ICC Champions Trophy 2009

Who Will Win The ICC Champions Trophy


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we would have thrashed u :p

Maybe. It's pretty close actually. I don't think there's any ODI side way ahead at the moment. AUS, SA, NZ, IND, SL are all pretty close in my opinion. That would have been one positive with the Champions Trophy this time. Not that that woul necessarily mean close games, but a close tournament probably.
 
Pakistan hope to fill gap

Pakistan are confident that they will be able to confirm a tri-series in either South Africa or Australia in order to fill the gap created by the postponement of the Champions Trophy which was scheduled to be held in September.


Shafqat Naghmi, Pakistan board's chief operating officer, told the News that they would contact Australia and South Africa to fix matches for September.

http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/iccct2008/content/current/story/366171.html

They will get money if they can bring India there but frankly speaking the crowd in Asia Cup was very low even for Ind-Pak matches,for other matches harldy 100 people...
 
Erm. The Pakistan-India games both at Karachi were full houses.

Well all the tickets were sold anyway.

I must say, this is quite hypocritical of the Australians. Please read the following article:

Sportinglife said:
Next month's Bangalore Open has been cancelled due to security concerns, the Association of Tennis Professionals have confirmed.

The week-long tournament was scheduled start on September 29 at the Karnataka State Lawn Tennis Association's courts.

"The ATP board can confirm that it has, regrettably, accepted a petition from the Bangalore Open to suspend the 2008 event due to the local promoter's security concerns," said the ATP's vice-president of media and marketing operations Nicola Arzani.

The tournament was held in Mumbai for the last two years, but was moved to Bangalore earlier this summer.

But last month's serial bomb blasts in the city, which left one person dead, forced the cancellation.

http://www.sportinglife.com/tennis/...RY_NAME=tennis/08/08/26/TENNIS_Bangalore.html

And a 2nd source - http://www.rte.ie/sport/tennis/2008/0826/bangaloreopen.html

Why is it that the ATP, which is a professional organization, is concerned about the safety of their players in India, more specifically in Bangalore, while CA is not?

Guess where the 1st test match of the India vs Australia test series takes place? Thats right, Bangalore.

Hmm.
 
PCB ropes in Lanka for a tri-series in SA



Pakistan Cricket Board's efforts to compensate the postponement of Champions Trophy bore fruit as it has managed to rope in Sri Lanka for a triangular One-day series in South Africa tentatively scheduled to start from September 12.

Sources in the Pakistan board confirmed that Sri Lanka has given its consent to play in the tri-series while India has expressed its inability to be involved in a One-day tournament.

http://cricket.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3415952.cms


Will be a good series, three good teams.

Pak:Playing at home hoil,good adv to them
SL: Though lost to India series, they play well.
SA:No nned to comment,good in all aspects of game (Batting,bowling,feilding).
Good series ahesd for cricket lovers.
 
This will be longest running thread now.

Why is it that the ATP, which is a professional organization, is concerned about the safety of their players in India, more specifically in Bangalore, while CA is not?

Guess where the 1st test match of the India vs Australia test series takes place? Thats right, Bangalore.

Hmm.

Because Banglore is place where visitors punish Indians badly. :p
 
Erm. The Pakistan-India games both at Karachi were full houses.

Well all the tickets were sold anyway.

I must say, this is quite hypocritical of the Australians. Please read the following article:



http://www.sportinglife.com/tennis/...RY_NAME=tennis/08/08/26/TENNIS_Bangalore.html

And a 2nd source - http://www.rte.ie/sport/tennis/2008/0826/bangaloreopen.html

Why is it that the ATP, which is a professional organization, is concerned about the safety of their players in India, more specifically in Bangalore, while CA is not?

Guess where the 1st test match of the India vs Australia test series takes place? Thats right, Bangalore.

Hmm.

From what I saw on the news this morning, it was actually the Karnataka Tennis Association that asked the ATP to cancel the tour because of the security concerns.

