England tour to South Africa December 2015/February 2016

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Eng team for 50-over warm-up:
Hales, Roy, Taylor, Morgan, Buttler, Moeen, Bairstow, Rashid, Willey, Jordan, Topley

Stokes, Root, Broad and Woakes sitting out but expected to came back for the first ODI. Who will they replace? I was thinking Root for Taylor, Stokes for Bairstow, Broad for Topley and Woakes.....

The fact they're resting Woakes suggests he'll play the opening game. In SA we'll probably not need two spinners, so probably Woakes for Rashid. I think Bayliss' long term plan is for Jordan and Woakes to bowl at the death. Then people like Finn and Broad can be wicket takers in the middle overs.

Probable team for 1st ODI

1. Roy
2. Hales
3. Root
4. Morgan
5. Stokes
6. Buttler
7. Ali
8. Willey
9. Woakes
10. Jordan
11. Broad

Incredible batting depth. I think they'll want to rest Root, Stokes, Ali and Broad at some stage in the series, so Taylor, Bairstow, Rashid and Toppey will all get their chance.

Just looking at the warm up team, England have only picked 5 bowlers with no part timers. I hope non of them get injured.

 

[Markkkkk]

*cough* Taylor > Morgan + Roy *cough*

 

[_Sam_]

Well this has the makings of an awkward selection meeting with Bairstow having just hit 58 off 30 balls...

 

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Well this has the makings of an awkward selection meeting with Bairstow having just hit 58 off 30 balls...

Yeah. Taylor and Bairstow have put a lot of pressure on Bayliss to pick them. You'd imagine that Taylor has to play. Jason Roy is probably the weakest of the players expected to start. I wonder if they'd think about opening with Ali again, or promoting Root up to partner Hales. Then they could get Taylor in at 3.

I honestly don't know how Bairstow fits in though. Good man to have as a sub.

That long England batting lineup really helped us out today. Almost 130 runs from the last 10 overs. People like Jordan and Willey could destroy bowlers in the closing overs.

 

[dp458]

Yeah. Taylor and Bairstow have put a lot of pressure on Bayliss to pick them. You'd imagine that Taylor has to play. Jason Roy is probably the weakest of the players expected to start. I wonder if they'd think about opening with Ali again, or promoting Root up to partner Hales. Then they could get Taylor in at 3.

I honestly don't know how Bairstow fits in though. Good man to have as a sub.

That long England batting lineup really helped us out today. Almost 130 runs from the last 10 overs. People like Jordan and Willey could destroy bowlers in the closing overs.

Id go with on current form

Root
Ali
Taylor
Morgan
Buttler
Bairstow
Stokes
Rashid
Jordan
Woakes
Topley

NOt saying they will though

 

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Id go with on current form

Root
Ali
Taylor
Morgan
Buttler
Bairstow
Stokes
Rashid
Jordan
Woakes
Topley

NOt saying they will though

I think you'd have to pick Broad and Willey if you're going on form. Woakes is in shocking form.

I'm not sure they should drop both Roy and Hales. England have done well when they've opened.

 

[dp458]

I think you'd have to pick Broad and Willey if you're going on form. Woakes is in shocking form.

I'm not sure they should drop both Roy and Hales. England have done well when they've opened.

True i was kinda getting confused with what i think they will do, woakes did well in the uae, as did roy, hales hasnt really done enough in ODIs though

What Id like to see personally is
Ali
Roy/Hales
Taylor
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Rashid
Woakes
Willey
Topley

I dont think Broad should even be considered for the ODI/T20i team
YOu cant drop Taylor and its very harsh on Bairstow, but the team has a lot of bowling options and bats very deep, which allows very aggresive batting
Cmon any one of Willey Woakes or Rashid at 10 is probably the deeepest line up you could ever have
Finn would come straight in for Willey for me, and id be keeping Wood out of the ODI team also, he hasnt done great and should be kept rested up for Tests
Jordon for me although he has done alright, im not convinced enough by him


My T20 team would be basically the same as well, but no Taylor as i dont think you can have bith him and root, and maybe the other of Roy/Hales and Moeen slides down to 6 and Buttler to 5 or BAirstow or Billings or another hitter comes in, not Vince though

 

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Just found out that James Taylor averages 63 in ODIs in his last 10 matches. Think he'll have to start.

Was just watching some of his innings highlights from today. He reminds me so much of Collingwood. Particularly when he comes down the track and drags the ball through mid-wicket. Doesn't always look that pretty, but it's very effective.

 

[stefan]

I guess with the squad SA has picked we will go with this:

1.Amla
2.QDK
3.Faf
4.RR
5.AB
6.Miller
7.Duminy
8.Morris
9.Radaba
10.Morkel
11.Tahir

Could play behardien or wiese instead of one of miller or rr.

Proteas ODI squad v England

AB de Villiers (Titans, captain), Kyle Abbott (Dolphins), Hashim Amla (Cape Cobras), Farhaan Behardien (Titans), Quinton de Kock (Titans), JP Duminy (Cape Cobras), Faf du Plessis (Titans), Imran Tahir (Dolphins), David Miller (Dolphins), Morne Morkel (Titans), Chris Morris (Titans), Kagiso Rabada (Highveld Lions), Rilee Rossouw (Knights), Marchant de Lange (Titans), David Wiese (Titans)

Wiese added to Proteas squad | Sport24

 

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I guess with the squad SA has picked we will go with this:

1.Amla
2.QDK
3.Faf
4.RR
5.AB
6.Miller
7.Duminy
8.Morris
9.Radaba
10.Morkel
11.Tahir

Could play behardien or wiese instead of one of miller or rr.



Wiese added to Proteas squad | Sport24

Would they really go in with that bowling attack? 4.5 bowlers.

 

[stefan]

Would they really go in with that bowling attack? 4.5 bowlers.

Done it before and used ab as the 6th bowler.

 

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Done it before and used ab as the 6th bowler.

In which case, I'm pretty confident we'll win.

 

[_Sam_]

Jason Roy possibly out of the first ODI, would make selection a tad easier!

 

[stefan]

In which case, I'm pretty confident we'll win.

Will see they may play either behardien or wiese as the number 7 and drop one of rr/miller.

Generally believe its batsman that win odi's/t20's so not overly worried whichever way they go personally.

 

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Will see they may play either behardien or wiese as the number 7 and drop one of rr/miller.

Generally believe its batsman that win odi's/t20's so not overly worried whichever way they go personally.

Definitely agree with that in t20 cricket, but I think you need 50 overs of proper bowling in ODIs. Englandchave become a much better team since Stokes and Ali have been in the team, thus allowing us to play either 5 or 6 bowlers.[DOUBLEPOST=1454362343][/DOUBLEPOST]

Jason Roy possibly out of the first ODI, would make selection a tad easier!

If there's ever a convenient injury, this is it. I think he may have missed out anyway. Solves the 'how do we get Taylor into the team?'problem.