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[Cricket_god]

Not really, South African pitches don't have that much bounce, the SCG and to a lesser extent the Adelaide Oval have no seam or that much bounce and he still ripped through England.



He bowls in the mid 130s, that's sharp enough. How did Pollock, McGrath and other fast-mediums survive on slow, flat pitches? Accuracy and variation Clark has them both.



Well, England is the number 2 side in the world and South Africa is right up there as well, wouldn't be surprised if they were number 3. World Class? You call Kevin Pietersen, Jaques Kallis, Graeme Smith, Andrew Flintoff, Paul Collingwood, Herchelle Gibbs etc. not good enough batsman to show how good a bowler you are? Mate, they are the best of the best. If they aren't world class then who is?




He doesn't play regularly because Australia has a rotation policy with the bowlers and also, when Shane Watson isn't playing it makes it hard for him to fit in with the other 4 seamers.



He is a good young bowler who bowls at a decent pace (135+) and is a great swinger of the ball. He is generally an out-swinger who has dominated the 4 day domestic series here in Aus in the past year.

Look at pollock now and mcgrath is of different class do not compare

Look he has struggled on flat pitches he is not the same bowler as mcgrath
as he can be unsettled unlike mcgrath and mcgrath was bowling above 140 when he came in.

what i saw of him he is bowling in the mid 120's

england are no 2 basically due to thier bowling line up ,except K.P And vaughan who are world class the rest are not up to the mark .I saw them in the india england series they did not look world class even at home.

south africa are ranked no 5 mate and are one of the worst test sides they
were on the brink of losing a series at home to india.they lack variety in bowling and can,t play the swinging ball,except kallis there batsman are suited to odi cricket look at ab de villiers
and gibbs they have huge technical problems.

If he is good he should play as it adds variety to your bowling line up

I remember i saw him in some T20 Match in australia australia needs some
real swing bowlers.

Hogg doesn't get a game because our selectors are seemingly the people who know the least about cricket in Australia!

Is he been considered for a test call up after warnes retirement?
or macgill is the first choice and any young spinners coming through?

 

[Animator!]

MacGill fo so. He's been one of the best spinners of his generation. He's just had the genius of Warne ahead of him.

 

[Hooper]

In reply to Cricket_god;

Look at pollock now and mcgrath is of different class do not compare

Pollock is fine now, he is still a great bowler, McGrath was a legend, Clark was was fantastic in his shadow as the 3rd seamer, imagine if he can still be that good without McGrath there! There are no limits bar age that can stop him from being as effective as McGrath in the 5 day game.

Look he has struggled on flat pitches he is not the same bowler as mcgrath
as he can be unsettled unlike mcgrath and mcgrath was bowling above 140 when he came in.

When has Clark "strugggled" on flat pitches? Name one match! A Test but, because nowadays all ODI pitches are batsman pitches.

what i saw of him he is bowling in the mid 120's

He gets it up to 137 and anyways, McGrath bowled at that pace for the last 3 summers and he still dominated including that 8 for not many against Pakistan.

england are no 2 basically due to thier bowling line up ,except K.P And vaughan who are world class the rest are not up to the mark .I saw them in the india england series they did not look world class even at home.

Cricket is a game of both bat and ball, I dont think they could make it to number one just on their bowling. Their batsman have played their part. Collingwood, Bell, Cook have all been great IMO. I dont know what you think is "World Class"? Because if Bell and Cook aren't good batsman then I would hate to hear what you think of batsman such as Ashwell Prince, Ramnaresh Sarwan etc. I bet you all of Indians middle order is World Class of course.

south africa are ranked no 5 mate and are one of the worst test sides they
were on the brink of losing a series at home to india.they lack variety in bowling and can,t play the swinging ball,except kallis there batsman are suited to odi cricket look at ab de villiers
and gibbs they have huge technical problems.

Thats surprising, I didnt think they were that low. But they have a good batting line up full of stars so I would still say for Clark to bowl that damn good on debut overseas is just amazing.