Just face it zMario. India is FAR safer then Pakistan. Last months attacks was one of the worst in history, and I find it quite sickening that you are using the deaths of all those people as a tool in your little argument to try and make Pakistan look safer. Maybe it is a safe place. But if people are uneasy to tour, you shouldn't force them to.
 
From what I saw on the news this morning, it was actually the Karnataka Tennis Association that asked the ATP to cancel the tour because of the security concerns.

Just face it zMario. India is FAR safer then Pakistan. Last months attacks was one of the worst in history, and I find it quite sickening that you are using the deaths of all those people as a tool in your little argument to try and make Pakistan look safer. Maybe it is a safe place. But if people are uneasy to tour, you shouldn't force them to.

India, a land of where bombings occur next to Graeme Smith and Shane Warne, yet they continue to stay to play in the IPL. Real safe :)

India, a land where men can get so close to players, that one can try to kiss Ricky Ponting (there is a youtube video ;))

Face it, Pakistan's security is one of the best in the world. The fact that a normal citizen of India could kiss Ricky Ponting is certainly a security glitch in my opinion.

And hold on, I'm not using deaths of anyone. I'm clearly pointing out that if one MAJOR organization has canceled their competition, which as far as Tennis goes, isn't really an "important" one, since Tennis in India is not like Cricket.

However, Australia well and truly knows that if they miss a tour to India, their entire IPL paycheck is in jeopardy. Everybody knows that.

India and the sponsors that come along with them have so much power and money in world cricket, that if the bus coming to the hotel to pick the Australian players blew up, it would be described as a minor inconvenience, and a new bus would be arranged. <- Hypothetical situation

And Cricketman, who are you to tell me that India is safer, with you living in the USA, and me living in Pakistan?

Both are countries that should be toured without a hitch, especially Pakistan with the amount of foolproof security we have provided for every team.

And guess what - Cricket Australia were NEVER open-minded about this situation. It was revealed that CA announced they will not tour Pakistan TWO MONTHS AGO. Now please tell me how that is open-minded? :)



I believe this article from Michael Atherton sums it best:

Michael Atherton said:
Champions Trophy a victim of cricket player power
Leading men: pressure from four teams - led by, clockwise from top left, Pietersen (England), Daniel Vettori (New Zealand), Graeme Smith (South Africa) and Ricky Ponting (Australia) - forced the postponement of the ICC Champions Trophy, but the players in those sides have a wider duty to the game

Leading men: pressure from four teams - led by, clockwise from top left, Pietersen (England), Daniel Vettori (New Zealand), Graeme Smith (South Africa) and Ricky Ponting (Australia) - forced the postponement of the ICC Champions Trophy, but the players in those sides have a wider duty to the game
Mike Atherton, Chief Cricket Correspondent

No tears need be shed for the ICC Champions Trophy, a misnomer of a tournament conceived out of pure greed. Like most things with a solely monetary value, it is a worthless affair. Its postponement, though, illustrates one immutable fact: that cricket is squarely in the era of player power. Whether the players learn to exercise their newfound authority with a degree of responsibility and enlightenment will determine how calmly or otherwise the game moves forward.

Make no mistake, despite the red flag being waved by the administrators, this tournament was postponed because the players from South Africa, New Zealand, England and Australia didn't fancy going. Eventually West Indies threw their maroon caps into the ring as well, but as in most cricketing matters these days, sadly, they are a peripheral force. The main impetus came from the others.

When it comes to touring Pakistan, no team have been more narrow-minded than Australia, who, at the same time as showing unconditional love for India and the marketing opportunities it allows, have not toured Pakistan since 1998. Bombs in Jaipur and London carry a more lucrative blast. New Zealand remain spooked by the suicide bomb that went off close to their Karachi hotel six years ago. Likewise South Africa, since their most recent tour to Pakistan coincided with a suicide bomber's attempt on the life of Benazir Bhutto and the imposition of a state of emergency.

