England tour of South Africa 09/10

[McLOVIN]

Wow! A tied test match! Rare or what :laugh Don't worry I get what you're saying.

tie draw "=" same difference

 

[Owzat]

Nice to see our Luke get a test call up.

Depends whether you're happier seeing one of your favourite players in the side or whether you'd prefer to see the team have the best chance of success. Quite often the two are incompatible.

 

[Sureshot]

He's had an excellent season and is a very good cricketer. I've said before that I've expected him to play test cricket within two years. (Earlier this season iirc)

 

[aditya123]

tie draw "=" same difference

A tied test has only happened twice/thrice in the history of test cricket. You get draws in every test seres. Is`nt that quite big a difference? A tied test has to surely be an exciting game of test cricket while a draw `need not` be of the highest quality. So a tie is definitely `not equal to` a draw.

 

[McLOVIN]

ok what does tie mean in cricket?

see usually draw means tie...

Draw (tie), a result in competitions where there is either no winner or multiple winners

i see it now, b/c in test cricket draw doesnt mean both teams made same amount of runs, where in other cases draw means 1-1.

then whats tie in cricket?

man its soo confusing!

MacLovin added 1 Minutes and 40 Seconds later...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draw_(tie) found it!

Cricket: Cricket makes a clear distinction between a tie and a draw, which are two different possible results of a game.
A tie is the identical result that occurs when each team has scored the same number of runs after their allotted innings. This is very rare in Test cricket and has happened only twice in its long history, but they are slightly more commonplace in limited-overs matches.
A draw is the inconclusive result that occurs when the allotted playing time for the game expires without the teams having completed their innings. This is relatively common, occurring in 20-30% of Test matches. Limited-overs matches cannot be drawn, although they can end with a no result if abandoned because of weather or other factors.

 

[Sureshot]

Not really, a tie is you've completed both your innings, and have got the same runs. A draw is when the innings have failed to be completed.

 

[Howsie]

South Africa have named their 20/20 and one day teams:

South Africa ODI squad: Graeme Smith (capt), Hashim Amla, Johan Botha, Mark Boucher, AB de Villiers, JP Duminy, Jacques Kallis, Charl Langeveldt, Ryan McLaren, Albie Morkel, Wayne Parnell, Alviro Petersen, Dale Steyn, Lonwabo Tsotsobe, Roelof van der Merwe

Twenty20 squad: Graeme Smith (capt), Yusuf Abdulla, Loots Bosman, Johan Botha, Mark Boucher (wk), AB de Villiers, JP Duminy, Jacques Kallis, Heino Kuhn (wk), Charl Langeveldt, Ryan McLaren, Albie Morkel, Wayne Parnell, Dale Steyn, Roelof van der Merwe

Herschelle Gibbs is the big name missing, Ntini hasn't made the squad either but that isn't a big surprise.

 

[mdoggie]

Great to see Langeveldt back, he has being playing brilliantly. It will be intresting what the bowling line up will look like. Parnell will stuggle to keep his place with Langeveldt back but the selectors may choose to go for Parnell for his wicket taking ability, Morkel has got a long way to go before he can be considered a batsman and not an Allrounder.

 

[Ayub 95]

Really intrested were Kuhn will be batting for the t20's. Will Boucher play and Kuhn play as Specialist Batsman. Albie Morkel pure batsman = Utter fail. Although he scored a 100 today doesn't mean anything.
Likely squad:
1. Smith (c)
2. Kallis
3. De Villers
4. Duminy
5. Peterson (out of posistion, hopes he gets runs)
6. A Morkel
7. Boucher
8. Van der Merwe
9. Botha
10. Steyn
11. Langeveldt

 

[shirazu]

SA look a little thin in the middle order here, although their problems are nothing like England's. Kind of expect England to get crushed in this series...

 

[Owzat]

Not really, a tie is you've completed both your innings, and have got the same runs. A draw is when the innings have failed to be completed.

Absolutely. If it helps................

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Result_(cricket)


Tie
See also: Tied Test, List of tied One-day Internationals

The result of a match is a tie when the scores are equal at the conclusion of play, but only if the side batting last has completed its innings (i.e. all innings are completed, or, in limited-overs cricket, the set number of overs has been played or play is terminally stopped by weather or bad light). This is unusual, and in the history of Test cricket has happened only twice:

West Indies (453 & 284) tied with Australia (505 & 232) in 1960.
Australia (574-7d & 170-5d) tied with India (397 & 347) in 1986.
In some forms of one-day cricket, such as Twenty20, a bowl-out (similar to a penalty shoot-out in football) is used to decide a result that would otherwise be a tie.

You cannot have a draw in an ODI, if both sides have not completed their overs or enough to constitute a match (if rain affected), then it is "No Result". This happens more often than I'd like to see because the authorities take too little notice of forecasts and one side bats 30-50 overs and it leaves the other side too little time to bat the minimum 20 overs to produce a positive result (or Tie) ie where two sides between them bat 40+ overs, but one side hasn't time to reach the minimum 20.

 

[Paki007]

England will crush the africans!!!!!

 

[Ayub 95]

England will crush the africans!!!!!

More like the reverse in all forms of the games this summer/winter

 

[barmyarmy]

Can't believe the first test isn't til 16 December and yet the tour starts in 2 weeks time.

 

[Ayub 95]

Can't believe the first test isn't til 16 December and yet the tour starts in 2 weeks time.

Usually over in SA they start with the ODI tours but in recent times they started with the tests. Could it put off Smith and co?