DBC 17 Batting post Patch 3

[Mr Snrub]

DILLIGAF! I'm 100,000 × infinite sure that its noooo where near as bad your making it sound...no where near (that's hyperbole). Heck I'm playing on the same console as you and have never had any of these issues your trying soo hard to convince people they exist after patch 3.

Note: if it so happens to be that there is region codes that have a different playing experience, then I stand to be corrected and apologise... but for me in Aus, the patch has added more to batting then what it was pre-patch 3.

Edit: Some of the posts flying about are at, dare I say it.... TROLL LEVEL!

I'm someone who in the past has had disagreements with blockerdave, I've found his attitude bullish at times and at others worse. That said, the experiences he's having are very similar to my own with this game. I've found that some shots are being input my myself with almost opposite results coming out in what's being represented on screen. I'm unsure of what exactly is causing it, but it does happen. My thoughts are that it could relate to any of the following or a combination:

Player positioning
Player footwork input
User timing
Slider values
Difficulty level discrepencies
Downloaded sides player attributes

In any case, there's a range of reasons that some people could be experiencing a different issue to you.

 

[grkrama]

The wagon wheel doesn't prove anything. I can show wagon wheels with 4s going to different parts of the ground. Doesn't meant they're a reflection of where I wanted to hit it.

here's a couple of overs of batting of that wagon wheel by KL rahul, you can see how i look at the field have an idea of it and go.

also this vid in my tutorial were you can see the ball corresponding to the direction of RS.

IN the end i respect the experience your having in game and i do not deny it, and the tuts are there to say what im doing and how it works, for others to try it out. If it doesnt work it doesnt work for you, and im glad you reach out to BA, may be they can come-up with something.

But you got respect my experience of the game too, its not random for me. and i dont have a reason to o hoodwink you on that.


The batting isnt perfect, but its close once the little niggles are sorted imho.

 

[grkrama]

IMO after patch 3 the batting is more realistic and agree on the above points. Also along with the footwork, it seems the angle of the delivery also determines where the ball ends up.

Even I felt sometimes some shots doesn't go where we intend to play, there needs some tweaking but what I feel difficult or some tweaking required is the batting timer starts way too early. If I watch the line/length/speed/direction and place my foot then I always end up with late timed shot.

I went back to dbc14 to check how it works there, even with the highest difficulty I can time it perfectly by watching the line & length but I like the dbc17 batting much more after patch 3 but only thing is they need to delay the batting timer little bit.

Before patch 2, i think the timing meter was perfect

@funnyadit ,@grkrama , @cricket_online please share your opinion on this

Ya i do think the timing window is narrower and also the feedback isnt in sync, it will say ideal especially for spin you can see the actual ideal is when you play a bit late.

 

[blockerdave]

here's a couple of overs of batting of that wagon wheel by KL rahul, you can see how i look at the field have an idea of it and go.

also this vid in my tutorial were you can see the ball corresponding to the direction of RS.

IN the end i respect the experience your having in game and i do not deny it, and the tuts are there to say what im doing and how it works, for others to try it out. If it doesnt work it doesnt work for you, and im glad you reach out to BA, may be they can come-up with something.

But you got respect my experience of the game too, its not random for me. and i dont have a reason to o hoodwink you on that.


The batting isnt perfect, but its close once the little niggles are sorted imho.

Yawn.

 

[grkrama]

FartSSSSS

 

[blockerdave]

Please guys - I want to find out what's going wrong for people here and get things improved - it'd help a lot if you'd all try and stick to constructive discussion of this. In testing so far I've been able to get a few cases where it seemed to go in a different direction than the input - but the more specific examples people can highlight the better.

No no that doesn't happen. LBP & grkrama said so, you must be trolling.

Every time you play a trigger cut to a ball that is too straight (so you should be ducking or hooking) you will do that horrendous reverse cut. It is easily repeatable.

 

[Gamer Pradosh]

IMO after patch 3 the batting is more realistic and agree on the above points. Also along with the footwork, it seems the angle of the delivery also determines where the ball ends up.

Even I felt sometimes some shots doesn't go where we intend to play, there needs some tweaking but what I feel difficult or some tweaking required is the batting timer starts way too early. If I watch the line/length/speed/direction and place my foot then I always end up with late timed shot.

I went back to dbc14 to check how it works there, even with the highest difficulty I can time it perfectly by watching the line & length but I like the dbc17 batting much more after patch 3 but only thing is they need to delay the batting timer little bit.

Before patch 2, i think the timing meter was perfect

@funnyadit ,@grkrama , @cricket_online please share your opinion on this

Totally agree mate..The thing BA can do is extend the footwork region in which the foot should be pointing at..Like if the game requires you to point at 11'o clock then in hardest it can be between 5% ,hard 10%, medium 15%,easy 20% region in which the footwork can be placed to get that intended shot get executed well..It has to be based on the difficulty it is being played...The current batting system is definitely the closest to real life and this needs to be kept as a base and work around for people to play as per their liking by making it more approachable..If I had faced something like the shots going to regions where it shouldnt go and some related stuff about that , would have first closed the game and report it here for them to work it out..Have faced a few going through bat thing similar to what DBC 14 had..

 

[Gamer Pradosh]

No no that doesn't happen. LBP & grkrama said so, you must be trolling.