England's players have no doubt spent much of the summer chin-wagging with their opposite numbers from New Zealand and South Africa and listening to the scaremongering and horror stories. Apparently, when Haroon Lorgat, the ICC chief executive, sat down with the England players last week, he was taken aback by the vehemence of the negative sentiment. No player has been more publicly outspoken than Kevin Pietersen (before he took the captaincy, of course) and at present, given his strength of position, it would take a particularly strong-minded player to go against the captain's grain. No matter that England's last tour to Pakistan three years ago, as the war against terrorism was in full swing, passed off without a hitch.
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Throughout the debate, the players' associations have been on the front foot. Barely a day goes by without some comment from Paul Marsh, Heath Mills or Sean Morris, the respective heads of the cricketers' unions in Australia, New Zealand and England. Then there is Fica, the Federation of International Cricketers' Associations - this curious organisation, self-appointed to bang the players' drum. Previously, Fica's main role was to give warning against the problems of player burn-out, but since the players have put any notions of burn-out to one side in the dash for Indian cash, Fica was suddenly looking a little useless. Security, this all-embracing notion that nothing can happen in life while there is even the slightest degree of risk, has filled the yawning gap nicely. Accordingly, the report of Reg Dickason, the security expert who travels with the England team and is close to the players and trusted by them, was given particular credence. No security expert ever played down risk.

No, the players' minds were closed. They didn't want to go to Pakistan and no amount of persuasion on behalf of the hosts - and no amount of armour-plated security - was going to change that.

That players have a strong voice and are no longer subservient to self-serving committee men is entirely a good thing. For too long, players filled vast stadiums, played for a pittance and then went and ran pubs or spent their remaining days flicking through scrapbooks. Now they are forcing the administrators' hands, not just picking and choosing their options, but agitating so that matches are arranged for their financial benefit only. Why else would the ECB hire out the national team to a Texan billionaire if not to appease players unable to share riches on offer elsewhere?

From the moment the Indian Premier League's (IPL) auction put a dollar value on talent, the players have recognised the power in their grasp. Money is power, because with money comes the freedom to pick and choose. But with power comes responsibility and, as yet, the players have not shown that they will use it wisely.

Before the IPL, the chief executive of Cricket Australia, James Sutherland, was forced to write to his players reminding them that they were under contract and unable to sign for another employer without prior agreement. Throughout the summer, the agents of England's top players have been merrily negotiating with IPL franchises at the same time as their clients are under central contract. Players cannot have it all ways: the money, pension benefits and security provided when injured, and the ability to be a free agent.

Recently, when the potential money-making of the Champions League forced a change in dates for the Australia-South Africa Test series, the players demurred. Suddenly this de facto Test Cricket Championship was squeezed into a three-match back-to-back Test series, with Sutherland quoted as saying: We took feedback from the players that changes could be accommodated without compromising the series. This was a time for the players to stand up for the integrity of Test cricket, as they so often say they will but never do.

The players have a wider responsibility to the game and, given the impotence of the ICC and the incompetence of many of the national governing bodies, the game desperately needs broad-minded players who are prepared to look beyond their wallets. One such responsibility is to ensure that Pakistan does not become a cricketing Cuba, blockaded by superpowers for no good reason other than personal whim, and that the game, by consequence, does not become torn apart down racial lines.

From http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/mike_atherton/article4621484.ece

Do you called that open-mindedness?

These players had already decided in their minds, they will not tour Pakistan.

Pakistan is a boring place for some of you, since we do not provide the accessibility to bars (actually in the hotels you can get Alcohol, but not outside the hotels), nightclubs, and the "Western way of life entertainment wise"

KP even said it himself, that Pakistan is a boring place. For him, it may be. But thats his problem. Honestly speaking, some of these placers should be sent to Pakistan as rehabilitation. No drugs (well difficult for them to get a hold of them - and I mean the recreational ones), no prostitutes (again, difficult for them), and no bars/alcohol. Oh what will they do.
 
The guy who kissed Ponting won some contest and was drunk. :rolleyes:

The blasts in Jaipur were part of that largest threat attack I talked about.

And plus bagging India doesn't make Pakistan look like a safer place to me. I go back to the thing I said earlier - you can't force people to tour. Obviously they feel safer in India then Pakistan, that's for the players to judge and not you.

