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The Ashes is not a training ground. You pick teams to win the Ashes, not to win the next one.
Dec 16-20: 3rd Test - Australia v England at Perth
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Oh dear lord. Australian cricket is in a mess.
Beer? Seriously?
I wonder if I could get a test cap if I flew over to Australia now. They seem intent on giving every spinner in the country a game.
This is just ridiculous.
Smith likely to play as well. Very, very eager to see how he goes. His bowling hasn't impressed me at all because his action isn't very smooth or repeatable, although he gets in a nice position when he releases the ball. Didn't notice that till I saw his bowling in slow motion. So if he clicks he could be difficult to play.
But the fact that he's often treated like a part-timer in domestic games doesn't bode well if he's going to bowl at an in-form England lineup.
Also want to see what he can do with the bat. Almost definitely can't be worse than North.
That's another thing that pisses me off. The Aussie players and selectors kept saying North's a great player, we have faith in him, he'll come good, great guy to have in the team, etc...and then they go and drop him. Yes, he deserved to be dropped, but what's the point of all that false support? Why not just come out and say 'Yea, he's been in ████ form, and he is playing for his spot in the side. He has the ability, but if he doesn't convert that into performances, he'll probably lose his spot in the side'. After all, there is no point in giving him false support and acting as though you have his back, and then dropping him. That'll do his confidence more harm than good. Atleast if you're being honest he knows what to expect, and who knows, fear of losing his spot could be a better motivator than knowing everyone is supporting you.
Hughes to open, Beer likely to debut. I think Aus might bring back Mith and Hilfy and leave Beer to 12th man duties, but why pick a new rookie just to carry drinks to the field?
The Australian selector's thought process are messed up.
Beer? Seriously?
I wonder if I could get a test cap if I flew over to Australia now. They seem intent on giving every spinner in the country a game.
This is just ridiculous.
Smith likely to play as well. Very, very eager to see how he goes. His bowling hasn't impressed me at all because his action isn't very smooth or repeatable, although he gets in a nice position when he releases the ball. Didn't notice that till I saw his bowling in slow motion. So if he clicks he could be difficult to play.
But the fact that he's often treated like a part-timer in domestic games doesn't bode well if he's going to bowl at an in-form England lineup.
Also want to see what he can do with the bat. Almost definitely can't be worse than North.
That's another thing that pisses me off. The Aussie players and selectors kept saying North's a great player, we have faith in him, he'll come good, great guy to have in the team, etc...and then they go and drop him. Yes, he deserved to be dropped, but what's the point of all that false support? Why not just come out and say 'Yea, he's been in ████ form, and he is playing for his spot in the side. He has the ability, but if he doesn't convert that into performances, he'll probably lose his spot in the side'. After all, there is no point in giving him false support and acting as though you have his back, and then dropping him. That'll do his confidence more harm than good. Atleast if you're being honest he knows what to expect, and who knows, fear of losing his spot could be a better motivator than knowing everyone is supporting you.
Hughes to open, Beer likely to debut. I think Aus might bring back Mith and Hilfy and leave Beer to 12th man duties, but why pick a new rookie just to carry drinks to the field?
The Australian selector's thought process are messed up.
North was never picked as a batsmen, he was picked as an all rounder. That is the only reason he got in over David Hussey who he was in competition with at the time.
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CremerCurrans
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Michael Beer has an average of 39.93 In Shield Cricket how could that honestly warrant selection. And if Johnson is anything more than 12th man I'll be pissed off.
Beer??!!! Should have been Hauritz...scratch that - should have been Warney! Mitch Johnson is probably the only player in the squad who would even recognise Beer. But at least it put an end to the 'Ponting's pet' theory of spinning selection. Punter's probably never seen him bowl. Though I wouldn't play the spinner anyway. Smith and 4 quicks is the way for Perth.
Apart from Beer I like the squad, although I'd have probably played Usman instead of Hughes if it were my choice.
Apart from Beer I like the squad, although I'd have probably played Usman instead of Hughes if it were my choice.
How can they justify this Beer bloke over Hauritz, or Doherty, or Krejza, or most spinners in Australia? I know Warne 'recommended' him, but surely he was taking the piss, cos he was backing Hauritz as Australia's leading wicket taker for the Ashes before it started.
midgetwars
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Smith can Bat and bowl. North Can't. How can smith do any worse than north?
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Beer? Hes only in because Warnie suggested it.
The Ashes 2010-11: Shane Warne flattered by comeback talk | Cricket News | The Ashes 2010-11 | ESPN Cricinfo
I am a 16 y.o. leggie and probably turn the ball more. And when Pietersen comes in I'll switch to chinaman (Yes I can actually do this, ask my cricket coach)
If they dont pick a 4 man pace attack for this test with smith at 6 or 7 im gonna go over there and say give me a baggy green
Team (restricted to shocking squad)
1. Watson
2. Hughes
3. Ponting
4. Clarke
5. Hussey
6/7. Haddin*
7/6. Smith
8. Johnson
9. Harris
10. Hilfenhaus
11. Siddle
The Ashes 2010-11: Shane Warne flattered by comeback talk | Cricket News | The Ashes 2010-11 | ESPN Cricinfo
I am a 16 y.o. leggie and probably turn the ball more. And when Pietersen comes in I'll switch to chinaman (Yes I can actually do this, ask my cricket coach)
If they dont pick a 4 man pace attack for this test with smith at 6 or 7 im gonna go over there and say give me a baggy green
Team (restricted to shocking squad)
1. Watson
2. Hughes
3. Ponting
4. Clarke
5. Hussey
6/7. Haddin*
7/6. Smith
8. Johnson
9. Harris
10. Hilfenhaus
11. Siddle
I thought it piss taking too. Sort of a 'they might as well pick Michael Beer' type of line, not a 'they SHOULD pick Beer' statement.
Makes a little more sense in that way. Beer will basically be the rebound guy for the Ponting/Doherty/Hauritz love triangle, so that it's not so harsh on Xavier when Hauritz comes back for Boxing Day.
I loved this piece from the press release:
The dude's a Victorian who's played a whopping 3 Shield games at the WACA
I've got as much knowledge of the WACA...Better than the 40s and 50s that Doherty/Krejza/Hauritz had when they were selected
But yea, Beer might not play. Maybe they want to get a look at him in the nets, or pick his brain on the Pert conditions.
It's equally likely they panicked and listened to Warne...
ZoraxDoom added 1 Minutes and 31 Seconds later...
Keep working on your cricket, play a handful on FC games, and you could get a Baggy Green by the time you're 20 if the Aussie selectors keep this policy up!
sami ullah khan
Panel of Selectors
Australia are probably playing Smith as an Allrounder. This will only put extra pressure on youngster. He is expected to perform both with bat and ball. He should be played as a specialist bowler who can bat a bit IMO.
Warne's Ashes answer is BeerThe dude's a Victorian who's played a whopping 3 Shield games at the WACA
Maybe that sealed the deal for him
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