England in India

[BigCrickNan]

Gile always used to bowl way outside the right handers leg stump, when he was probably one of the most useless bowlers in the world.

Over the past couple of years hes attacked the stumps more, which has given him more wickets. Giles in front of Udal anyday, and it would be good if Giles and Panesar played together.

 

[m_vaughan]

Thats right. Those who think Giles never spins the ball should probably go and ask one Mr. Damien Martyn.

 

[Sureshot]

One-off.

Giles more often than not delivers straight balls.

 

[Stephen Bailey]

Over the past couple of years hes attacked the stumps more, which has given him more wickets. Giles in front of Udal anyday, and it would be good if Giles and Panesar played together.

But then which seamer do you drop? Hoggard, Harmison or Jones? Even if Giles does recover he won't have bowled a ball since the 2nd test v Pakistan. It's asking alot for any bowler to come straight into test cricket having not bowled in so long. Shove in Panesar and put Simon Jones at 8.

 

[BigCrickNan]

But then which seamer do you drop? Hoggard, Harmison or Jones? Even if Giles does recover he won't have bowled a ball since the 2nd test v Pakistan. It's asking alot for any bowler to come straight into test cricket having not bowled in so long. Shove in Panesar and put Simon Jones at 8.

I would only play both if it was a really spinning wicket. I agrre with you play Panesar and put Jones in at 8, i've said all along the tail should be like this:
Hoggard (11)
Panesar
Harmy
Jones.

 

[jazz]

Thats right. Those who think Giles never spins the ball should probably go and ask one Mr. Damien Martyn.

and Brian Lara

 

[langerrox]

Thats right. Those who think Giles never spins the ball should probably go and ask one Mr. Damien Martyn.

he doesnt spin it, he hit a rough spot, thats hard, he just angles it he comes around the wicket and delivers it orthodox which makes it go away from right handers and in to lefties, he had 2 good balls.. meh

 

[m_vaughan]

Well as much as we keep talking about the King of Spain, one man who could play a crucial role in this series is Simon Jones. Jones missed the Pakistan tour, and England missed him. I think however Jones must not overdo himself, because we need him fit for the Ashes tour later this year. Jones has mastered the art of reverse swing, and that might help him in the test matches at Nagpur and Mohali.

 

[vibs89]

Well as much as we keep talking about the King of Spain, one man who could play a crucial role in this series is Simon Jones. Jones missed the Pakistan tour, and England missed him. I think however Jones must not overdo himself, because we need him fit for the Ashes tour later this year. Jones has mastered the art of reverse swing, and that might help him in the test matches at Nagpur and Mohali.

What about Mathew Hoggard. I heard he's good in outswinging and Reverse Swing.

 

[RoboRocks]

Good outswinger but not reverse swing, as M Vaughan say above Simon Jones is our reverse swing specialist

 

[BigCrickNan]

Hoggard can't reverse swing. He swings it both ways orthodox swing and gets eam movement.

 

[aussie1st]

Hoggard is a swing bowler but not much of a reverse swing bowler thus he became useless after the ball stop swinging. Flintoff is a pro at reverse swing and if Jones is fit they will make one deadly combo when it starts reversing.

 

[BigCrickNan]

But not forgetting Freddie, he can do almost everything with the ball.

 

[aussie1st]

But not forgetting Freddie, he can do almost everything with the ball.

Right you are, he was reverse swinging both ways. Usually bowlers only do it one way. This was what made it so tricky for the left handers that could pick which was the ball was going. I wonder if he can do the same over in India.

 

[James219]

It will be difficult to adapt to the batting conditions, for sure, but with their bowling they really need to listen how to cope and what line and lengths to attack. Coming to terms with the climate would always be difficult, but in Pakistan when they weren't consistently picking up wickets they were pounding in, yet trying to bowl short to no effect. Flintoff will be huge in this series, hopefully he can balance both facets of his game. I wouldn't say Hoggard's useless when the ball loses shine, he can still pick up wickets and tie down an end to som extent while another strike bowler attacks. And with Udal, agreed, how's a 36-year-old who has played all his life in England going to cope overseas for relatively long periods, especially India.
And m_vaughan, Jones needs to get his rhythm back on the international stage, that's why he has to work himself into it and then push himself for a huge test of fitness and experience that will prove invaluable going into the Ashes.