DBC 17 Batting post Patch 3

[blockerdave]

this whole train of thought is just bigoted thinking from you and more way to try to insinuate me as villain here.




dude i made the whole video of ON Drive for you after you cleared it in pm were i also clearly show how and when pull animation was happening. so another bullshite from you to attack.




Again all i ever did was put in tuts on request of people here first cricket online, then people here in thread kept asking and i provided details of how shots worked for me.


If it works for you ok, if it does not it doesnot. How the hell is that anyway going to be a problem for you communicating with BA. Also all this was given when all thought the versions were in parity with each other. If you had spent more time testing that pc beta patch instead of trying to flame here may you would have arrived at the conclusion earlier.


If all you needed was getting the batting fixed based ion your experience there was no need to ever tag me or dutch. you just needed to report or discuss here, we weren't standing in you way, when you say things like a game were one guy can bat I had to disagree on bullshit like that.




And for all that talk of me having direct communication with BA, seriously you to have that, and may be you should make better use of it.

Villain? Behave.

I know when the on drive gets triggered as a pull, everyone does. You literally are unable to see the point.

The bottom line is it never happened before the patch, and now it does. It is a new issue, that you have constantly- in this thread and elsewhere - tried to belittle as being about thumb position. It's not. The same thumb position pre patch gave the on drive. That is the only point I have ever made. Again you think you're Mr Internet hero, look at video sir don't put your thumbs here and it won't happen. You know what, I put my thumbs exactly there before the patch and it didn't happen. Now it does. The patch introduced a new issue we reported it, it needs nothing more from you beyond silence.

When have I ever tagged you and Dutch in a discussion of the console batting? There was one private message where I said that your discussion of the batting was disconnected from the console users because you hadn't spent a month playing 1 version only to be delivered a vastly different version in they patch. That was it. Because when you (not Dutch who is a proper gent) are insulting the console users, and I can add perspective to that, I did so as a way to help the beta. And what did I get from you? Same rubbish about the leg glance as on here.

 

[blockerdave]

This, so much this! I play on legend, settings like footwork, bowling influence etc on 100, but timing on 25-33 ish, and its pretty much like cricket IRL as far as i can tell... no balls flying off in weird directions, i can play based on reading the line and length without mis-hitting everything...

I wonder if the crazy timing issue we seem to be experiencing was bigant forgetting that not everyone plays with those length indicators...

Sorry mate that's a little contradictory. You've said this so much this to a guy saying he has to play before he can read line but then say you read line and length fine... which is it cuz this thread is confused enough already!!

Also - which platform?

 

[grkrama]

Because when you (not Dutch who is a proper gent) are insulting the console users,

again your own insinuating. i made the videos because cricket online, someone asked about batting, Dont go like broken record. i have clearly distinguished both leg glance and ondrive in all the mentions.Even now when there was no reason but you had to paint a picture like im in between the feedback here and BA when its the opposite as the post before page shows. yet you tried to do a doosra here dont know wtf is your problem with me.[DOUBLEPOST=1486252026][/DOUBLEPOST]you can go on like a broken record if you want, i really dont care

 

[Bluebagger]

FWIW I haven't played the console version but on PC I've never had a reverse cut (no idea what this is either btw) but I've had the pull shot when attempting an on drive.

Some times it feels like the ball doesn't travel far off the bat but I get a lot of ground 4's as well. I really don't think that the timing indicators matter much at all, I've had "bad timing" or bad "bad shot" get smashed for 4

I also think that some ball placements get triggered dependent on the timing window rather than the shot input. I don't know if I'll explain it correctly but I played a lofted aggressive cut shot yesterday which bounced once for 4...over extra cover. It looked wrong in every aspect of play. I get the feeling that because I have all 3 green indicators I've played a "four shot" but because the ball was slower the game has placed the ball through the covers where it correctly should have been played based on timing rather than playing and missing or edging the ball. It's kind of like the game compensates for what should have happened based on what it determines to be correct rather than what should have happened based on input. This is what I believe happens with on drives through midwicket. The animations and the ball placements of both of these shots don't correlate and they look very awkward and unnatural.

I don't take notice of wagon wheels either. I can show you a couple of wagon wheels with 360 degree scoring runs but it doesn't indicate that everything through midwicket came from an on drive.

 

[First.Last]

Sorry mate that's a little contradictory. You've said this so much this to a guy saying he has to play before he can read line but then say you read line and length fine... which is it cuz this thread is confused enough already!!

Also - which platform?

Playing on pc, i mean i am able to read line and length properly because i turned the timing down and therefore have enough time to pick the correct shot to play as in turning the timing setting down seems to fix most problems i have had with the game thus far

 

[Mr Snrub]

Playing on pc, i mean i am able to read line and length properly because i turned the timing down and therefore have enough time to pick the correct shot to play as in turning the timing setting down seems to fix most problems i have had with the game thus far

That's great if that's working for you. It's just that whatever level of the having to play early you had on PC, it's almost definitely much worse on the PS4 console sadly. Still, good that the tweaks help there for you, I've tried on PS4 and I'm not noticing large differences to this aspect yet.

 

[jaffar100]

Career Mode Easy Batting:

I have just started playing my career and observed below things. Note sure is this an issue or expected behaviour.

Batting meter showing
Footwork: Ideal
Shot selection: Ideal
Timing : Ideal

1. Shot attempt Straight hit by Holding R2 , even though everything showing as ideal I am getting caught at mid on or mid off.

2. Shot attempt leg side flick for six by holding R2 , getting caught at square leg or fine leg , even though everything is ideal.