Cricketman added 4 Minutes and 45 Seconds later...

Attacks in just the year 2008 in Pakistan:

2008

[edit] January - March

* January 10 24 people were killed and 73 injured in a suicide attack when the policemen were deliberately targeted outside Lahore High Court before the scheduled lawyer's protest against the government in provincial capital of Lahore. This attack was first of its kind in Lahore since the start of War on Terrorism.[154]

* January 14 At least 10 people were killed and over 50 wounded when a bomb exploded in Quaidabad. The bomb was planted on a bicycle and it went off during wee hours in a vegetable market in Karachi.[155]

* January 17 At least 12 people were killed and 25 others injured, three of them critically, when a suicide bomber blew himself up at the crowded Mirza Qasim Baig Imambargah in Mohalla Janghi, Kohati in the NWFP capital city of Peshawar.[156]

* February 4 At least 10 people were killed and 27 others injured, when a suicide bomber crashed his bike into an armed forces bus carrying students and officials of Army Medical College, near the General Headquarters in Rawalpindi.[157]

* February 9 At least 25 people died and 35 were injured after a powerful explosion hit an opposition election rally in Charsadda in the north-western Pakistan. The attack targeted ANP, a secular party, one of whose leaders, Fazal-ur-Rehman Atakhail, was assassinated February 7 in Karachi triggering widespread protests. Possible conspirators of the latest attack could be the Islamist Taliban-al-Qaeda nexus operating in the northwestern Pakistan.[158]

Main article: 2008 Charsadda bombing

* February 11 A suicide attack on a public meeting in Miranshah, North Waziristan left at least eight people dead and a dozen wounded, including a candidate for the National Assembly. It was the second attack on ANP's election gathering in two days.[159]

* February 16 A suicide bomber rammed his explosive-laden vehicle on the election meeting of Pakistan Peoples Party, the party of the slain former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto in Parachinar, Kurram Agency in northwestern Pakistan. The attack left at least 47 people dead and 150 injured according to Interior Ministry of Pakistan. It was the fourth such attack on PPP's political workers within a year; two of them targeting the former PPP leader Benazir Bhutto.[160]

Main article: 2008 Parachinar bombing

* February 18 At least 24 people were killed and nearly 200 were injured in election-related violence across the country on the eve of Pakistani general election, Aaj TV reported.[161]

* February 22 A roadside bomb near the town of Matta, Swat District, NWFP killed at least 13 members of a wedding party and left about a dozen injured. An army spokesman said the bomb had been detonated by remote control. Women and children were among the casualties.[162]

* February 25 Pakistan Army's top medic Lt Gen Mushtaq Baig was killed, along with the driver and security guard, when a suicide attack ripped apart the vehicle he was traveling in at 2:45pm local time near Army General Headquarters in Rawalpindi. At least 5 other passersby were also killed and 20 injured in the incident. Gen Baig was the highest ranking officer to be killed in Pakistan since the 9/11 attacks.[163]

* February 29 As many as 38 people were killed and 75 injured when a suicide bomber blew himself up in Mingora, Swat District on Friday during the funeral of a senior police officer who had been killed hours earlier in Lakki Marwat in southern part of NWFP. The police DSP was killed along with three other policemen when their vehicle was hit in a roadside bomb earlier in the day. Witnesses said the suicide attack took place when a police party was presenting a gun salute in honor of the slain police officer in a school ground in Mingora town at about 8pm.[164]

* March 2 At least 42 people were killed and 58 injured in a suicide attack, when the bomber struck the meeting of tribal elders and local officials in the town of Darra Adam Khel, a few miles south of Peshawar. The town of Darra was the center of violent clashes earlier in January when the militants took over the Kohat Tunnel that connected Peshawar with Kohat. After the onslaught of security forces to take back the tunnel, the fighting resulted in the deaths of 13 troops and 70 militants.[165]

