Australia vs England ODI Series - 7 matches - Sep 4 to Sep 20

[Covvy]

Is anybody gonna care about this series, even if England lose, they won't care.

 

[Hooper]

What's our squad for this? Is it just the test squad? Crap if it is. Ferguson and Warner better be over. Hopefully Binga can fire. But I doubt I'll be watching this. D/N games will start at 11pm just as I'm going to bed. Unless it's on the weekend. But I can't see myself staying up till 7am to watch ODIs even though I did it for the Windies tour last year. :o

 

[Covvy]

How many matches are day/night games?

Edit: don't worry

 

[Howsie]

It hasn't, but it shows he's capable of opening the batting, against top quality bowling in limited overs cricket.

Can't say I'd agree with that.

 

[Punk_Sk8r]

All the Aussies seem to be saying they don't care etc, thing is if you win you probably will be at least a bit proud.

I remember when we lost the Ashes down under and we won the ODI series, it put a big smile on my face and felt really good. Don't know if this series will have the same aura as it's not a tri-series or anything I don't think.

 

[Will_NA]

I think we'll be celebrating at the end of the Series, whether or not we win it, just to piss off the Aussies and show who really won this tour.

I'm looking forward to seeing our batsmen perform under no pressure whatsoever. We may even see a six from our team but that might be too optimistic.

 

[Howsie]

All the Aussies seem to be saying they don't care etc, thing is if you win you probably will be at least a bit proud.

I remember when we lost the Ashes down under and we won the ODI series, it put a big smile on my face and felt really good. Don't know if this series will have the same aura as it's not a tri-series or anything I don't think.

Wasn't Bangladesh part of that tri-series.

 

[Hooper]

All the Aussies seem to be saying they don't care etc, thing is if you win you probably will be at least a bit proud.

I remember when we lost the Ashes down under and we won the ODI series, it put a big smile on my face and felt really good. Don't know if this series will have the same aura as it's not a tri-series or anything I don't think.

I care, One Day Cricket is still good, it still means something.

I will be gutted if we lose this series...

Hooper added 2 Minutes and 19 Seconds later...

Wasn't Bangladesh part of that tri-series.

New Zealand.

 

[Howsie]

Hooper added 2 Minutes and 19 Seconds later...


New Zealand.

Oops. I was thinking of 2005.

 

[Cricketman]

Unfortunately for the Aussies I think their ODI team is worse than their test one.

 

[Leicester Fox]

England will get dicked on, doubt we will be able to get up for this. The only man who is standing in Australias way is Trott. Which means the only men standing in Englands way are the selectors.

 

[Howsie]

Unfortunately for the Aussies I think their ODI team is worse than their test one.

Could be said for both teams tbh. England and Australia's ODI teams are a lot weaker then their test team.

 

[Sureshot]

I think we've got a decent chance here. I think Trott has to play, he's a good player.

 

[BDJIM]

my ideal team for England would be

Strauss (c)
Denly
Prior (wk)
Trott
Collingwood
Shah
Broad
Rashid
Swann
Anderson
Sidebottom

 

[angryangy]

I think we've got a decent chance here. I think Trott has to play, he's a good player.

If the things I'm hearing are true, then I'd agree. England might be a weak ODI side, but Australia don't appear to be getting stronger.

If Ponting is going to miss some of the ODIs then the initial XI is likely to be

Shane Watson
Tim Paine (wk)
Michael Clarke (c)
Michael Hussey
Callum Ferguson
Cameron White
James Hopes
Mitchell Johnson
Brett Lee
Nathan Hauritz
Nathan Bracken

Haddin is all but ruled out of the series due to that broken finger and Syl's concerns about a lack of youth are possibly unfounded. There are one or two too many young names; albeit, not excessively young; in that side for my liking.

A lot of pundits are sick of Cameron White, but he's still only days from 26, younger than Hilfenhaus. Siddle and Ferguson are 24, while the wicketkeeper Paine, who admittedly might not pass for 18 without ID, is also 24.

From what I've seen, Bracken is circling the drain even faster than Stuart Clark, but he's also likely to be preferred over Siddle and Hilfenhaus. Siddle to me seems like the more ideal ODI player, able to generate extra pace and coax mishits, but Hilfy might be a very good option if used exclusively as a new ball bowler. It might fall to Lee to become an exclusively old ball bowler, as death bowling needs a cool head.

Even the lone specialist spinner might not get the first gig, as the slightest hint of a pitch having anything in it for pacemen means the selectors will pick half a dozen seam bowlers.

The questions are mostly in the batting. That's generally the area where teams have an advantage over England and if they get into the habit of losing wickets, it will be a lost advantage. Players like Watson, Clarke and Hussey will need to be the heroes, but players like Paine, Ferguson and White will need to prove themeselves by batting sensibly rather than trying to grab a headline.