England Team Discussion

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By Taylor thing, I meant the issue with trying to fit guys in, not just him especially. That's why the next sentence mentions plenty of players. In T20s, we have Roy, Hales, Root, Morgan, Buttler, Stokes, Ali all more than capable of playing in the top 5. That's without mentioning guys doing well domestically like Malan and Vince. You could even add in the likes of Lumb and Luke Wright. We don't need to worry about bringing KP back in, that's my point.

I'm fairly confident that KP would have a better tournament than Roy, Vince, Malan or Wright.

Stokes, Root, Hales, Morgan and Buttler are all 100% in and Ali gets in as a spinner.

So if you're picking the 7 best batsman for the squad then you pick Pietersen. The team spirit thing isn't such a big deal in the t20 side. There's nobody around in that side that he's had an issue with. Cook, Prior, Broad, Anderson, Swann and Bresnan don't play anymore. Flower isn't the coach and Strauss doesn't have day to day dealings with the team.

I'm dead against him playing in the ODI or test side for cricketing and non cricketing reasons.

 

[MUFC1987]

I couldn't care less if KP was scoring 100* every game off 60 balls, I'd hate to see him back in the side. His comments about James Taylor show exactly what type of person he is. We have talented players to come in, so I don't see the point in recalling a 35 year old with major personal issues. Our team is playing well with a great spirit amongst the squad. Why ruin that?

 

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More runs for Vince and Wright in the lions match today. 102 for Vince and 50 odd for Billings. With the exception of Malan, they are a class above the other lions.

Dawson had another good game. 41 and another tidy bowling display. I would say that his and Malan's are the reputations most enhanced by the UAE tour. Tom Curran had good figures again today also, but he hasn't played all of the matches. He looks like the best bowler outside of the full England squad though.

 

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Another 50 for Dawid Malan. Amazing winter for him. Must be in the mix for both world t20 and summer internationals.

Westley fails again. I would say that his reputation has probably been damage by the lions tour, despite bowling pretty well.

 

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Malan's doing well but it's difficult to see a place for him in a t20 side that hopefully includes (if all fit), Root, Buttler, Stokes, Ali and so on. Maybe he could be in the squad.

 

[_Sam_]

Malan's doing well but it's difficult to see a place for him in a t20 side that hopefully includes (if all fit), Root, Buttler, Stokes, Ali and so on. Maybe he could be in the squad.

To get in the squad he'd have to replace either Billings (who would be backup keeper so presumably not) or Vince (who has had a good start and is also currently piling up runs in the UAE) so I can't see him making it past the preliminary squad really unless there's an injury. Then you'd assume he'd be the first backup if it was a batsman.

 

[_Sam_]

Now the tour is over here are the full stats from the England Lions ODI and T20 series against Pakistan in the UAE if anyone's interested :

T20

ODI

 

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Now the tour is over here are the full stats from the England Lions ODI and T20 series against Pakistan in the UAE if anyone's interested :

T20

ODI

Batting

Billings has shown why he's a full England international and not just a player trying to break in. He has been very good in both formats. England are very fortunate to have 3 quality keeping options in limited overs cricket, and Billings may find himself in third place for a little while.

Dawid Malan will be the player whose reputation has enhanced the most on the tour. If you look at his Middlesex stats, he does well in all three formats. Hopefully this lions tour will put pressure on Whittaker and co to pick him. I'd actually like to see him in the test side.

James Vince had a dreadful time before Christmas, but has come back strong in the one dayers. I reckon he probably needed that in order to keep himself in the frame for a world t20 spot. He may be fighting over two places with Billings and Bairstow.

Liam Dawson looks to have really taken his game up a few levels. He hasn't got amazing batting stats, but he was coming in at the end of a lot of the innings' and finishing well.

The biggest disappointment of the tour has to be Tom Westley. His form was so bad at three, he was demoted to number seven today. Still didn't score anything. He will have gone way down the pecking order.

Bell-Drummond, Whiteley, Foakes and Clarke didn't get too many chances. But they're all young and they'll get their turn.

Bowling

I don't think any bowlers have come away from the tour being contenders to get into the world t20 squad, but there were some good performances. Tom Curran was with ought doubt the strongest seamer. Very economical in t20 cricket and taking wickets in one dayers. I wouldn't be surprised if he plays for England in one of the formats in 2016.

Jake Ball looked decent in spells, but was very expensive for a lot tour.

Craig Overton continued his pattern of form with Somerset. He has very impressive first class numbers, but always seems to be very expensive with the white ball. His brother Jamie looked good before injury ended his tour.

I think Roland-Jones has been confirmed as a good county pro but not an international bowler. I've watched him lots at lord's and I can't see him playing for England.

Dissapointingly, Stephen Parry wasn't given many opportunities in the tour. I don't know whether that was because of team balance or because he wasn't looking good in training, but his world t20 spot is under threat now- largely down to the fact that two batsmen did a very good job with the ball. Westley was tidy, but Liam Dawson had figures that any spinner would be pleased with.

The lions normally have one or two 4 day matches during the summer. I'd like to see the following team.

1. Alex Lees
2. Nick Browne
3. Dawid Malan
4. Sam Northeast
5. Jack Leaning
6. Sam Billings
7. Adil Rashid
8. David Willey
9. Tom Curran
10. James Harris
11. Jamie Overton

 

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To get in the squad he'd have to replace either Billings (who would be backup keeper so presumably not) or Vince (who has had a good start and is also currently piling up runs in the UAE) so I can't see him making it past the preliminary squad really unless there's an injury. Then you'd assume he'd be the first backup if it was a batsman.

Yeah, I'd go with that logic. Did the Lions beat Pakistan A ?

 

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Yeah, I'd go with that logic. Did the Lions beat Pakistan A ?

Lost.

 

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Don't know when England are finalising their WC squad, but there are a few guys making a late push by playing in the Pakistan Super League.

English Players

Kevin Pietersen
Luke Wright
Sam Billings
James Vince
Chris Jordan
Dawid Malan
Ravi Bopara


Bopara seems to be nowhere near the team anymore. Still think he's do a good job in subcontinental conditions.

 

[Givemeahug786]

Thanks samP
I am always interested in all activities of Malan,tom curran ,vince,dawson and billings.probably you knows about Jason Roy , he is injured before tomorrows first game.MGMT could send Ali to open with Hales.

Roy not joins for practice today with team members.I wish MALAN calls for next game or so.

 

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I reckon the selectors have told James Vince that if he scores early season runs, the number 3 spot is his. Big of him to turn down an IPL contract, when he's never been part of a test squad to date.

 

[dp458]

I reckon the selectors have told James Vince that if he scores early season runs, the number 3 spot is his. Big of him to turn down an IPL contract, when he's never been part of a test squad to date.

Id be inclined to agree, but he had an awful season in the championship last yesr

 

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Id be inclined to agree, but he had an awful season in the championship last yesr

I get the impression Bayliss doesn't go for county stats. Just goes on what he sees. I think Vince is someone he's got a lot of time for. Also, I think Lions runs will count for more than county runs. Vince normally performs every time he puts on a lions shirt.