* March 4 Eight persons were killed and 24 others injured when two suicide bombers blew themselves up in the parking area of the Pakistan Navy War College located in the city of Lahore. It was the first time a Pakistani naval institution was targeted by the militants (Army has been targeted at least eight times outside the war zone and Air Force twice) since the ongoing War on Terrorism in Pakistan in general and post-Lal Masjid siege in particular. This attack on War College was carried out by two suicide attackers, the first one to clear the way for the second one; and the second one to do the damage.[166]

* March 11 At least 24 people were killed and more than 200 wounded in twin suicide bombings in the eastern Pakistani city of Lahore. One of the attacks ripped apart Federal Investigation Agency building killing 21, including 16 policemen. The other one hit the posh locality of Model Town, exploding close to Bilawal House, associated with PPP leaders Benazir Bhutto and her husband Asif Ali Zardari.[167]

* March 15 An attack occurred when a bomb was hurled over a wall surrounding an Islamabad restaurant. Four of the 12 people wounded in the bombing were U.S. FBI agents. In addition to wounding the agents, the explosion killed a Turkish woman and wounded a fifth American, three Pakistanis, a person from the United Kingdom and someone from Japan.[168]

* March 16 At least 20 people were killed in a missile strike in the tribal area of South Waziristan.[169]

[edit] April - September

* April 9 Riots in Karachi kill 9 people and wound many others with 40 vehicles getting torched after two groups of lawyers scuffle that begin after PML-Q leaders, former CM Sindh Arbab Ghulam Rahim and former federal minister Sher Afgan Niazi are maltreated ahead of government formation in the provinces of Sindh and Punjab.[170]

* April 17 At least 20 people were killed and dozens others injured in the clashes between two belligerent factions in Khyber Agency.[171]

* May 6 At least four people have been killed in a suspected suicide attack in Bannu, amid signs a truce with militants may be breaking down, negotiations for which was started in March.[172]

* May 18 A bomb attack targeting the Army's Punjab Regimental Center market in the city of Mardan killed at least 13 people, including four soldiers and injured more than 20. This was the second attack in Mardan in a month after a car bomb on April 25 killed three and injured 26 people.[173]

* May 19 At least four people were killed and another two injured in a remote-controlled bomb blast outside a mosque in the Mamond tehsil of Bajaur Agency.[174]

* May 26 Seven people were killed and five others injured in what appeared to be incidents of sectarian violence in Dera Ismail Khan.[175]

* June 2 The Danish embassy in Islamabad is attacked with a car bomb killing six people. A post purportedly from Al-Qaeda's Mustafa Abu al-Yazid appears on the Internet a day after the attack claiming responsibility. The statement mentions the publication of "insulting drawings" and the refusal to "apologize for publishing them" referring to the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy.[176]

Main article: 2008 Danish embassy bombing

* June 9 Sufi Muhammad, leader of the TNSM, on Monday survived a remote-controlled bombing initiated by local Taliban in Peshawar, in which four policemen got injured.[177]

* June 16 A bomb blast inside a Shia mosque killed at least four people and wounded two others in Dera Ismail Khan.[178]

* July 6 A suicide bomber killed 19 people in an attack targeting policemen deployed at a rally observing the first year anniversary of an army raid on the capital’s Lal Masjid.[179]

Main article: 2008 Lal Masjid bombing

* July 7 A string of small explosions, apparently from bombs, wounded at least 37 people in Karachi, rattling Pakistan a day after a deadly suicide attack in Islamabad.[180]

* August 2 At least eight police and security workers were killed when a remote-controlled bomb exploded near their vehicle in Mingora, Swat.[181]

* July 31 - August 4 A total of 136 people were killed in Swat Valley in a week of fighting between the security forces and pro-Taliban militants. The casualties included at least 94 militants, 14 soldiers and around 28 civilians.[182]

* August 9 Militants stormed a police post in village Kingargalai of the Buner District on Friday night, killing eight policemen.[183]

* August 12 A bomb targeting a Pakistani Air Force bus carrying personnel from a military base killed 13 people and wounded 11 others on Tuesday on a major road near the center of Peshawar. Taliban forces reportedly took responsibility. The attack was seen as retaliation for Pakistani airstrikes in Bajaur Agency, a militant stronghold near the border with Afghanistan. Five of the dead were air force personnel and the eight others were bystanders.[184]

