Best 5 Batsmen ever

Statistically and based on certain scientific calculations here is the list of top 20 TEST batsmen of all time.(as previously ODIs were not that frequent as they are now)Quiet a few surprises!

Top 20 Test Batsmen of all time : All : as at 23/08/2005 - Upto Test # 1760
(Qualification: Minimum 2000 test runs)

No Player Cty RtgPts InsIdx AvgIdx RPTIdx RunIdx S/RIdx HSIdx BhsIdx %TSIdx WinIdx

Maximum weightage 100.00 66.67 8.00 2.00 10.00 5.00 2.50 1.33 2.50 2.00

1.Bradman D.G Aus 84.87 59.90 8.00 1.79 5.60 2.96 1.86 1.11 2.50 1.15
2.Lara B.C Win 66.08 42.78 4.33 1.23 8.65 3.56 1.74 1.33 1.92 0.55
3.Richards I.V.A Win 61.09 41.00 4.02 0.94 6.83 3.32 1.47 0.97 1.50 1.04
4.Hobbs J.B Eng 59.51 41.70 4.56 1.18 4.33 2.87 1.43 0.70 1.82 0.92
5.Dravid R Ind 58.82 39.56 4.63 1.15 6.16 2.52 1.60 0.90 1.67 0.63
6.Tendulkar S.R Ind 58.72 37.07 4.58 1.10 8.11 3.26 1.53 0.82 1.64 0.62
7.Sobers G.St.A Win 58.48 38.46 4.62 1.15 6.43 2.85 1.51 1.21 1.58 0.67
8.Barrington K.F Eng 58.23 39.78 4.69 1.11 5.44 2.52 1.38 0.85 1.70 0.76
9.Ponting R.T Aus 58.19 38.24 4.48 1.06 5.78 3.52 1.50 0.85 1.40 1.36
10.Chappell G.S Aus 57.87 39.09 4.31 1.09 5.69 2.96 1.44 0.82 1.58 0.87
11.Gavaskar S.M Ind 57.51 37.20 4.09 1.08 8.10 2.81 1.41 0.78 1.67 0.37
12.EdeC Weekes Win 57.46 40.48 4.69 1.24 3.56 2.86 1.50 0.69 1.77 0.67
13.Hayden M.L Aus 57.37 38.18 4.16 1.12 4.70 3.70 1.44 1.26 1.44 1.37
14.Inzamam-ul-Haq Pak 57.27 38.02 4.06 1.01 6.10 3.20 1.41 1.09 1.53 0.85
15.Border A.R Aus 57.14 36.48 4.04 0.96 8.94 2.63 1.33 0.68 1.44 0.64
16.Hutton L Eng 56.93 37.96 4.53 1.18 5.58 2.40 1.56 1.21 1.83 0.68
17.Sehwag V Ind 56.76 39.13 4.48 1.21 2.46 4.36 1.68 1.03 1.71 0.71
18.Headley G.A Win 56.43 40.90 4.87 1.33 1.75 2.59 1.48 0.90 2.16 0.45
19.Kallis J.H Saf 56.41 37.89 4.55 1.05 5.87 2.57 1.38 0.63 1.52 0.95
20.Walcott C.L Win 56.34 40.50 4.53 1.15 3.04 2.90 1.33 0.73 1.61 0.55

Some observations :

As already mentioned Bradman, leading in 5 of the measures, is not a surprise at the top. He is so far ahead of the second best that it is safe to say that he will be No.1 forever. His batting exploits can only be compared to the domination of Nicklaus and Pele in other sports.

Lara at second place should have few dissenters. He has played more great innings than any other player in history (at last count 5 in the top 20 : 153*/214/400/375/277). He scores quickly and often compiles huge innings. 2 300s and 7 200s are proof of this. He is, arguably, the greatest modern player and deserves his place as the "best amongst the second bests".

Richards' position is again a well-deserved one. He was in a much stronger West indies lineup than Lara. This has its advantages and disadvantages for an individual player. However the total domination he exercised over the bowlers is probably matched by Gilchrist today.

Hobbs is, in the opinion of many, the greatest opener who ever played. Gavaskar runs him close. However Hobbs played most of his cricket against better quality opponents and on more difficult pitches.

