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Ye fixed.
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Ye fixed.
We'll be lucky to qualify if they carry on playing like that, they were saying that it's only the group winners and the best runner-up who qualify automatically, and with Montenegro only needing to win tonight, we would then go into second, and most likely have to play a play-off to qualify, which could have disastrous consequences.
MasterBlaster76
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Right, so we got away with one today - that doesn't hide the fact that we need to play a whole lot better than we did today. And enough with this 'tired' nonsense, eh? As one of the guys said, if we're always tired at this time of the year, then we might as well give International tournaments up! Most of Europe has a winter break, we need to follow suit.
Lee1981
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Exactly, what a load of cr@p, these are the same lame excuses these over paid underperforming "stars" hide behind time and time again.
Wasn't the world cup enough for everyone to realise we are just so far behind other nations, so for me qualifying for the euro's is pointless.
I mean what would be classed as a success in the euro's, quaters-semi's?
I for one am sick and tired of watching us fail on the big stage, and then have to hear countless excuses, its quite simple we are an average national team nowadays and if we keep our expectations low and stop this "we have a chance of winning the world cup-euro's" cr@p then we won't have anymore heartache.
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The tiredness argument for English players going into tournaments has merit since EURO 2000. Although its not the main reason why England do bad in tournaments.
- Overhyped media expectation in this country
- The talented players actually chocking on the world stage while wearing ENG shirt compared to their clubs
- Various coaches making tactical errors (Capello's 4-4-2 flop in 2010, Sven playing Scholes out left in EURO 04, McClaren's 3-5-2 disaster in Zagreb 2008 come to mind).
But fact is no other major European nation in tournaments since EURO 2008 have had a consistent amount of key players out injured like England.
WC 2002. England lost Neville & Gerrard, while Beckham played not 100%
EURO 04. No one went into the tournament injured. But we had in tournament injuries to Terry & Rooney.
WC 2006. Both Neville, Rooney & Owen had major injuries going into the cup.
EURO 08. More than half of the 1st team players was out injured when Croatia knocked us out of EURO 08 qualifiers.
WC 2010. Ferdinand, Rooney, King, Beckham, Barry, Hargreaves, Walcott all suffered crucial injuries leading up to the cup/during the cup after doing well in the qualifiers.
You check the injury records for the likes of Spain, Germany, Portugal, Italy, France to their key players going into tournaments in the last decade & none have such issues.
- Overhyped media expectation in this country
- The talented players actually chocking on the world stage while wearing ENG shirt compared to their clubs
- Various coaches making tactical errors (Capello's 4-4-2 flop in 2010, Sven playing Scholes out left in EURO 04, McClaren's 3-5-2 disaster in Zagreb 2008 come to mind).
But fact is no other major European nation in tournaments since EURO 2008 have had a consistent amount of key players out injured like England.
WC 2002. England lost Neville & Gerrard, while Beckham played not 100%
EURO 04. No one went into the tournament injured. But we had in tournament injuries to Terry & Rooney.
WC 2006. Both Neville, Rooney & Owen had major injuries going into the cup.
EURO 08. More than half of the 1st team players was out injured when Croatia knocked us out of EURO 08 qualifiers.
WC 2010. Ferdinand, Rooney, King, Beckham, Barry, Hargreaves, Walcott all suffered crucial injuries leading up to the cup/during the cup after doing well in the qualifiers.
You check the injury records for the likes of Spain, Germany, Portugal, Italy, France to their key players going into tournaments in the last decade & none have such issues.
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Lee1981
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Yeah like it says in the post above yours.
Lee1981
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My apologies
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Peter Crouch quits Fabio Capello's England | Mail Online
Sir Trevor Brooking blasts walkout England stars | Mail Online
Brooking is right, these players have some nerve. England haven't won anything since god knows when & they want to retire just because they aren't 1st team players. Well excuseeeeee me Crouch, Foster, Brown, Robinson you all are average players - you aint no Rooney or Gerrard.
- Just be glad you are getting picked for your country since some others aint so lucky. You would never see this nonsense happening with players from other major nations who have won trophies.
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Yes but id argue given the media pressure in this country thats basically hyped ENG up enormously before tournaments then brings, their is a certain psychological weight that these talented players get when they put on the 3 lions shirt, that cripples them in big games on the national stage compared. While in club shirts in similar situations they rise to the occasion.
Its a mirror opposite to other countries players who relish playing for their countries. You are the Germans & although up until the 2010 tournaments most their sides in major tournaments between EUR0 2000 - EURO 08 have been average, you always got the feeling German players relished playing for Germany given their countries great WC tradition. England's current players still suffer from the ghost of 1966.
Sir Trevor Brooking blasts walkout England stars | Mail Online
Brooking is right, these players have some nerve. England haven't won anything since god knows when & they want to retire just because they aren't 1st team players. Well excuseeeeee me Crouch, Foster, Brown, Robinson you all are average players - you aint no Rooney or Gerrard.
- Just be glad you are getting picked for your country since some others aint so lucky. You would never see this nonsense happening with players from other major nations who have won trophies.----------
Yes but id argue given the media pressure in this country thats basically hyped ENG up enormously before tournaments then brings, their is a certain psychological weight that these talented players get when they put on the 3 lions shirt, that cripples them in big games on the national stage compared. While in club shirts in similar situations they rise to the occasion.
Its a mirror opposite to other countries players who relish playing for their countries. You are the Germans & although up until the 2010 tournaments most their sides in major tournaments between EUR0 2000 - EURO 08 have been average, you always got the feeling German players relished playing for Germany given their countries great WC tradition. England's current players still suffer from the ghost of 1966.
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