I thought if everything is ideal then ball should get carried all the way to the boundary for six or four?

I understand that my skill points are very less since I started club cricket just now but even sometimes Nehra can hit four if he connect well.

It's this a bug or game is designed that way until you have skill points you won't be able to clear boundaries by lofted shots?

 

[DemonicHuntsman]

Career Mode Easy Batting:

I have just started playing my career and observed below things. Note sure is this an issue or expected behaviour.

Batting meter showing
Footwork: Ideal
Shot selection: Ideal
Timing : Ideal

1. Shot attempt Straight hit by Holding R2 , even though everything showing as ideal I am getting caught at mid on or mid off.

2. Shot attempt leg side flick for six by holding R2 , getting caught at square leg or fine leg , even though everything is ideal.

I thought if everything is ideal then ball should get carried all the way to the boundary for six or four?

I understand that my skill points are very less since I started club cricket just now but even sometimes Nehra can hit four if he connect well.

It's this a bug or game is designed that way until you have skill points you won't be able to clear boundaries by lofted shots?

I just restarted a career to check this very thing and I went from having all my batting skills around 70 hitting 70 - 80 per t20 match with heaps of sixes to getting 20s with a few 4s. Your characters skills make a huge difference

 

[thisISjoel]

Career Mode Easy Batting:

I have just started playing my career and observed below things. Note sure is this an issue or expected behaviour.

Batting meter showing
Footwork: Ideal
Shot selection: Ideal
Timing : Ideal

1. Shot attempt Straight hit by Holding R2 , even though everything showing as ideal I am getting caught at mid on or mid off.

2. Shot attempt leg side flick for six by holding R2 , getting caught at square leg or fine leg , even though everything is ideal.

I thought if everything is ideal then ball should get carried all the way to the boundary for six or four?

I understand that my skill points are very less since I started club cricket just now but even sometimes Nehra can hit four if he connect well.

It's this a bug or game is designed that way until you have skill points you won't be able to clear boundaries by lofted shots?

I'm struggling/hating batting in career mode. The amount of times I've been caught behind with ideal everything! My player has high 60s/low 70s for footwork, timing, control, attacking, driving, cutting, pulling. Idk why I'm so bad, but I can't bat for shite.

 

[jaffar100]

I just restarted a career to check this very thing and I went from having all my batting skills around 70 hitting 70 - 80 per t20 match with heaps of sixes to getting 20s with a few 4s. Your characters skills make a huge difference

If this is the case then it should be a bug isn't it?
We know batting skills of McGrath or nehra...Even if they middles a shot straight down the ground then he may hit six. Same logic could have been here as well?
If Everything is perfect with the shot then it should go for six.

Note that if I dance down the ground for spinners I have hit sixes many times.

 

[DemonicHuntsman]

If this is the case then it should be a bug isn't it?
We know batting skills of McGrath or nehra...Even if they middles a shot straight down the ground then he may hit six. Same logic could have been here as well?
If Everything is perfect with the shot then it should go for six.

Note that if I dance down the ground for spinners I have hit sixes many times.

I guess it depends what big ant is going for. It could be a case of making us feel the difference between low/high level players more but that's just a guess on my part. A well timed lofted shot for my new opener will clear the infield only just and anyone at a deep fielding position will have an easy catch.

 

[chaman82]

Close In fielders are super active @ legend mode.

Short cover + short mid wkt.
They take 10 out of 10 catches diving 5feet either side. It's unreal.

Reduced the reflex catching attribute to 10,
And close fielding to 40 , this gave fine balance and looked more realistic.

Really enjoying batting for both sides with setting the AI fields .
All the batting modifiers are working gr8.

 

[cricket_online]

Close In fielders are super active @ legend mode.

Short cover + short mid wkt.
They take 10 out of 10 catches diving 5feet either side. It's unreal.

Reduced the reflex catching attribute to 10,
And close fielding to 40 , this gave fine balance and looked more realistic.

Really enjoying batting for both sides with setting the AI fields .
All the batting modifiers are working gr8.

Where and how do you reduce the reflex catching attribute and close fielding? Don't see it anywhere.

 

[christy_lenin1]

I bought the PC version as well today to verify if there is any difference with the console version and to support BA.

Even though my laptop is not good enough for this game it still runs fine after lowering everything in the settings.

I must say there is a noticeable amount of difference.

First, the timer starts little late not much but that is enough to watch the line and play the shot with ideal timing.

Timer window is bigger compared to PS4 version.

The big difference I saw was there's more power for all the shots and footwork is very less sensitive.

Overall IMO the HARD difficulty in PC version if close to MEDIUM in the console.

 

[cricket_online]

I bought the PC version as well today to verify if there is any difference with the console version and to support BA.

Even though my laptop is not good enough for this game it still runs fine after lowering everything in the settings.

I must say there is a noticeable amount of difference.

First, the timer starts little late not much but that is enough to watch the line and play the shot with ideal timing.

Timer window is bigger compared to PS4 version.

The big difference I saw was there's more power for all the shots and footwork is very less sensitive.

Overall IMO the HARD difficulty in PC version if close to MEDIUM in the console.

@BigAntStudios , @MattW , @HBK619 do take a look at the feedback from @christy_lenin1 and @blockerdave . Both of them have played DBC 17 on PC as well as PS4 and have mentioned the PC version is different and the batting experience on PC is much better than on consoles. No wonder the ball goes in the direction you intend to hit more often on videos seen for PC versions and you hardly see the common dismissal where the batsman moves across the stumps and getting bowled behind the stumps.