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Well Massa isn't really that bad a driver, I think that with the right car he will be quick, but im not too sure if he can win races. Ferrari lost Rubens so they have had to sign someone else, so why not sign a previous test driver? But if the rumors are true we might see Valentino Rossi under the helmet and in a F1 car. But we will have to see how things play out, because there havn't really been any desirable drivers floating about.
 
Maxkarter said:
Well Massa isn't really that bad a driver, I think that with the right car he will be quick, but im not too sure if he can win races. Ferrari lost Rubens so they have had to sign someone else, so why not sign a previous test driver? But if the rumors are true we might see Valentino Rossi under the helmet and in a F1 car. But we will have to see how things play out, because there havn't really been any desirable drivers floating about.

Thnx for answering. Rumors r that Rossi & Kimi would be driving Ferrari in 2007. I dont mind any of these driving for Ferrari but it has to be alongside Schumacher. I think MS certainly have some years in him.

This was all MS has to say after dissapointment @ Italy;
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Deposed Schumacher hands F1 crown to Alonso
For the first time in five years, the phrase 'world champion Michael Schumacher' required another word on Sunday. Former.
The reign of the most successful driver in Formula One history, with 84 wins and a long list of records, came to an end in front of a muted crowd of just 60,000 spectators at Ferrari's spiritual home of Monza.

"This championship is over, at least for me," the German said.

"I have been champion for a long time and I am more surprised by how long it has been. I always knew it would end one day."

Now 48 points behind Renault's Fernando Alonso with just four races and a maximum of 40 points remaining, the seven times champion cannot retain the crown he has worn since 2000.

Spain's Alonso has a lead of 27 points over McLaren's Kimi Raikkonen and can secure the title in Belgium next weekend at Schumacher's favourite Spa circuit.

Schumacher, 10th on another dark day for a team that was dominant last year with 15 wins in 18 races, accepted the situation with realism and hailed Alonso as his successor.

"I think after today's race, you do not need to be very prophetic to say that the championship is over," declared the 36-year-old.

"The championship is only a very small theoretical possibility for Kimi.

"A lot of things need to happen for Alonso not to win the championship and I don't see those things happening. So for me, this topic is over -- just as my championship was over quite a while ago."


NO LIGHT

The German ran in the points for a while at Monza but was ninth after the final fuel stops and then went off the track at the second Lesmo corner as he chased BAR's Jenson Button.

For the second race in a row, Ferrari scored no points -- a rare failure for a team that has won for the last three years at Monza and been world champions for six years in a row.

It was also the first time in Schumacher's career that he had finished the Italian Grand Prix without scoring.

"Giving up would not help anything," said the 36-year-old of Ferrari's plight.

"In the past we have been so successful and the others have been the sad ones," he added. "If the situation we are in now made us give up, we would be bad losers and we would have underestimated our rivals.

"And that is also why our rivals should not underestimate us now, because we want to come back."

Schumacher saw little reason to suspect there was any light at the end of the tunnel and he is not expecting miracles at Spa.

"I would really like to look forward to going to Spa but with our performance at the moment, it's not that good a feeling," he said.

"Clearly we have been much too slow. It's very obvious why we have been so slow but I don't know if that is all the reason."

Asked to clarify his comment, Schumacher made a clear reference to Ferrari's Bridgestone tyres: "I think it's quite clear that we speak about the 'black gold'."

Source: Reuters
 
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Kimi is more than capable enough to take the possie of driver 1, the only problem of taking Kimi as driver 2 under MS, would mean he would play second fiddle to MS.
 
Maxkarter said:
Kimi is more than capable enough to take the possie of driver 1,

Yes he is but certainly not if michael is present in the same team. Michael is far better a driver than kimi. You provide the same Mclaren to michael & see how he outpaces him.

Maxkarter said:
the only problem of taking Kimi as driver 2 under MS, would mean he would play second fiddle to MS.

why second fiddle. If kimi thinks he can outpace him then he should take that post as challenge.

The bottom line is that the outcome of 2006 season would be the deciding factor of whether michael will renew his contract with Ferrari or not. I hope he does! :hpraise
 
sid_19840 said:
what do u ppl think is in store for narain for the next season?

well to be honest apart from vry few races narain was rusty through out the season, his major problem has been the amount of races which he could not finish in comparison with his team mate. He has potential and patience is the key for him. Ofcoarse Jordon is not a type of car where one can show wht he is capable of but at least he should try to finish races as it is vry important for him to gain experience in order to excell in F1.
 
Oh yes, forgot about him. But because I forgot you can tell its isn't a big move really.
With the whole second fiddle thing, Rubens wasn't 'allowed' to challenge or beat MS otherwise he would have been fired a long time back, Kimi wouldn't take that kind of treatment and then would rebel and get kicked out the team eventually.
 
Maxkarter said:
Oh yes, forgot about him. But because I forgot you can tell its isn't a big move really.
With the whole second fiddle thing, Rubens wasn't 'allowed' to challenge or beat MS otherwise he would have been fired a long time back, Kimi wouldn't take that kind of treatment and then would rebel and get kicked out the team eventually.

come on max. i dont know why ppl keep on saying this second fiddle thingy going on in ferrari camp i mean how can u say that Rubens wasnt allowed to beat MS, imo ppl who cannot take of MS being all time gr8 r unnecessary making up stories of MS achieving this(7 time chmps) feat only by ferrari's special treatment. This is just a build up story by media nothing else.
 
taimurasad said:
come on max. i dont know why ppl keep on saying this second fiddle thingy going on in ferrari camp i mean how can u say that Rubens wasnt allowed to beat MS, imo ppl who cannot take of MS being all time gr8 r unnecessary making up stories of MS achieving this(7 time chmps) feat only by ferrari's special treatment. This is just a build up story by media nothing else.
It was ferrari's tatics that made the FIA introduce the silly no team orders rule, after the Austrian GP farce a couple of years back
 
kevmead said:
It was ferrari's tatics that made the FIA introduce the silly no team orders rule, after the Austrian GP farce a couple of years back

if i im not mistaken it also happened in last yrs italian GP whre MS gave his p1 to Rubens at the vry last lap whre he clearly could have won.
 
He only let rubens through because he already had the title in the bag, Rubens wouldnt be allowed to win (at MS's expense) in the early part of a season.
 
Rubens needed to take second place in the drivers title to make it a Ferrari 1-2. The point is that its true, just like McLaren and the Finnish boys...
 

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