Australia in India

[m_vaughan]

Thats why he is not even sure of a place in the side you are joking hogg is
not even half of murli

Clarke is also an idiot i remember australia loosing a match because he
said something to gayle i saw how gayle went after him he was like smallboy
crying:crying





Lets see after some years if this average swing bowler is not the best bowler in the world.

Lee is no great ,tait i have seen him few times in new zealand where
the ball was swinging out of the ground,still he is improving i meant a genuine outswing bowler specially if they have to retain the ashes in england where its swings a lot

also i saw a article on cricinfo about symonds sobbing to the media



come on, kiwi side shane bond has lost pace and they have a weak bowling line up
R.p singh is the most improved bowler in the last few months the swing he got in england was amazing and he bowls at decent pace too.he is way better than the 2nd quickie kiwi have,also look at his odi stats its pretty impressive considering he bowls in subcontinent,if they wont make the kiwi side i think its their problem not rp singhs problem or sreesanth problems ,they both have bright futures as do your young bowlers .

Brett Lee is definately one of the finest bowlers in the world today. Randomly quoting some of his few bad games doesnt make him a poor player.

I agree about the Kiwi pace attack not being that great apart from Shane Bond. But then their second option onwards usually tend to be all rounders. So any fast bowler who wants to get into the side would have to be competing with Shane Bond only.

However like someone said, Sreesanth and RP Singh are the best India have at the moment, so it makes complete sense to stick to them.

 

[smssia0112]

clark is overrated he is cannon fodder in sub continent i remember how he was treated by the bangladesi batsman in bangladesh and he is no mcgrath.

yes he is better than them

Along with anderson i think he is the only genuine outswing bowler in the world and and bowls around 90 miles per hour so he has potential to be alot better than clark and hogg is a spinner i think and i have never never seen hilfenhaus to comment on him,allthough johnson is the best prospect for australia and has potential to be a world class bowler.

That shows how little you know about Australian cricket. Johnson is young and promising but Clark and Bracken are miles ahead of him, as are Hogg and Lee who are more established. You barely know who Hogg is so stop commenting about him.

Look at pollock now and mcgrath is of different class do not compare

Look he has struggled on flat pitches he is not the same bowler as mcgrath
as he can be unsettled unlike mcgrath and mcgrath was bowling above 140 when he came in.

what i saw of him he is bowling in the mid 120's

So what if he is slow (he bowls 130's mostly anyway), he is taking wickets and is very accurate. He is playing very well and is very similar to McGrath. As for Pollock, he is one of the best pace bowlers ever just like McGrath is.

england are no 2 basically due to thier bowling line up ,except K.P And vaughan who are world class the rest are not up to the mark .I saw them in the india england series they did not look world class even at home.

south africa are ranked no 5 mate and are one of the worst test sides they
were on the brink of losing a series at home to india.they lack variety in bowling and can,t play the swinging ball,except kallis there batsman are suited to odi cricket look at ab de villiers
and gibbs they have huge technical problems.

When we played South Africa we were away and that was back when they were highly rated. Before they nearly (so close yet so far India) lost to India at home.

[QUPTE=cricket_god]Is he been considered for a test call up after warnes retirement?
or macgill is the first choice and any young spinners coming through?[/QUOTE]Not really, he is a OD specialist, he's too straight and not enough of a wicket taker in the longest form of the game. Australia has no 'first choice' because we haven't announced a squad yet since Warne retired have we? Our yong spinners include Nathan Hauritz, Beau Casson, Dan Cullen, Cullen Bailey and even Cameron White even though he's more of a batsman.

Thats why he is not even sure of a place in the side you are joking hogg is
not even half of murli

Comparing him to Murali is irrelevant. Hogg is a great ODI bowler, has nothing to do with Murali who doesn't play for India by the way.

Lets see after some years if this average swing bowler is not the best bowler in the world.

Who? Clark isn't a swing bowler so that's just a stupid comment.

Lee is still no great specially in test cricket he has a few years still to prove that ,tait i have seen him few times in new zealand where
the ball was swinging out of the ground,still he is improving, i meant a genuine outswing bowler specially if they have to retain the ashes in england where its swings a lot even if he is no good like ben

Australia has swinging bowlers, we just listed them for you, they can swing it out. As for Lee, he may be innacurate but he's getting enough results to make him better that 'still no great.'