Every time you play a trigger cut to a ball that is too straight (so you should be ducking or hooking) you will do that horrendous reverse cut. It is easily repeatable.

Chill mate, not healthy with someone who does give good feedback..Not sure what the problem is with you but here you are the one here being the "Not useful for the game report" person..Please post a proper points with related videos , I know you can get the video of issues..I also know the issue causing you to play that reverse sweep I myself have faced it, but that hasnt caused issues in my batting as the shot usually goes for some runs to me than a catch or miss...

 

[blockerdave]

Chill mate, not healthy with someone who does give good feedback..Not sure what the problem is with you but here you are the one here being the "Not useful for the game report" person..Please post a proper points with related videos , I know you can get the video of issues..I also know the issue causing you to play that reverse sweep I myself have faced it, but that hasnt caused issues in my batting as the shot usually goes for some runs to me than a catch or miss...

I gave him specific instructions on how to replicate an issue I'm having. How is that not helpful?

As for the first paragraph, when 2 people tell me the issue doesn't exist then the developer says he's been able to replicate it, I think I'm allowed a little joke.

 

[grkrama]

gave him specific instructions on how to replicate an issue I'm having. How is that not helpful?

As for the first paragraph, when 2 people tell me the issue doesn't exist then the developer says he's been able to replicate it, I think I'm allowed a little joke.

dude nobody is denying your issues, only the point that the whole batting is wrong because of these niggles.


You want to revert to old legglance that was unidirectional because of the pull animation it plays now when the ball is way outside off.

Im saying let BA get rid of the pull animation and let the glance remain as it is.[DOUBLEPOST=1485850328][/DOUBLEPOST]

As for the first paragraph, when 2 people tell me the issue doesn't exist then the developer says he's been able to replicate it, I think I'm allowed a little joke.

the irony matt himself hasnt told what he experienced, what shot he played and what was the result. So you dont have much to go by.[DOUBLEPOST=1485850379][/DOUBLEPOST]They are only a set of oddities that happen and they can be got rid off without reworking the system.

 

[Jerm]

here's a couple of overs of batting of that wagon wheel by KL rahul, you can see how i look at the field have an idea of it and go.

also this vid in my tutorial were you can see the ball corresponding to the direction of RS.

IN the end i respect the experience your having in game and i do not deny it, and the tuts are there to say what im doing and how it works, for others to try it out. If it doesnt work it doesnt work for you, and im glad you reach out to BA, may be they can come-up with something.

But you got respect my experience of the game too, its not random for me. and i dont have a reason to o hoodwink you on that.


The batting isnt perfect, but its close once the little niggles are sorted imho.

I am wondering if its not something to do with the controller itself, maybe the PS4 input are far more sensitive than an XBOX controller? I find the degree difference is shot placing to be a very very tiny difference on the ps4 controller, a fraction of a degree results in a shot in a very different place to where you planned to aim it... when it goes off at a wrong angle i often look down and see oh my word my sticks are totally wrong, but when i actually played it, the stick movements felt perfect.

this is a tough one to diagnose.

 

[Mr Snrub]

the irony matt himself hasnt told what he experienced, what shot he played and what was the result.

Matt has said enough to say that he has found examples of shots that play out contrary to input instruction. Please let's not over-complicate it.

Blocker is right that some issues exist. You are not experiencing them, that's great. It doesn't mean he's not entitled to his views. He is not saying all of the batting is bad, just the problems are bad for him and ruin enjoyment of the game.

You are a very helpful guy and play the game well by all accounts. That does not mean that people who are unable to do what you do are the issue. The game should be able to play properly for people of all levels and helpful tutorials or not, there are genuine issues with batting. It seems that you're concerned that blocker might want things to revert to old systems/less footwork or something? I never got that impression. I got the impression that he wants good footwork included, but that it needs to result in correct shots with correct timing etc.

 

[Mr Snrub]

what I feel difficult or some tweaking required is the batting timer starts way too early. If I watch the line/length/speed/direction and place my foot then I always end up with late timed shot.

I went back to dbc14 to check how it works there, even with the highest difficulty I can time it perfectly by watching the line & length but I like the dbc17 batting much more after patch 3 but only thing is they need to delay the batting timer little bit.

Before patch 2, i think the timing meter was perfect

IMO it should be based on the difficulty levels.

I absolutely could not agree more!! yesyes

 

[LittleBigPlanet]

here's a couple of overs of batting of that wagon wheel by KL rahul, you can see how i look at the field have an idea of it and go.

That rahul video was really nice to see... every ball looked like it was played on its merits, no aggressive ground shot modifiers, you weren't trying to loft every ball. Too often you see videos of people just trying to hit the ball where the fielders aren't or trying to hit everything for 6.The game looks so much better when you play play every ball on its merit, I mean sure try and git it where the fielders aren't by all means, but picking gaps in between fielders while playing a ball on its merit is much better and realistic option imho.

 

[Callytee]

I agree with blockerdave,

The batting post patch is all over the shop. Don't get me wrong I can bat to it, but there is zero consistency. It's like by opening up the field the have killed some kind of parameters.

You just can't rely post patch that a shot will actually go where it should. I've had wide square cuts perfectly timed be driven through mid off. I've had cover drives go for four through mid on. I know how to play this game it's not bad shot selection. I can still hit big scores but it's it definitely needs fixing.