There have been comparisons between Lara and Tendulkar as to who is the greatest modern batsman. This position of Dravid, at No.5, ahead of Tendulkar should settle this argument once and for all. Tendulkar is not even India's best batsman, leave alone the world's best. Dravid's performances outside India are possibly amongst the best by any batsman away from home. In Rawalpindi, Adelaide, Calcutta and Headingley, Dravid showcased his outstanding batsmanship, against top quality bowlers.

Tendulkar, Sobers, Barrington, Ponting and Greg Chappell complete the illustrious group of Top ten. Ponting, with his landmark innings at Manchester, has just moved into the Top 10, at the expense of Gavaskar.

It is of interest to note that Gilchrist, despite a primary wicket-keeper responsibility and almost always batting at No.7, was in the Top 20 in the all-time list, but has just moved out because of his indifferent current batting form. Sehwag, with his collection of high quality innings around the world, is also in the Top 20.

Source: http://www.thirdslip.com/2005/aug/tst-topbat.shtm




Though my personal selection is :
1.Sir Donald Bradman
2.Brian Lara
3.Sachin Tendulkar
4.Viv Richards
5.W.G.Grace/Clive Lloyds
 
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Anyone read the article in CricInfos march edition?

based on their statistical analysis, Hayden is the best of current batsman. Thoughts?
 
1. Bradman (well, duh)
The following are in no particular order:
Sobers
Tendulkar
Richards
Hobbs
Lara/Gavaskar (for joint 6th place)

Of those who've played in the last 15 years or so: (in no particular order)
Tendulkar
Lara
Ponting
Inzamam
Dravid

newzolt said:
Statistically and based on certain scientific calculations here is the list of top 20 TEST batsmen of all time.(as previously ODIs were not that frequent as they are now)Quiet a few surprises!

Top 20 Test Batsmen of all time : All : as at 23/08/2005 - Upto Test # 1760
(Qualification: Minimum 2000 test runs)

No Player Cty RtgPts InsIdx AvgIdx RPTIdx RunIdx S/RIdx HSIdx BhsIdx %TSIdx WinIdx

Maximum weightage 100.00 66.67 8.00 2.00 10.00 5.00 2.50 1.33 2.50 2.00

1.Bradman D.G Aus 84.87 59.90 8.00 1.79 5.60 2.96 1.86 1.11 2.50 1.15
2.Lara B.C Win 66.08 42.78 4.33 1.23 8.65 3.56 1.74 1.33 1.92 0.55
3.Richards I.V.A Win 61.09 41.00 4.02 0.94 6.83 3.32 1.47 0.97 1.50 1.04
4.Hobbs J.B Eng 59.51 41.70 4.56 1.18 4.33 2.87 1.43 0.70 1.82 0.92
5.Dravid R Ind 58.82 39.56 4.63 1.15 6.16 2.52 1.60 0.90 1.67 0.63
6.Tendulkar S.R Ind 58.72 37.07 4.58 1.10 8.11 3.26 1.53 0.82 1.64 0.62
7.Sobers G.St.A Win 58.48 38.46 4.62 1.15 6.43 2.85 1.51 1.21 1.58 0.67
8.Barrington K.F Eng 58.23 39.78 4.69 1.11 5.44 2.52 1.38 0.85 1.70 0.76
9.Ponting R.T Aus 58.19 38.24 4.48 1.06 5.78 3.52 1.50 0.85 1.40 1.36
10.Chappell G.S Aus 57.87 39.09 4.31 1.09 5.69 2.96 1.44 0.82 1.58 0.87
11.Gavaskar S.M Ind 57.51 37.20 4.09 1.08 8.10 2.81 1.41 0.78 1.67 0.37
12.EdeC Weekes Win 57.46 40.48 4.69 1.24 3.56 2.86 1.50 0.69 1.77 0.67
13.Hayden M.L Aus 57.37 38.18 4.16 1.12 4.70 3.70 1.44 1.26 1.44 1.37
14.Inzamam-ul-Haq Pak 57.27 38.02 4.06 1.01 6.10 3.20 1.41 1.09 1.53 0.85
15.Border A.R Aus 57.14 36.48 4.04 0.96 8.94 2.63 1.33 0.68 1.44 0.64
16.Hutton L Eng 56.93 37.96 4.53 1.18 5.58 2.40 1.56 1.21 1.83 0.68
17.Sehwag V Ind 56.76 39.13 4.48 1.21 2.46 4.36 1.68 1.03 1.71 0.71
18.Headley G.A Win 56.43 40.90 4.87 1.33 1.75 2.59 1.48 0.90 2.16 0.45
19.Kallis J.H Saf 56.41 37.89 4.55 1.05 5.87 2.57 1.38 0.63 1.52 0.95
20.Walcott C.L Win 56.34 40.50 4.53 1.15 3.04 2.90 1.33 0.73 1.61 0.55

