Football Transfers Thread
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puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
You have issues, you really do. At which point have I said Spurs are? Pretty much any opinion I offer you try and relate to Spurs. The world of football is bigger than one club. However, you are wrong. We are currently more attractive than Liverpool because we've finished higher for the last two seasons. Players rarely move for history, they move for money and potential success. Come play for European trophy winner AVB, or come play for ex Swansea manager Rodgers? To someone from outside England, who is more appealing? Come play with Bale, RDV, Sandro, Parker, Vertonghen, Walker... or with Suarez and a fading Gerrard? Downing... Adam... err... quite.
Would you rather move to London, or to Liverpool where you're guaranteed to be burgled at least once a year when you're playing? I get so bored of people using football manager games as potential transfer options
Liverpool have had two bad seasons and have gotten worse. It'll take a brave player to move there at the moment. Borini and Allen are the level of player they currently have to aim for.Also, I believe someone labelled Allen the most talented midfielder they'd worked with... so yeah, wouldn't rule him out yet.
thedon5
Panel of Selectors
You have issues, you really do. At which point have I said Spurs are? Pretty much any opinion I offer you try and relate to Spurs. The world of football is bigger than one club. However, you are wrong. We are currently more attractive than Liverpool because we've finished higher for the last two seasons. Players rarely move for history, they move for money and potential success. Come play for European trophy winner AVB, or come play for ex Swansea manager Rodgers? To someone from outside England, who is more appealing? Come play with Bale, RDV, Sandro, Parker, Vertonghen, Walker... or with Suarez and a fading Gerrard? Downing... Adam... err... quite.
Would you rather move to London, or to Liverpool where you're guaranteed to be burgled at least once a year when you're playing? I get so bored of people using football manager games as potential transfer options
Also, I believe someone labelled Allen the most talented midfielder they'd worked with... so yeah, wouldn't rule him out yet.
In what way was I replying to you specifically? I am relating this to Spurs because Spurs are the other team in the Prem without CL football that have money to spend and are seemingly attracting top talent. What, do you think I am relating this to Spurs just to annoy you
.Who is using football manager games as potential transfer options? I use people who teams are actually linked to. Moutinho, Lloris, Cazorla and Afellay have all been linked to Spurs in recent weeks, and Sahin has been linked to Man Utd and Arsenal, and judging by how recent rumours have gone, any player linked to Arsenal ends up getting linked to Spurs and Inter.
People can say that about any player. It may happen in the future, but currently it is nowhere near true and he is in no way worth even 10 m let alone 15 m. Even Haari agrees that this is poor business, who wouldn't.
No player that has no allegiance to a certain league will have a clear preference of where they want to go. Negotiations matter too, Liverpool can easily at least TRY to compete with Spurs for these players. By your logic, Spurs also shouldn't be going for top European talent and should instead settle with British players, but it doesn't happen that way. There is something seriously wrong with a club that gives top talent the cold shoulder in favour of average British talent.
You have issues if you can't even look into my post right and see why I'm posting it, you surely wouldn't have said I am posting it only to annoy you if I wasn't an Arsenal fan...
thedon5
Panel of Selectors
OK, I didn't see your post on the last page. In reply to that, I'd say certain players would want to leave Madrid if the right offer came along. Someone like Sahin is an exceptional talent, and it is pointless him staying in Madrid as there's just no way he can displace either Xabi Alonso or Sami Khedira in the near future. He struggled incredibly badly last season with injuries anyway, and this has clearly caused his reputation to diminish. He would most likely not be held in the same high regard that he was by Mourinho when he arrived as well.
Afellay the same. It says a lot about your chances in a team, especially at his age when guys like Tello and Cuenca are preferred to you on a regular basis. Clearly he will never amount to much in a team with the likes of David Villa and Alexis Sanchez playing on the wings, with Tello and Cuenca growing fast. He should be having his best years, he can't even get a look in.
Clearly VDV agrees, he's had a nice time at Spurs. Shows how good a player can be coming from Spain. A player with a better attitude could be even better.