I think he is the perfect replacement for Warnie than Mcgill

Not really, as I said, Hogg is a OD specialist. He wouldn't make it as a test bowler.

Harbhajan accuses Aussies of vulgarity
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/indvaus/content/current/story/313550.html

Well, I knew there would be something to it that is making these guys do things that they're not expected to do (not including Sreesanth in this, he does it most often).

I laughed when I read this in The Age, honestly I've never seen such a whinge. The Indians were happy to talk the talk but when it got serious suddenly Australia are bullies. If anyone wants to beat Australia, this is exactly how not to do it. You have to be tough, tough teams win tough games. Sledging is part of the game, comments like this will just fire up the Aussies more.

 

[Cricket_god]

That shows how little you know about Australian cricket. Johnson is young and promising but Clark and Bracken are miles ahead of him, as are Hogg and Lee who are more established. You barely know who Hogg is so stop commenting about him.

So what if he is slow (he bowls 130's mostly anyway), he is taking wickets and is very accurate. He is playing very well and is very similar to McGrath. As for Pollock, he is one of the best pace bowlers ever just like McGrath is.



When we played South Africa we were away and that was back when they were highly rated. Before they nearly (so close yet so far India) lost to India at home.

[QUPTE=cricket_god]Is he been considered for a test call up after warnes retirement?
or macgill is the first choice and any young spinners coming through?

Not really, he is a OD specialist, he's too straight and not enough of a wicket taker in the longest form of the game. Australia has no 'first choice' because we haven't announced a squad yet since Warne retired have we? Our yong spinners include Nathan Hauritz, Beau Casson, Dan Cullen, Cullen Bailey and even Cameron White even though he's more of a batsman.

Comparing him to Murali is irrelevant. Hogg is a great ODI bowler, has nothing to do with Murali who doesn't play for India by the way.

Who? Clark isn't a swing bowler so that's just a stupid comment.

Australia has swinging bowlers, we just listed them for you, they can swing it out. As for Lee, he may be innacurate but he's getting enough results to make him better that 'still no great.'

Not really, as I said, Hogg is a OD specialist. He wouldn't make it as a test bowler.

I laughed when I read this in The Age, honestly I've never seen such a whinge. The Indians were happy to talk the talk but when it got serious suddenly Australia are bullies. If anyone wants to beat Australia, this is exactly how not to do it. You have to be tough, tough teams win tough games. Sledging is part of the game, comments like this will just fire up the Aussies more.[/QUOTE]

I have watched hogg for years so i know quite a bit about him being a bowler
his captains don't have confidence to play he may be a good bowler but is no big deal also ,i said johnson has potential to be much better than the current crop of australian bowlers its my view i don't need you to tell me my judjement

I admit he is a good bowler but he has just played 2 seasons and people comparing him to mcgrath thats what don't like also my view is he is nowhere near mcgrath

India were away too it was the same team i think

I was talking about sreesanth so its you who misunderstood so are you stupid?

Ben,hooper told me that ben hilfenhaus was the best outswing bowler dominating the circuit

Somebody called him the best spinner in odi so thats what my comment was
and good is the word not great .

ALso have you read symonds comments and does you thoughts apply for australia also?if sledging means abusing families then i do not think much of it
remember how mcgrath reacted to sarwan it does hurt does not it ?

It should fire up the indians more.

A cricketer is a cricketer if he cant play test cricket he is ordinary according to me .

Brett Lee is definately one of the finest bowlers in the world today. Randomly quoting some of his few bad games doesnt make him a poor player.

I agree about the Kiwi pace attack not being that great apart from Shane Bond. But then their second option onwards usually tend to be all rounders. So any fast bowler who wants to get into the side would have to be competing with Shane Bond only.

However like someone said, Sreesanth and RP Singh are the best India have at the moment, so it makes complete sense to stick to them.

Read my post mate i did not quote lee performances but taits ,
i have said he is one of the finest odi bowlers

Shane bond is also not that greta now bowling in the 130's he does not l;ook the bowler he was ,R.p ,sree could walk in to the kiwi bowling according to me.

India have stick with them are they are both great prospects both are in there 20's

 

[Hooper]

Shane bond is also not that greta now bowling in the 130's he does not l;ook the bowler he was ,R.p ,sree could walk in to the kiwi bowling according to me.