If he is good he should play as it adds variety to your bowling line up

Yeah I know, but we always rotate our bowlers so he can't always get a spot in the side.

I remember i saw him in some T20 Match in australia australia needs some
real swing bowlers.

Swing bowlers? Do you watch Cricket? Nathan Bracken! He is the best ODI swing bowler I have seen play for Australia in ages, Brett Lee swings it in the right conditions, Hilfenhouse is a geniune swing bowler and Tait can get swing and even reverse! So I dont know where you pulled that one from...Only Stuey Clark is the other bowler who doesn't really move it.

Is he been considered for a test call up after warnes retirement?
or macgill is the first choice and any young spinners coming through?

Yes, considered. Don't think he will get it but. MacGill is first choice. Young spinners? We have some, not good enough to challenge MacGill for a Test birth as of yet.

 

[manee]

Here is a story related to the series:

New Delhi: The Indian selectors are all set to announce the Indian team after the third One-Dayer in Hyderabad. CNN-IBN has learnt that the Selectors are keen on a rotation policy for the three senior members of the Indian team: Sachin Tendulkar, Sourav Ganguly and Rahul Dravid for the rest of the season.

Source: http://www.cricketnext.com/news/big-three-to-be-rested-by-turns-in-odis/27276-13.html

Good news in my opinion.

 

[Animator!]

Im sorry but DE Villiers is going to be one of the players of his generation imo. With bat, Gloves and in the field. He's excellent all-round. He's 21/22, been pushed into the game early has had good success already, it has taken far more talented player years to sort out technical problems and your banging on about a guy who in international cricket can still be considered a Youngster and your saying just because he doesn't have absolutely everything right now, he's a poor player. Get a grip man. Seriously.

He just has a vunerability to the away swinging ball outside the off stump. What a shock, a vunerability to a ball that's uncommon in South African cricket. Jesus, it's like asking an 18 year old English kid to go India and smahs Kumble, Powar, Chawla about on tracks that turn a country mile.

 

[King Cricket]

My lineup

Sachin
Sourav
Uthappa
Yubraj
Dhoni
Dravid
Rohit
Irfan
Harbhajan
Sreesanth
Zaheer

 

[Leggie]

Here is a story related to the series:



Source: http://www.cricketnext.com/news/big-three-to-be-rested-by-turns-in-odis/27276-13.html

Good news in my opinion.

yes!, we might win a match now!

My lineup would be:

1) Sachin Tendulkar
2) Robin Uthappa
3) Rahul Dravid
4) Yuvraj Singh
3) Sourav Ganguly
6) Rohit Sharma
7) Mahendra Dhoni
8) Irfan Pathan
9) Harbhajan Singh
10) Zaheer Khan
11) Shantakumaran Sreesanth/RP Singh

And i wanna see Pathan open the bowling for god sake!, we all saw how much swing he got to dismiss Haydos, so imagine what he can do with the new ball, well we dont have to imagine, we already know what he's done in the past...

 

[manee]

yes!, we might win a match now!

My lineup would be:

1) Sachin Tendulkar
2) Robin Uthappa
3) Rahul Dravid
4) Yuvraj Singh
3) Sourav Ganguly
6) Rohit Sharma
7) Mahendra Dhoni
8) Irfan Pathan
9) Harbhajan Singh
10) Zaheer Khan
11) Shantakumaran Sreesanth/RP Singh

And i wanna see Pathan open the bowling for god sake!, we all saw how much swing he got to dismiss Haydos, so imagine what he can do with the new ball, well we dont have to imagine, we already know what he's done in the past...

Interesting counting system

I like that team but would have Sreesanth in for RP Singh all the time as the wicket taking option; if he cut down on the wides, his economy would be respectable too and I feel he can do that.

I like your idea of Irfan Pathan at eight but who will the fifth bowler be? It is certainly a tough conundrum.