Oh and btw, Suarez is a great player, I wouldn't put him in the list of players that would be why you wouldn't move to a club. He is better than any players Spurs have in his position regardless, and you can't say he is a bad player to be around in the dressing room, because you don't know that. There is a reason he is being linked to top clubs, he is quality.
Afellay the same. It says a lot about your chances in a team, especially at his age when guys like Tello and Cuenca are preferred to you on a regular basis. Clearly he will never amount to much in a team with the likes of David Villa and Alexis Sanchez playing on the wings, with Tello and Cuenca growing fast. He should be having his best years, he can't even get a look in.
Clearly VDV agrees, he's had a nice time at Spurs. Shows how good a player can be coming from Spain. A player with a better attitude could be even better.
Oh and btw, Suarez is a great player, I wouldn't put him in the list of players that would be why you wouldn't move to a club. He is better than any players Spurs have in his position regardless, and you can't say he is a bad player to be around in the dressing room, because you don't know that. There is a reason he is being linked to top clubs, he is quality.
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
At which point did I put him in a list of players? I suggested that he's about the only reason anyone would go play at Liverpool these days, and even he could be off sooner rather than later...
Those players who are warming the bench at Real and Barca may well want to move on, but the odds of them going to Liverpool are slim. We got RDV as a team who had Champions League football if you recall, not a team who had spent the season struggling to stay above the rest of the midfield clubs despite heavy investment. If they go anywhere, it'll be top 4 clubs in other league. Potentially Germany or Italy.
Those players who are warming the bench at Real and Barca may well want to move on, but the odds of them going to Liverpool are slim. We got RDV as a team who had Champions League football if you recall, not a team who had spent the season struggling to stay above the rest of the midfield clubs despite heavy investment. If they go anywhere, it'll be top 4 clubs in other league. Potentially Germany or Italy.
thedon5
Panel of Selectors
You mentioned Suarez in the same sentence as Downing and Adam...
You don't have Champions League football now, but you are in with a real shout of Afellay and Cazorla for sure... A bid for Afellay from Lille has even been accepted by Barca, he just wants to assess other options before going there later possibly.
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
I mentioned that if you were moving to Liverpool he was about the only player that would make you consider it... and that the rest of the crop were rubbish bordering on appalling. Since you apparently can't read, maybe read it again 
thedon5
Panel of Selectors
Formulate your sentence better next time maybe..?
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It is also very harsh to say just Gerrard and Suarez are good players at Liverpool. Agger and Skrtel are great too, Lucas has shown his value as well.
You can't say that it is a pleasure to play with someone like Vertonghen or Sandro without mentioning the aforementioned trio.
And clearly, Gerrard is a far better player than VDV, both on the field and off it. VDV seems like an arrogant tool. His attitude at the Euros didn't in any way help shake off this tag.
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It is also very harsh to say just Gerrard and Suarez are good players at Liverpool. Agger and Skrtel are great too, Lucas has shown his value as well.
You can't say that it is a pleasure to play with someone like Vertonghen or Sandro without mentioning the aforementioned trio.
And clearly, Gerrard is a far better player than VDV, both on the field and off it. VDV seems like an arrogant tool. His attitude at the Euros didn't in any way help shake off this tag.
Lee1981
International Coach
Really?
Maybe 5 years ago, not now,
Gerrards game is based now on 50 yard diagonal passes
thedon5
Panel of Selectors
He has tailed off recently, maybe due to his aging and injury, but honestly, so has VDV. If VDV stays next season, Sigurdsson should be the clear favourite for attacking midfield role the two are competing for. A few seasons ago that would've been VDV's for sure.
Gerrard is perhaps the same, but based on the effect he has on the team both on and off the field, I'm sure almost any player in the world would rather play with Gerrard. VDV is clearly an arrogant primadonna, another Robben. Gerrard is not.