Rightio, now I am sure you don't know Cricket outside India. Shane Bond isn't past it he still bowls in the 140s and sometimes reaches 150 and is surely World class bowler. What is your obsession with bowling speeds? You think any bowler who can't top 140 km/h is no good? Jeez

 

[Cricket_god]

Rightio, now I am sure you don't know Cricket outside India. Shane Bond isn't past it he still bowls in the 140s and sometimes reaches 150 and is surely World class bowler. What is your obsession with bowling speeds? You think any bowler who can't top 140 km/h is no good? Jeez

Which cricket are you watching lately?he was bowling in the 130's in the t20s
if you do not believe me just watch some boring highlights,i have seen him more ,I know a lot more than you about cricket outside india ,its you who needs to know a bit more about cricket outside australia if you had watched you would have known how much after injury he is struggling.

I am not obsessed with bowling speeds my point is is he struggling due to lack of pace ,i just can,t figure any other reason why shane bond is struggling when he still is swinging the ball,I never said any bowler who bowled below 140 was not good my point is when genuine fast bowlers like bond bowling in the high 140s drop pace there effectiviness comes down alarmingly

Coming to the next match

I think its going to be another high scoring one may be 350 as this pitch has very
even bounce.

Australia look set to play bracken,ponting
For India ganguly set to play

 

[manee]

When we played South Africa we were away and that was back when they were highly rated. Before they nearly (so close yet so far India) lost to India at home.

Damn Ashwell Prince to hell!

I think you will all agree that this thread is becoming a tad spammy, I think it is ok for now, just keep the personal insults to a minimum please.

 

[Will_NA]

Thats why he is not even sure of a place in the side you are joking hogg is
not even half of murli

Clarke is also an idiot i remember australia loosing a match because he
said something to gayle i saw how gayle went after him he was like smallboy
crying:crying

Two points. not many people have half the talent of Murali and secondly, you are mistaking Michael Clarke for Stuart Clark.

And please use proper sentences. It's harder to read it when they carry on into a new line for no reason

 

[SaiSrini]

I dont think either RP Singh or Sreesanth would make the current Kiwi or Australian side.

They are not to play for other countries. They are Indians. We got to see what is best for us. The pace is good, they bowl with much more control these days. If only Sreesanth can tone down his temper, he is our future fast bowler.

 

[Gilly Fan]

Going to be a very big summer ahead. So I'm gonna go to the Boxing day test with my mates.

I'll do some sledging of my own.

"This guy swings like a rusty gate"
"This guys got more blocks than legoland"
"This guys got more leaves than a tree"
"I've seen better hookers on StKilda street" (Melbournians will understand this one"

 

[Cricket_god]

Two points. not many people have half the talent of Murali and secondly, you are mistaking Michael Clarke for Stuart Clark.

And please use proper sentences. It's harder to read it when they carry on into a new line for no reason

I was talking about michael clarke not stuart clarke,it was michael clarke who made come vulgar comments to Harbhajan not stuart clark whom i have never seen having a word with the opposition.

i clearly stated clarke so you missed it.

 

[Will_NA]

Fair enough but it's Stuart Clark not Stuart Clarke

 

[Cricket_god]

Fair enough but it's Stuart Clark nor Stuart Clarke

oops

 

[Leggie]

Okay, who here (Indian) would prefer Pathan open the bowling?

Personally i feel Pathan, i feel he could cause all sorts of problems against Haydos who loves to drive through the V, and thats how Pathan gets his wickets - batsmen trying to drive him down the ground, any possibility of Zaheer coming on 1st change?, i know he's our main bowler, but Sreesanth would be nothing without swing, like Manee said a few posts ago.

 

[dikon]

I can't believe what Harbajhan said in my opinion the Aussies play the game hard and fair and in the right spirit.If anyone doesn't it's Harbajhan in the Twenty20 i saw i him various times send the batsman off and say vulgar words in one instance against South Africa i lip read him tell the batsman to F off when he got him out.

 

[Will_NA]

I wouldn't Australia play the game in the right spirit but Harbajan is rarely short of a few words. I remember on one occasion, he told KP to F Off when he dismissed him. He's no angel himself.