English Football Thread 2013/14

[War]

Manchester United can't underestimate Alex Ferguson's influence, look at Liverpool's demise after Kenny Dalglish | Mail Online

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Terrible premise for an article. Liverpool went form shankly to paisely to fagan to dalglish with little issue.

Obviously Fagan wasn't there that long.

The premise of the article is basically "new manager might not succeed"

Which is up there with "The sea is blue and KP masturbates to clips of himself batting" with things that are so far beyond obvious they need little said about them.

 

[SpitfiresKent]

BBC Sport - Manchester United: Robbie Savage says 12 players should go

^A very interesting read here people. I've always been a fan of Savage as a pundit, he says it how it is.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

At the start of the season Robbie Savage thought West Ham would finish above Everton.

Just saying.

 

[MasterBlaster76]

BBC Sport - Manchester United: Robbie Savage says 12 players should go

^A very interesting read here people. I've always been a fan of Savage as a pundit, he says it how it is.

That's a great article, and he's probably got a point.

 

[SpitfiresKent]

At the start of the season Robbie Savage thought West Ham would finish above Everton.

Just saying.

He still speaks his mind though.

 

[Haarithan]

Without having given the article a read yet, I'll just try guessing the 12:

Cleverley, Evra, Anderson, Young, Giggs, Ferdinand, Kagawa (shame), Vidic, Buttner, Fletcher, Welbeck, Fellaini

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The 15 who should stay
De Gea, Lindegaard, Rafael, Evra, Jones, Evans, Vidic, Carrick, Fletcher, Kagawa, Zaha, Januzaj, Rooney, Van Persie and Welbeck

Thoroughly disagree with Evra. Lost count of the number of times he's been done in by opposition wingers this season. Time and again an opposition threat against Utd begins from his end. Simply has to go.

The other names on that list have their own reasons and I probably agree.

 

[thedon5]

That's more or less just him picking out the half decent players, but there is no reason why they should keep a lot of them as they can improve on some of those players by getting players that would fit into the system better for similar prices.

I don't think Vidic should stay either, he's fading like hell and he's probably on huge wages. If his contract was longer they could've gotten a decent fee too. I would like to see what he could do with Thiago Silva at PSG.

Evra is obviously a big no-no.

Kagawa I think doesn't fit at Man Utd and they should sell him.

Do I need to say why Welbeck should go.

van Persie is his injury-prone self yet again, they could really cash in on him at the end of the season.

Fletcher's stomach is a big worry, though they can't really cash in on him.

 

[Ohm]

In early minutes of Hull City vs Chelsea game, I thought Jose is using his regular defensive technique for the first half. But along with that tactic, could you see sloppy play? Luiz, Terry, Oscar weren't playing seriously. By the way, what a show in second half. As usual our players didn't fail to take lead in second half. Finally, Torres is back in form () ? Hazard was just awesome for 90 minutes.

 

[War]

David Moyes is fighting battle for home-grown managers at Manchester United - Jamie Carragher column | Mail Online

 

[thedon5]

Looks like Nasri will be joining his old mate Walcott on an early vacation...

 

[SpitfiresKent]

Am I the only one who thinks the ref made a good decision in disallowing Newcastle's equalizer?

 

[Abhas]

^didn't see it, so can't comment, however everyone says it was a clear goal.
Stoke vs Liverpool was incredible. Stoke might feel a bit hard done by the referee there.. They could have had a penalty when skrtel wrestled with someone and ours was a little soft.
It was definitely a game not to miss though.

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Okay, just saw the tiote goal(?). There were a lot of Newcastle players in offside position, and you could argue that they were probably blocking the play, however, it should've been a goal in my opinion.

 

[thedon5]

No way it hit Gouffran even on 100th viewing.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Am I the only one who thinks the ref made a good decision in disallowing Newcastle's equalizer?

I'm not really sure if it was the right decision or not. But people going on as if it's the biggest injustice (pretty hard to think of a funny example that isn't really offensive here) Jimmy Saville got knighted are being daft.