Just because Gerrard is fading, doesn't mean you don't want to play with him. Henry came to us last season and all the players were very excited to play alongside him, when in reality he isn't that good any more. Current skill alone shouldn't be how you judge if you want to play with a player.
Gerrard is perhaps the same, but based on the effect he has on the team both on and off the field, I'm sure almost any player in the world would rather play with Gerrard. VDV is clearly an arrogant primadonna, another Robben. Gerrard is not.
Just because Gerrard is fading, doesn't mean you don't want to play with him. Henry came to us last season and all the players were very excited to play alongside him, when in reality he isn't that good any more. Current skill alone shouldn't be how you judge if you want to play with a player.
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
Bit harsh on VDV really. The guy always worked his arse off for us last season, and invariably whenever the tempo needed upping it was him that started closing down further up the pitch and led the team. Not really sure what he did wrong for Holland. Robben was clearly the knobhead
thedon5
Panel of Selectors
His pleas for playing time to the media after the first and second games certainly unsettled the team. Not sure how you missed that, even the commentators spent time talking about it during the matches. Robben was more of an asshole on the field than off it.
Wasn't that great last season at all. IMO he was completely outshone by the guys around him.
Wasn't that great last season at all. IMO he was completely outshone by the guys around him.
ste_mc_efc
Chairman of Selectors
gerrard was fantastic in a poor side in the euros. he's still world class
thedon5
Panel of Selectors
News about Cazorla all over the place. A lot of sources stating a transfer is likely, but none are that solid yet from a very trusted source. This is probably the best there is, stuff about Cazorla at the end:
Radio: Hunter: Real Madrid want Modric to weaken Spurs' position | Radio talkSPORT
Seriously this guy alone has the potential to propel either Arsenal or Spurs to a clear title challenging team, that's how good he is. The two clubs had better get in quick, he would not look at all out of place in Real or Barca, in fact he'd probably be good enough to start fairly often. He's ambidextrous, and can play at AM or either wing.
Don't want to get my hopes up, but I just can't help it. Even more exciting than Arshavin was.
Radio: Hunter: Real Madrid want Modric to weaken Spurs' position | Radio talkSPORT
Seriously this guy alone has the potential to propel either Arsenal or Spurs to a clear title challenging team, that's how good he is. The two clubs had better get in quick, he would not look at all out of place in Real or Barca, in fact he'd probably be good enough to start fairly often. He's ambidextrous, and can play at AM or either wing.
Don't want to get my hopes up, but I just can't help it. Even more exciting than Arshavin was.
MasterBlaster76
ICC Chairman
Apparently, Man Utd have emerged as favourites to sign RvP (that's only the Mirror though) but also that RvP has stated that he'd rather go to Utd than City (that's The Times. The man clearly has taste ).
The thing is - do we really need him? What we have been crying out for over the past few seasons (and I know I sound like a broken record
) is a ball winning midfielder, someone to add some more steel to the midfield!
Another thing - Sir Alex has once again come out in support of the Glazers. Please - before the Glazers, we would've said to Arsenal: '?20m/25m for RvP? Done'. Now, what do we bid? ?10m. That's insulting to Arsenal if you ask me.
Whatever happens, I hope he doesn't end up in Sky Blue next season and despite what he says, and what the Times say, I can't see him in a Utd shirt - at least not straight from Arsenal. Still, you never know. I just think the money would be better spent elsewhere.
).The thing is - do we really need him? What we have been crying out for over the past few seasons (and I know I sound like a broken record
) is a ball winning midfielder, someone to add some more steel to the midfield! Another thing - Sir Alex has once again come out in support of the Glazers. Please - before the Glazers, we would've said to Arsenal: '?20m/25m for RvP? Done'. Now, what do we bid? ?10m. That's insulting to Arsenal if you ask me.
Whatever happens, I hope he doesn't end up in Sky Blue next season and despite what he says, and what the Times say, I can't see him in a Utd shirt - at least not straight from Arsenal. Still, you never know. I just think the money would be better spent elsewhere.