Some observations :

As already mentioned Bradman, leading in 5 of the measures, is not a surprise at the top. He is so far ahead of the second best that it is safe to say that he will be No.1 forever. His batting exploits can only be compared to the domination of Nicklaus and Pele in other sports.

Lara at second place should have few dissenters. He has played more great innings than any other player in history (at last count 5 in the top 20 : 153*/214/400/375/277). He scores quickly and often compiles huge innings. 2 300s and 7 200s are proof of this. He is, arguably, the greatest modern player and deserves his place as the "best amongst the second bests".

Richards' position is again a well-deserved one. He was in a much stronger West indies lineup than Lara. This has its advantages and disadvantages for an individual player. However the total domination he exercised over the bowlers is probably matched by Gilchrist today.

Hobbs is, in the opinion of many, the greatest opener who ever played. Gavaskar runs him close. However Hobbs played most of his cricket against better quality opponents and on more difficult pitches.

There have been comparisons between Lara and Tendulkar as to who is the greatest modern batsman. This position of Dravid, at No.5, ahead of Tendulkar should settle this argument once and for all. Tendulkar is not even India's best batsman, leave alone the world's best. Dravid's performances outside India are possibly amongst the best by any batsman away from home. In Rawalpindi, Adelaide, Calcutta and Headingley, Dravid showcased his outstanding batsmanship, against top quality bowlers.

Tendulkar, Sobers, Barrington, Ponting and Greg Chappell complete the illustrious group of Top ten. Ponting, with his landmark innings at Manchester, has just moved into the Top 10, at the expense of Gavaskar.

It is of interest to note that Gilchrist, despite a primary wicket-keeper responsibility and almost always batting at No.7, was in the Top 20 in the all-time list, but has just moved out because of his indifferent current batting form. Sehwag, with his collection of high quality innings around the world, is also in the Top 20.

Source: http://www.thirdslip.com/2005/aug/tst-topbat.shtm
Sehwag's made it to the TOP 20 TEST BATSMAN OF ALL TIME ? lol. He *MAY* make that list in the future, but currently there is no way in hell that he can be included. This list seems to me to be highly dubious, made by the types who base their selection more on current form(for those playing today) and illustrious name (for players of the past) than anything else. Their 'scientific calculations' reek of the science of stupidity and nothing else.
 
Ponting averages 12 in India.

Ponting agaisnt class bowling (England) struggled and was found out.


Sachin is the much better batsman, so to Lara.

Please dont put them in the same sentence.
 
F/D said:
Ponting averages 12 in India.

Ponting agaisnt class bowling (England) struggled and was found out.


Sachin is the much better batsman, so to Lara.

Please dont put them in the same sentence.
Haha, gee, you wouln't want to make it obvious your from India :rolleyes:
 
F/D said:
Ponting averages 12 in India.

Ponting agaisnt class bowling (England) struggled and was found out.


Sachin is the much better batsman, so to Lara.

Please dont put them in the same sentence.


Honestly I think Dravid is better than the lot of them.

You just can't bowl to Dravid, he has NO weakness.
 
He's just not quite as flashy as some of the other chaps, so doesn't really get anywhere near the plaudits that he should. He is quality, the fact that he does even better outside the sub-continent is just another feather in his cap.
 
In his career he's won more matches for India with centuries than Tendulkar has iirc what the Wisden Cricketer magazine said in March.
 
IF I had to decide between Dravid-Tendulkar-Ponting I would choose the wall Dravid. He seems unbeatable and has a fantastic record against every country. He is strong on the legside but is very safe when playing off side and straight. Dravid1 Ponting2 Tendulkar3
 
In his career he's won more matches for India with centuries than Tendulkar has iirc what the Wisden Cricketer magazine said in March.

well you just want to see tendulkar bat, few sights are as good in the world of sport.

Dravid is a classy batsman, but just doesn't have that elusive and undefinible "x-factor".
 

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