English Football Thread 2012/2013

Who will win the 2012/13 Premier League?

  • Manchester City

    Votes: 9 25.0%
  • Manchester Utd

    Votes: 19 52.8%
  • Arsenal

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Spurs

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Newcastle

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • Chelsea

    Votes: 6 16.7%
  • Everton

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Total voters
    36
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My still perspective is its now even but we would fancy more than our rivals now but still 2 games to go 1 draw and cup is theirs so i hope guys dont get over confidence and stay on earth and do what they basically doing in recent weeks play good football and please mancini keep that balotelli out.
 
MAN UTD Need To Buy 2 Good Defenders In Summer Transfer Window And Atleast One Midfielder And Kick Smalling

lol at needing defenders. The defence is absolutely fine. Look at how much Evans has matured in Vidic's absence, and Smalling is clearly a very talented player.

The midfield is clearly lacking though. They needed a central midfielder last season and things have only got worse. A modric style player needs to be signed but also a work horse needs to be signed as well. You could see how much Utd missed Fletcher last night. City had Toure (who was insanely good) bossing the midfield, and Utd had 3 immobile players in midfield, 2 of which were in their late 30s.

Also Rooney can fearsome tweak off. I'm sick of him. He holds the club hostage every season to get new contracts yet has gone missing whenever the club has needed him this season. He's only been good enough in a handful of matches this season, and this inconsistency isn't anything new. Meanwhile Berbatov and Hernandez are unused subs...
 
Lol where is that KBC i would love to have him here :lol:lol and i hope his sig will change soon
 
MAN UTD Need To Buy 2 Good Defenders In Summer Transfer Window And Atleast One Midfielder And Kick Smalling

Nothing wrong with the defence. Smalling is young - he made a mistake yes, but he's also had many fantastic games for us - and for England. Jones' situation is similar to Smalling's - maybe he'd be better as a defensive midfielder. Vidic - we all know about Vidic. City can bleat all they like about how if they'd had Tevez they'd be clear, but we can say the same about Vidic - and as I said before, Vidic was missing because he was injured, not because he was acting like a child for four months. Then there's Evans, who's come on in leaps and bounds, and Ferdinand isn't quite finished yet either. Evra's still got some left, and the Brazilian twins (at least one of them) will improve with experience. You can't place the entire blame for the defeat on Smalling's head - the entire team was to blame. Not one of them was on it, and against a team like City, that's not going to get you anywhere.

No - it's in the midfield where we need some work. All we need is some midfield steel (we've never replaced Keano) and a world class playmaker (Scholsey can't go on forever). The wings are looking in great shape - Valencia, Young, Rooney can play wide, Giggs - who knows how long he'll be around for(!) and even Park can do a job there - but not when he's barely kicked a football in months; Mr Ferguson, Sir, with all respect, you got that one spectacularly wrong. Another thing, you know the team were sent for a relaxation trip to a spa or something? I think it relaxed them too bloody much! They looked completely unfocused - I think that trip might well have been a mistake as well.

To coin a rather ironic phrase, given City's next opponents: 'They've still got to go to Newcastle and get something and...and... I'll tell you what.... I'll love it if we beat them, love it!!' Cue the Fergie mind games to get Newcastle all riled up. :D Indeed, Newcastle are due to unveil a statue of the late, great Sir Bobby Robson before the City game - if that doesn't inspire them, nothing will. It'll do our cause some good if they can get a result from the Chelsea game, so they'll go into the City game feeling as though the CL is within reach.

I am confident that Newcastle will get something out of the game. Sure, City are back on form, especially at home, but away, apart from the Norwich game, I think they're vulnerable. They will need to bring their A game to St James' Park - not the performance they provided against Wolves who, if they didn't give the ball away so much and so easily, could easily have got something from the game.

That sodding 4-4 against Everton... God. :facepalm

Edit: Oh - and De Jong? Thanks for crocking one of the best young English strikers who will probably now miss the Euros, not to mention the rest of the season. Sir Alex, it's time for Dimitar Berbatov. Hernandez doesn't play well when he starts. Rooney and Berbatov up front for the rest of the season for me.
 
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If newcastle played like they played against wigan and we played like we did against our rivals will certainly ease our cause..
 
He holds the club hostage every season to get new contracts yet has gone missing whenever the club has needed him this season. He's only been good enough in a handful of matches this season, and this inconsistency isn't anything new. Meanwhile Berbatov and Hernandez are unused subs...

To be fair to Rooney, no one in the team turned up yesterday - and you cannot expect him to carry the whole team, not against City. You might get away with it against a lower table team. Truly, that was one of the worst 'big match' performances I've ever seen from Utd and I have seen some real stinkers. The 4-0 vs Barcelona around 1994. The away match vs Galatasaray in the same year. This one tops both of them put together. Awful. City played like champions last night and while I will never agree with how the team was put together, the team itself as it is deserves my congratulations - if they don't stumble in the finishing straight. It's been that kinda season. ;)

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If newcastle played like they played against wigan and we played like we did against our rivals will certainly ease our cause..

