Grand Prix-F1

[edgarisapimp]

Yea. Great result for Reubens (bad one for Raikkonen, Toyota, and Williams) and especially for Alonso. It's a shame Schumacher had to pick up all of those places due to retirements - he should've had to earn them .

 

[Yorkshire_No1]

It was a great race to watch. Webber ran a blinding race and if it wasn't for his engine he could of easily picked up 2nd if not 1st

 

[Maxkarter]

MS had a supurb race, and he showed everyone how good he is by making so many passes early on in the race. He also showed us how you can pass around Monaco. Hard luck for Kimi and Webber, they were running well as was Rosberg until their retirements.

 

[edgarisapimp]

MS had a supurb race, and he showed everyone how good he is by making so many passes early on in the race. He also showed us how you can pass around Monaco. Hard luck for Kimi and Webber, they were running well as was Rosberg until their retirements.

Who'd he pass on-track that was any good? Passing the Super Aguris and such is no accomplishment. Only reason he finished so high was because so many of the top drivers ended up pulling out.
And yes, very hard luck for Webber and Raikkonen. I'm a bit disappointed - I wanted to see a fight for the victory (even though Alonso winning is fantastic ).

 

[Kev]

For passing you needed to look to Kimi's pass on Webber up the hill, mistake or not nobody passes there! And Fisi's passes when he was about to be lapped, although I'm pretty sure he just closed his eyes and braked far too late

 

[Maxkarter]

Who'd he pass on-track that was any good? Passing the Super Aguris and such is no accomplishment..

The way you are putting things I might as well consider Jenson to be on Super Aguri level. Its not that he passed them, but how and where, he put his nose in and kept it there and went through, the fact remains he showed its possible to pass someone without them having blue flags waved infornt of their noses. Uhm at the end of the race Schumacher was fastest, so his final posision wasnt solely upto retirements but raw speed. Finally, guys dont just hate him because he's good.

 

[Kev]

I hate him because he's a cheat

 

[Sureshot]

I hate him because he rarely has a new rule that affects him.

 

[edgarisapimp]

Finally, guys dont just hate him because he's good.

You are right - but you shouldn't like him because he's good, either. F1 is a relatively new thing for me - last year was my first season of following it. First race, Australia, I thought to myself "I need a driver to support." So with no prior knowledge of the sport (except having heard the name Schumacher dropped around) I decided to support Alonso because he was Spanish and fairly young. Turns out that Alonso finished 3rd that race and later won the championship, but I would still support him anyways. What I mean is, why support someone only beacuse they win? Schumacher's fans can't be in it for his personality (or cheating ).

 

[YOTC]

Here is why you should hate him....

Schumacher's chequered history
By Andrew Benson
Motorsport editor

Michael Schumacher

Michael Schumacher is no stranger to controversy, and his banishment to the back of the grid in Monaco is far from the first time he has been accused of underhand behaviour.

The German's career has been littered with similar incidents, where rivals have accused him of going beyond the bounds of fair play.

Here, we highlight just some of the controversial events in which Schumacher has been involved in F1.

AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX, 1994

With the world championship at stake, Schumacher's Benetton slid wide and into the wall while trying to stay ahead of title rival Damon Hill's Williams.

Damon Hill faces the media after seeing his title hopes collapse in Adelaide in 1994

Schumacher rejoined the track with a damaged car and Hill, who had not seen the German's error, attemped to pass him at the next corner.

Schumacher turned in on the Williams, putting both cars out of the race and sealing his first world title.

Hill wrote in a subsequent book: "There are two things that set Michael apart from the rest of the drivers in Formula One - his sheer talent and his attitude.

"I am full of admiration for the former, but the latter leaves me cold."

EUROPEAN GRAND PRIX 1997

Another title decider, another collision.

Williams driver Jacques Villeneuve would win the championship if he beat Schumacher, now with Ferrari, in the final race of the season at Jerez in Spain.

Michael Schumacher and Ferrari team boss Jean Todt at a news conference after the German was stripped of second place in the 1997 world championship

Heading into the closing stages of the race, Villeneuve was closing on Schumacher and attempted to pass him at the end of the track's back straight.

Again, Schumacher turned in on his rival, but this time it backfired.

Schumacher's car was left beached in a gravel trap, while Villeneuve continued to finish third and win the title.