* August 13 Eight people, including two policemen, were killed and over 20, including 12 policemen, were injured after an alleged suicide bomber blew himself up n ear a police station in Lahore on the eve of Independence Day celebrations.[185] On the same day, six people were killed and 19 others, four of them policemen, were injured in explosions in Hub and Uthal, a hand-grenade attack in Panjgur and shooting incidents in Kharan and Turbat towns in Balochistan,[186] while leader of the banned outfit Amr Bil Maroof Wa Nahi Anil Munkar Haji Namdar was shot dead when he was delivering sermon in Bara tehsil.[187] Haji Namdar had earlier escaped a suicide attack on 1 May, 2008 in which 17 people were injured.[188]

* August 7 - August 18 Clashes mainly between the Toori and Bangash tribes, but which involved other local tribes, in the Kurram Agency left at least 287 people dead and 373 injured in 12 consecutive days of fighting. In the later incidents, pro-Taliban militants were involved too, after which the local tribesmen asked the government to flush out the militants.[189]

* August 19 32 people, seven policemen and two health officials among them, were killed and 55 others injured when a suicide bomber blew himself up near the emergency ward of the District Headquarters Hospital in Dera Ismail Khan. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan claimed responsibility for the attack.[190]

* August 21 70 people were killed and 67 others injured when two suicide bombers blew themselves up outside the gates of the state run Pakistan Ordnance Factory near Islamabad. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan claimed responsibility for the attack.[191]

Main article: 2008 Wah bombing

* August 23 20 people were killed when a suicide bomber rammed a explosive-laden car into a police station in Charbagh Tehsil of Swat valley of North West Frontier Province. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan claimed responsibility for the attack.[192]

* August 25 10 people were killed in a rocket attack targeting the house of a local member of provincial assembly (MPA) in Swat valley in North West Frontier Province. As a result of the attack, MPA Waqar Ahmed's brother and other family members were killed. [193]

* August 27 7 people were killed and 20 others were injured in a bomb explosion outside a street cafe in outskirts of Islamabad. [194]

* August 28 9 people were killed and 15 others were injured in a bomb attack targeting a polive van in the Bannu area of North West Frontier Province. [195]

I didn't want to pull that out but you keep bringing up the worst attack that has hit us in years. Give me a break.
 
India, a land of where bombings occur next to Graeme Smith and Shane Warne, yet they continue to stay to play in the IPL. Real safe :)

Because BCCI's Sharad Pawar Threatened them They may leave but will not get any price for the so far present..and then they never left IPL.. Security was best in the IPL season..

i was into Stadiums of Mumbai (wankhede & D Y Patil) there were more than 10+ Check post scanning people who counts 40,000..

You say India is dangerous place and Pakistan is safer...? lol if that;s the case why did the champs trophy postponed? you said Security level is at the best..BUT the bombings let down the Trophy..and people sya Pakistan is Safer...

chetan0304 added 2 Minutes and 27 Seconds later...

@Criketman the Bombings maybe just a way to decrease the population counting, right ? Zmario?:rolleyes:
 
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Because BCCI's Sharad Pawar Threatened them They may leave but will not get any price for the so far present..and then they never left IPL.. Security was best in the IPL season..

Exactly, they stayed for the money

i was into Stadiums of Mumbai (wankhede & D Y Patil) there were more than 10+ Check post scanning people who counts 40,000..

The ICC CT was to have 16 check posts. :)

You say India is dangerous place and Pakistan is safer...? lol if that;s the case why did the champs trophy postponed? you said Security level is at the best..BUT the bombings let down the Trophy..and people sya Pakistan is Safer...

Because the players are not interested in touring Pakistan for their own personal reasons - not security

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I think you need to get the idea that western sportsmen only ever visit prostitutes and get drunk for entertainment out of your head, because it is seriously naive and misguided.

