Look Ross has assured us and has been assuring us for months (see the first post of this thread) that the game will release in 2013. He and BA will not want the credibility hit that would occur should they adjust this date at the last minute (as did another game earlier this year). Look at it on the bright side- BA will not want to repeat the July fiasco so the longer it takes to hear from them, the more certain it is that it will release this year. This sounds dumb but I'm trying to put a positive spin on it. I dont think we're going to get another "here we go again" delay announcement. Roll on Nov. 30