F1's governing body later stripped Schumacher of his second place in the championship, although it allowed all his results from that season to stand in the record books.

ARGENTINE GRAND PRIX 1998

David Coulthard fights to control his McLaren after Michael Schumacher pushes him out of the way in Buenos Aires in 1998

Schumacher barged David Coulthard's McLaren out of the lead in the opening laps by forcing his own front wheel inside Coulthard's rear halfway around a hairpin and moving his rival car aside.

To Coulthard's consternation, Schumacher was not punished.

BELGIAN GRAND PRIX 2000

Battling for the lead at 200mph, Schumacher moved aggressively across on Mika Hakkinen's McLaren as the Finn tried to pass.

Their wheels touched, but - fearing an accident - Hakkinen backed off, passing the Ferrari for the lead a lap later.

When the drivers climbed out of their cars after the race, Hakkinen took Schumacher to one side and left him in no doubt that he took a dim view of the Ferrari driver's on-track ethics.

In a news conference a few minutes later, Schumacher denied he had done anything wrong.

EUROPEAN GRAND PRIX 2001

Even Schumacher's brother has felt the sheer force of his determination to win.

Michael Schumacher made a poor start to the 2001 European Grand Prix at Germany's Nurburgring, while brother Ralf was much faster away in his Williams.

To stop his brother passing, Michael veered across the track at him, leaving Ralf with the choice of backing off or risk being forced into the wall. He backed off.

AUSTRIAN GRAND PRIX 2002

Michael Schumacher crosses the line after team-mate Rubens Barrichello moved over to let him past on the last lap in Austria in 2002
Schumacher benefits from team orders to win the 2002 Austrian GP
Ferrari caused outcry when they ordered Schumacher's team-mate Rubens Barrichello to move aside on the last lap, gifting Schumacher victory in a race the Brazilian had dominated.

The team were fined $1m and team orders "contrary to the interests of competition" were later banned from F1.

BRITISH GRAND PRIX 2003

Trying to defend his position from Renault driver Fernando Alonso on the opening lap, Schumacher moved across on the Spaniard at the fastest part of the track.

Although Alonso did not back off, Schumacher continued to move across, forcing half the Renault on to the grass at 190mph.

He escaped punishment.

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One day he could kill someone with his careless driving.

 

[Ritwik]

One day he could kill someone with his careless driving.

Uh oh - some people already hold him to blame (at least partially) for Ayrton Senna's death since it is widely believed that the car Schumi was using to breathe down Senna's neck had been illegal modified.

 

[Kev]

I'll blame schumi for a lot, but its unfair to blame him for senna's tragic accident. There are a number of theories as to the cause of senna's accident, personally I think a combination of cold tyres, some debris from the startline accident and mechanical failure are to blame.

As it says on the bottom of the ticket = "Motorsport is dangerous"

 

[Stephen Bailey]

One day he could kill someone with his careless driving.

As dangerous and stupid some of his antics have been, unless he actually got out the car and physically tried to do it himself, it is highly unlikely an accident nowadays would kill a driver, simply because of how safe the sport is now.

Ironically, the incident that posed the most threat to a drivers health was probably the Adelaide 94 incident, where he went into the tyre wall nose first with the car practically on its side! Back in the early to mid 90's, and to some extent the late 90's (Schumacher broke a leg at Silverstone in 99 in what wasn't the biggest of accidents), incidents like that could quite easily cause injury or worse.

 

[YOTC]

Uh oh - some people already hold him to blame (at least partially) for Ayrton Senna's death since it is widely believed that the car Schumi was using to breathe down Senna's neck had been illegal modified.

What? Senna death had nothing to do with Schumacher, i didn't even mention it, and i have never heard anyone even come up with such bullshit before.

Just like all tragic accidents, its usually a combination of things all coming together at once.

He tries to steal corners which are not his, he pushes opponents out onto the grass, there are many things that can go wrong.

He should have been suspended a long time ago.

Motorsport is not entirely safe, nothing ever is, it's why we still have plane crashes. When you have a hungry driver like JPM who refuses to die down thats when problems arise.

He is a selfish and wreckless driver. Does not deserve any of his accolades.

 

[Sureshot]

From what my dad has told me of the race (too young to really remember) he said there was a big lack of stewards.

Who JPM or Schumi?

Schumi isn't 7 times world champion on pushing people off the track.