Australian Tour of India, October 2010/11

[yashwanth kumar]

India to face a WHITEWASH against Aussie's :P :laugh

 

[War]

In test matches I can't see that happening.
Yeah Sehwag and Gauti have some troubles with the short pith stuff but they both plays with supreme responsibilty in Test matches atleast. It's not that India's short pitch woes are recent, it has been targeted on India since late 2008 and in test atleast India have no problems I would say. Their Recent performances shows this.

Indian batsmen weakness againts short-pitched bowling is a historical problem that opposition bowlers always target. So i'm no sure what you are trying to say by the problem has "been targeted since late 2008" only.

Since Gambhir became a fixture in the Indian team vs SRI 2008. The only time he faced a quality pace attack was vs South Africa recently. Morne Morkel exposed a technical flaw that he has short pitch bowling. While he does't seem to know where his off-stump is when bowlers come around the wicket. Such flaws AUS pace attack can very well & expose.

Sehwag is pretty poor againts the short ball. I dont recall ever seeing Sehwag pull quality fast bowlers well at all. In Indian conditions on those slow pitches, such a line of attack may not get him out (since he is dynamic on Indian pitches these days). But the AUS quicks can expose Sehwag''s long standing weakness towards inswingers.

The fab 3 are just perfect.

Have you ever seen those 3 guys playing in cricket, Those three are way too talented and I couldn't even find any technical flaw in thier batting. They are all technically strong.

I have never questioned whether Dravid/Tendy/Laxman are good againts short pitched bowling or quality pace in general. Its the other members of the Indian top 7 that are vulnerable.

 

[SaiSrini]

Sehwag and Gambhir can face the short ball and do well against it in tests (and ODI's to a good extent). Its just that they face a problem in T20 cricket where they have to force the pace of the game almost every ball and they have to try different ways of scoring almost every ball and so they try ungainly shots to short pitched deliveries and get out. Give them more time out there against short pitched bowling and they will not be flustered at all. Its the pace of the game mixed with the short pitched bowling that troubles India's batsmen. I am sure they will soon find a solution for that too.

 

[AkshayS]

Indian batsmen weakness againts short-pitched bowling is a historical problem that opposition bowlers always target. So i'm no sure what you are trying to say by the problem has "been targeted since late 2008" only.

Since Gambhir became a fixture in the Indian team vs SRI 2008. The only time he faced a quality pace attack was vs South Africa recently. Morne Morkel exposed a technical flaw that he has short pitch bowling. While he does't seem to know where his off-stump is when bowlers come around the wicket. Such flaws AUS pace attack can very well & expose.

Sehwag is pretty poor againts the short ball. I dont recall ever seeing Sehwag pull quality fast bowlers well at all. In Indian conditions on those slow pitches, such a line of attack may not get him out (since he is dynamic on Indian pitches these days). But the AUS quicks can expose Sehwag''s long standing weakness towards inswingers.




I have never questioned whether Dravid/Tendy/Laxman are good againts short pitched bowling or quality pace in general. Its the other members of the Indian top 7 that are vulnerable.

Sehwag and Gambhir don't have those problems against short pitch stuff in tests. It's just the T20's. you have to hit the ball and many batsmen failed at it not just Indians.

In test, if you're going to bowl a quick Short-pitch ball to Sehwag, he doesn't have to hit it like T20, he'll just leave it or defend it.

Excluding Indian pitches whom many think that are worse for bowler, Gambhir has performed in NZ and SA too.

 

[War]

Sehwag and Gambhir can face the short ball and do well against it in tests (and ODI's to a good extent). Its just that they face a problem in T20 cricket where they have to force the pace of the game almost every ball and they have to try different ways of scoring almost every ball and so they try ungainly shots to short pitched deliveries and get out. Give them more time out there against short pitched bowling and they will not be flustered at all. Its the pace of the game mixed with the short pitched bowling that troubles India's batsmen. I am sure they will soon find a solution for that too.