Indeed. If this game was at the 'Utd' stadium instead of Newcastle's ground, then we all may as well just go home. I wish Newcastle didn't have a gruelling task at Stamford Bridge first. Oh well, that's what the fixture list spluttered out.
 
Edit: Oh - and De Jong? Thanks for crocking one of the best young English strikers who will probably now miss the Euros, not to mention the rest of the season. Sir Alex, it's time for Dimitar Berbatov. Hernandez doesn't play well when he starts. Rooney and Berbatov up front for the rest of the season for me.

So is it that bad huh? :facepalm good thing for us is that the season is nearly over.



Dont think Rooney was at guilt, sure he could have played better, but he wasnt in his best position as well. His form this year has indicated that he plays better with another partner than as a loan man.
 
So is it that bad huh? :facepalm good thing for us is that the season is nearly over.



Dont think Rooney was at guilt, sure he could have played better, but he wasnt in his best position as well. His form this year has indicated that he plays better with another partner than as a loan man.

Welbeck left the ground in a protective boot - so it's definitely looking very bad for the rest of the season at the very least. And yes, you're right - Rooney is not a lone front man. Never was, never will be and I hope the new England boss, whoever it turns out to be, realises that fact. As I said before, it's got to be Rooney and Berbatov for the rest of the season. I have a lot of respect for Dimitar - so many other players would be moaning and whining left right and centre (imagine Tevez in a similar situation) if they were permanently docked to the bench the way he's been. If he wants to leave, then there will be no hard feelings from me.

Sir Alex just completely got it wrong last night. Rooney's our best player and he plays him wide. Valencia and Young warming the bench while Park starts - a guy who's hardly kicked a football for months. Welbeck, a man who has developed fantastically this season warming the bench, when he should've been up front with Rooney. Giggs on one side, Valencia/Young on the other and Rooney up front with Welbeck!! In the first twenty minutes, we looked very good - had we had Welbeck, Valencia and/or Young going at them in that time, who knows. One thing's for sure, I can't see Valencia or Young skying that chance that Park had. That was the shot of a man who was completely out of touch. Give that to Valencia or Young, it probably would've been 1-1 and we wouldn't be having this conversation. And my avatar wouldn't look so... strange. ;)

City better win the league, otherwise Liam Gallagher, who crashed the press conference last night, will look extremely stupid. He'll definitely need some 'Cigarettes and Alcohol' - older members will know what I mean. ;)
 
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But really that smashing at OT is proving vital now as goal difference..
His tactics backfire first he say he will go for win and then play that defensive formation 5 in midfield..how can u go for win when your formation is defensive
 
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But really that smashing at OT is proving vital now as goal difference..

Even without that, I still think you'd be three or four goals clear. By us dropping those points at Wigan, something switched in the City team - it was like the door was open again and they used Toure to stick his shoulder into it. ;)

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But really that smashing at OT is proving vital now as goal difference..
His tactics backfire first he say he will go for win and then play that defensive formation 5 in midfield..how can u go for win when your formation is defensive

I just can't figure it out. I reckon he was playing for the draw - which isn't like him at all.
 
and your 3 or 4 midfielder cant get the ball from toure he was playing against kids midfielder by looking
 
It's not just that - if our passing was what it should've been, we would've been raiding down your flanks as freely as you were raiding down ours. Every time we had the chance of a breakout, we gave the ball away. I reckon they were still too relaxed from the spa break.

Sir Alex Ferguson will take his players to Cardiff on Thursday to escape the pressure building up around their Barclays Premier League showdown with Manchester City.
Ferguson has not told his squad yet but they are set to leave early in the morning for a two-day stay at the Vale Resort, a golf and spa retreat in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Manchester United are also believed to have been given access to Cardiff City's training facilities nearby and will return on Sunday, 24 hours before facing City at the Etihad Stadium.
Ferguson organised a similar break at St Andrews before United's last Monday night game against Blackburn at the start of this month.

The Old Trafford boss felt some of his younger players were feeling the pressure and was delighted with the outcome as United won 2-0 at Ewood Park to go five points clear at the top.
Ferguson said: 'The little trip to St Andrews was fantastic. The players loved it. It helped with the unity of the players. When players stay together, they become a team very easily.'
United's lead is now down to three points and City will replace them at the top on goal difference if they win on Monday.

Euch, sorry - that needs some paragraphs...done.
 
@Steve: Newcastle have only lost TWICE in 18 home games this season & only FTS in 3 of them IIRC. A little bit of encouragement I guess. :p
 
@Steve: Newcastle have only lost TWICE in 18 home games this season & only FTS in 3 of them IIRC. A little bit of encouragement I guess. :p

Yeah, thanks for that Blues! They do have a great home record - and they've already beaten us 3-0. It will be an extremely tough game for City - but at the same time, we've got to get our eye back on the ball with Swansea! Underestimating them will be very dangerous and it would be the most annoying thing in the world if we slip up against Swansea and City slip up against Newcastle - depending of course on the nature of the slipups. It's easy to forget we're level with them, because of that damned goal difference.
 
I honestly think city will draw at best at Newcastle , but I can see utd struggling at Sunderland.

Gonna go to the wire,, to close to call,, just found a very large fence and I'm gonna sit on it.!
 
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