Pathan will no doubt be effective with the new ball but then you are exposing someone like Sreesanth to have to bowl in the middle overs and without his swing and slips, he will just go for runs and not take wickets.

If India had two spinners with five bowlers then they could do:

First 20: 3 seamers in rotation (on average, 6-7 each)
Next 20: 2 spinners with a part timer to help in the event of one getting hit.
Last 10: 3 seamers bowling their remaining 10 overs

But that just never works does it since one pacer always gets hit resulting in him getting taken off resulting in a part timer or spinner having to come on earlier...etc...

Good in theory though.

 

[Left_Hander]

Hogg doesn't get a game because our selectors are seemingly the people who know the least about cricket in Australia!

He is a great one day spin bowler. Inspires me because I am a left-handed spinner. Plus his endless energy would just have to motivate you to help your team.

He should be given a go in Test Cricket and he is a handy lower order batsmen.

 

[WORLD CHAMPIONS]

He is a great one day spin bowler. Inspires me because I am a left-handed spinner. Plus his endless energy would just have to motivate you to help your team.

He should be given a go in Test Cricket and he is a handy lower order batsmen.

I think he is the perfect replacement for Warnie than Mcgill

 

[SaiSrini]

Although the first bit is right, Symonds should not assault Sreesanth in a pub because the whole point is that it is banter during a match and nothing more. Once the game is over, it all stops.

May be those guys just take it too seriously to show off their stuff outside the field.

Yeah but after Symonds' hits him for a four or a six he should go up and start sledging him & intimidating him like what the West Indies bowled did to batsman back in the day, only the roles are reversed.

How long would it be before Sreesanth sneaks one more in through Symonds and makes a fool out of him?

The way Sreesanth behaves, it might look over the top to some (to even Indian fans) but I feel he is really that sort of a guy and he is not doing it for theatrics.

First bit, Bahaha!



Second bit, yeah, but first teach him how to bowl. I wouldn't mind it if he could bowl well, but he is rubbish so him carrying on just makes him look like a tool.

Sreesanth has been India's highest wicket taker in the two games played so far (with 3 wickets apiece in each game). And ask Symonds to try not getting out to Sreesanth's slower one next time. It has been two out two so far.

Here is a story related to the series:

Source: http://www.cricketnext.com/news/big-three-to-be-rested-by-turns-in-odis/27276-13.html

Good news in my opinion.

Sachin is said to be the first in line to be rested unless he comes up with a special knock in Hyderabad (which he is capable of doing). I would go for Saurav to rest for a long duration of time and resting between Sachin and Dravid for every game. This way, we have only one senior. Thats more than enough.

I guess Sehwag will earn a recall. Who else do we have? May be Kaif. He scored a 98 recently against South Africa A to win the game by 1 run or so. India should bring back Yousuf Pathan in place of Ramesh Powar. Allrounder plus spin bowler (not a specialist, but I doubt if he would bowl too worse than what Powar has been bowling).

 

[Hooper]

saisrini80

Sreesanth has been India's highest wicket taker in the two games played so far (with 3 wickets apiece in each game). And ask Symonds to try not getting out to Sreesanth's slower one next time. It has been two out two so far.

Yeah, at how many runs? He has taken a bit of stick. Well, ask Sreenath to get him out earlier rather then getting him out for a dominant 87.

 

[sohum]

Yeah, at how many runs? He has taken a bit of stick. Well, ask Sreenath to get him out earlier rather then getting him out for a dominant 87.

Srinath is a match referee now--he doesn't play anymore.

 

[SaiSrini]

Srinath is a match referee now--he doesn't play anymore.

Have to spread my reputation before giving it to you again

Harbhajan accuses Aussies of vulgarity
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/indvaus/content/current/story/313550.html

Well, I knew there would be something to it that is making these guys do things that they're not expected to do (not including Sreesanth in this, he does it most often).

 

[Hooper]

Srinath is a match referee now--he doesn't play anymore.

Oh we have a comedian in the building everyone...

..You had to say that because you know that what I said was true.