Sehwag and Gambhir don't have those problems against short pitch stuff in tests. It's just the T20's. you have to hit the ball and many batsmen failed at it not just Indians.

In test, if you're going to bowl a quick Short-pitch ball to Sehwag, he doesn't have to hit it like T20, he'll just leave it or defend it.

I dont know what you too have been watching over the years. Sehwag doesn't play the pull shot in tests because he gets into trouble playing it. As i said that a clear weakness of his along with inswinging deliveries (given his lack of footwork) that was exposed by:

- Bond in NZ 2002

- vs AUS in IND 04

- Sten/Ntini in SA 05/06

- Hoggard vs ENG 05/06

- Asif in the Karachi 06 test

- Taylor @ Kingston 06

- Steyn/Ntini in IND 08

Plus on many occassions i have seen in ODIs vs AUS. That technical flaw to inswingers has been exposed by Lee, McGrath etc...

The point about having to force to pace in T20s is true. But it doesn't overide the historical fact that Indian batsmen in test always are vulnerable to short-pitched bowling & outside the veteran trio - they entire Indian top 7 is vulnerable to such bowling.

Excluding Indian pitches whom many think that are worse for bowler, Gambhir has performed in NZ and SA too.

Gambhir performed againts NZ on flat pitches againts a poor pace attack. Gambhir has never played a test series in SA.

As i said before. Since Gambhir has been a fixture in the IND test team during the SRI tour in mid 2008. He has yet to facy a quality pace attack whether home or away. He has just been smashing joke attacks on roads - just like Wsim Jaffer before him (but Jaffer ended up failing vs AUS 07/08)

The recent series vs SA. Was the first time & certain technical flaws where clearly exposed. So i dont see where the basis is coming from where you guys are so confident in Gambhir's ability againts quality pace. The jury very clearly is still out on him.

 

[Robelinda]

Spot on War, Sehwag's clear weaknesses are plain for all to see, and have been brutally obvious for his whole career.

 

[P Squared]

this series is going to be a draw

but exciting

 

[aditya123]

Spot on War, Sehwag's clear weaknesses are plain for all to see, and have been brutally obvious for his whole career.

Thats the beauty with Sehwag`s batting. He is quick to pounce on the opposition before they do and is good at playing around his weaknesses. Noone ever claimed that Sehwag is technically on par with Sachin or Dravid but the point is that he still gets you runs which is why I sometimes wonder is technique is more of an obsession with the ones following the sport. I don`t think you could point out many players in the current era apart from a couple who are technically really good.

 

[Robelinda]

Finally settled.

India v Australia 2010: Australia agree to India Test proposal | India Cricket News | Cricinfo.com

 

[Amar791849]

i may have a try to go for visakhapatnam and watch the match

 

[Prithvi]

Damn, why at Vizag?
Hyderabad is always better venue in all aspects than Vizag.

BTW, we have final match against New Zealand at Hyderabad:banana2.

 

[SaiSrini]

Finally settled.

India v Australia 2010: Australia agree to India Test proposal | India Cricket News | Cricinfo.com

Hope its not the BG trophy, but something else. Bangalore as a test venue is good, but I am not sure how the Mohali crowd will turn up for this. Hope the wicket is atleast the usual Mohali style 'hard and bouncy'.

Two tests vs Australia is always exciting. Hope Australia play it with full passion. After all, they have to be ready for the Ashes and they dont want to go into the Ashes with a lost series against India.

 

[Robelinda]

I give us no chance at all. England will be happy.

 

[SaiSrini]

I give us no chance at all. England will be happy.

On the contrary, I feel Australia could sneak away with a 1-0 win. They have generally been lucky at Bangalore when they play tests there and Mohali, if it plays true to its reputation, will suit them well than India.

 

[Robelinda]

I highly doubt India will prepare pitches remotely in favour of our type of play.