I don't blame them for not visiting Pakistan, the current situation is very hostile. More so with the recent resignation of Musharraf.
 
Champions Trophy postponement a big blow: Akram

"I should say yes, the postponement of Champions Trophy is a big blow for Pakistan," Akram said on the sideline of a seven-day cricket camp on Friday.

"I really don't know why the South Africa team refused to participate in the tournament in Pakistan, even after initially giving their nod. It is also unfortunate that Australia and England also raised security concern," Akram, who has served Pakistan in 104 Test matches, said.

http://cricket.timesofindia.indiati...stponement_a_big_blow/articleshow/3422754.cms


Truely,its a big blow for everybody,Cricket lovers,the host,lets hope it stays in Pak next year and ICC or players will be satisfied w.r.t secruity.

nikhil_99 added 1 Minutes and 54 Seconds later...

Foreign players are being insensitive towards Pakistan: PCB

Outraged by South African captain Graeme Smith's opposition to the idea of having a tri-nation One-day series with Pakistan to compensate for the postponed Champions Trophy, the Pakistan Cricket Board said foreign players have been "insensitive" towards the strife-torn country's problems.

"We graciously accepted the postponement of the tournament which is a big setback to our cricket because players raised a hue and cry over the security. But it seems as if these players just don't understand the problems being faced by us," one senior official said.
http://cricket.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3421396.cms

Like i said lets hope tournament stays in Pak in 2009 and we get to see good matches,good pitches,spectators.

nikhil_99 added 1 Minutes and 33 Seconds later...

ICC to decide on CT venue by March 2009





The ICC Executive Board will take a final decision on whether the Champions Trophy, which has been postponed till 2009, should remain in Pakistan or be relocated during a meeting in March next year.

Sources in the Pakistan Cricket Board have confirmed that March is the deadline for confirming the venue of the tournament which was to be held in Pakistan from September 12 but has been postponed due to the security concerns raised by some teams.

"The ICC is having a meeting on September 11 and 12 to decide the best dates for the tournament when it is held next year. But the final decision on whether it will remain in Pakistan will be taken in March," one source said.

http://cricket.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3421572.cms
 
Right, let's ignore the problems as we don't want to offend anyone. Pakistan should face up to the problems which have caused over a thousand civilians to have been killed in suicide attacks in the last year. It's not exactly a bolt out of the blue.
 
Cricketman, can I just say that everything you've brought up are in the tribal areas.

Only 1 or 2 scarce incidents have occured in the major cities, where the players would be.

Also, you're mentioning fighting between soldiers and militants. What does this have to do with citizens? Of course there will unfortunately be casulties, but in a war people will die. That is a fact of life unfortunately.

Yet you're exploiting that and saying that they're not safe because soldiers are dieing?

Look. If you have security around you, heck even one decently strong sized guy, you're safe :)

And believe me, your picture of Pakistan is as skewed as it gets. I again do not understand how you are an authority on Pakistan, when I happen to live there?

You are yet to tell me why the ATP, a PROFESSIONAL organization, canceled their competition in Bangalore which takes place during the same time of the first test match of Australia vs India in the SAME CITY.

So the ATP has received security information that Bangalore is unsafe, while CA hasn't?

Interesting, seeing as CA's security report was based on a TWO DAY STAY, while the ICC's security report was based on WEEKS AND WEEKS OF ANALYSIS.

I'd go with the group of people who have remained in Pakistan for nearly a month and a half, rather than one man who stayed for only two days

I'm not saying that Pakistan is the safest place in the world. But I am ADAMENT that it is a safe enough country to tour for Cricket, when given security that head of states - George W. Bush and the like get.

Hell, even George Bush was walking in the streets of Islamabad, with about just 10 men around him. (This was back in 2005-06 I believe). And yes, he did play tennis ball cricket on that occasion. Is Pakistan not safe enough for Australian cricketers, but its safe enough for George W. Bush and all the other USA dignitories that come to Pakistan?
 
I hope no team pulls out of this trophy in 2009. Nobody would want to see a crap team like Bangladesh replacing Australia or NZ.
 

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