English Football Thread 2013/14

Who will win the Premiership?


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Destroy our CL campaign... we registered a squad list of 23 players for 13-14 and used 21, and we were never going to spend more than the ?60m that UEFA have limited us to, Mangala, Fernando and Sagna (our top and only targets) aren't going to cost more than that.

I am sorry but I have got to disagree with you on that. FCP look like they are going to sell Mangala only at his release clause which is 50M and since Fernando signed a new contract , he will cost at least 20M. So that makes it 70M per se. Then you have Sagna and the wages of all the 3. City have some restriction on their wages as well iirc.
 
Yeah we'll see how it goes.

If we fail to defend the PL title, it won't be because we had much less to spend, it'll be because we weren't good enough to.

I am sorry but I have got to disagree with you on that. FCP look like they are going to sell Mangala only at his release clause which is 50M and since Fernando signed a new contract , he will cost at least 20M. So that makes it 70M per se. Then you have Sagna and the wages of all the 3. City have some restriction on their wages as well iirc.

Yes, but Barry(?120k) and Lescott(?94k) are leaving on a free, Richards(?60k) and Sinclair(?55k) will most likely be sold, with Rodwell(?55k) possibly going out on loan or sold, so that frees up our books.

As far as I'm aware, Mangala and Fernando together won't cost more than our transfer spending limit(?49m), but I don't know who your sources are.
 
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I know this one is old , but if they wanted 50M in 2013 , they surely wont reduce their demand after a year in which he has grown , I guess?

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And Porto have a reputation of playing hardball , when it comes to selling their players.

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Arsenal : Fabianski, Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Gibbs, Arteta, Ramsey, Cazorla, Ozil, Podolski, Giroud. Subs : Szczesny, Vermaelen, Rosicky, Wilshere, Monreal, Flamini, Sanogo


Hull : McGregor; Davies, Bruce, Chester, Rosenior, Elmohamady, Livermore, Huddlestone, Meyler, Quinn, Fryatt
 
I know this one is old , but if they wanted 50M in 2013 , they surely wont reduce their demand after a year in which he has grown , I guess?

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And Porto have a reputation of playing hardball , when it comes to selling their players.

I don't know what that's about, but we were close to signing them both in January for ?35m and I know Fernando has gone on to sign an extension since then, but I don't see it affecting the price too much, because reports following that claimed he signed only because assurances were given that he would be sold in the summer to the highest bidder.
 
Curtis Davies & Huddlestone real unlucky not to at least be on the England world cup stand-by list.
 
Best value for money season tickets in the prem. Thoughts?
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Patrick Vieira said:
We don't want to send our players on loan. We want to keep them with us, to give them the right education and the challenge that they need. When we send young players on loan, they are going to clubs where managers need to win games and the only focus is to win games. It's really difficult for them to develop because if they make one or two mistakes they are not going to play any more.

In our football club making a mistake is part of the development. So we need the right challenges to help them develop. That's why I believe the B league will be a massive step up to improve the development of young players.
Yeah!

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Chelsea's top talent scout also made some remarks recently voicing displeasure with the loan system, specifically the way one of the Blues' top young talents was handled this season

Piet de Visser said:
Lucas is an attacking midfielder, but was misused on the left. Moreover, the supervision in Arnhem is not good.

They get an apartment, a telephone and a car. They need to sort it out. At one o'clock in the afternoon training has ended and they sit alone in their apartment. Those guys must be supervised daily.

In addition, the error made by Vitesse was to pick up four new players in the winter. That was not good for the group. I'm talking to Lucas and Chelsea soon and I want to know exactly what happened. Vitesse need to cherish this kind of talent.
Here , Lucas means Lucas Piazon , the young Brazilian attacking mid/winger.
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At present, the gulf in quality between the U21 league and the Premier League is massive, and very few young players are going to be able to make that leap without going out on loan to a club playing football at a level somewhere in the middle. Oddly enough, top youngsters make the jump fairly regularly in both Spain and Germany, two countries that allow B teams into the lower tiers.

With a B team system, top clubs would have the option of allowing their youth to continue working at their world class facilities while ensuring that these players were able to compete at an appropriate level while training with top coaches and top players. Remember that stretch this season where Chelsea's strikers were all either misfiring or injured? How nice would it have been for Jose Mourinho to have a guy like Patrick Bamford available for recall, to give him a shot with the big boys that didn't require him to be a part of the Chelsea first team for the remainder of the season? How great would it have been for Tomas Kalas to get the sort of first team use he did this year, but to actually have a competitive environment in which to play when there wasn't going to be a place for him within the first team squad? A B team wouldn't provide Premier League level competition every week, but it would certainly be better than trotting these guys out against a bunch of teenagers with no professional experience in order to earn one or two chances on the big stage.


Dyke's suggestion of B teams didn't go over particularly well with many in England, most of whom would fear for the history and tradition of the English game should such drastic, senseless changes take place. Lost in all of that is that the vast majority of those making these complaints probably watched less than an hour of this sacred lower tier football this season, or that these same folks will inevitably open up on the English development system when the national team takes an early flight home from Brazil. Like the addition of goal line technology to the game, the B team would make English football better.

Note : The 3rd part is not my work , I took this from a fan blog.
 
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that's one thing I can't stand about arsenal, they go on and on about how they're not like man city or chelsea and they buy within their budget etc etc, but they rip their fans off something awful. nearly a grand for the cheapest season ticket?
 
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