ICC Cricket World Cup - May/July 2019

[aditya123]

Given all the bashing of England, I have one thing to say. I don`t think there is any side right now that will win the WC in the manner in which Australia won in 2003 or 2007. The winner will very likely be a 2011/1992 style winner. Given that, England these losses might actually be good for England en route to the knockouts. The 03/07 Aussie sides were freakish and did`nt have any hiccups at all. No side at the moment has that sort of aura.

I don`t think India will win steamroll through the tournament either. I don`t mind losing a game in the league if it shows up some chinks before the S/Fs. I`d hate a 2015 style exit.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

So it seems India will be wearing alternate jersey only against England. They are expected to turn up with their original blue jersey for tomorrow's game against Afghanistan. That's sad since I was waiting to see the new jersey tomorrow. But makes sense that Afghanistan wear an alternate jersey tomorrow against India.



True. Today's game opens up the competition that seemed dead after yesterday. By losing to Pakistan and Sri Lanka, England have made their position pretty shaky now. They could still win all 3 of the remaining and top the table. Or they could lose all 3 (or 2 out of 3) and crash out of the semifinal spot.

To me, the only side that looks pretty confident as of now, is INDIA. It's very weird for India to be in this position but the kind of player choices India have at their disposal, just makes them feel safe despite the fact that they have only 3 wins till now in the 4 games (with 1 washout). I think India needs a decision on Bhuvi quickly, just like they proactively pressed the button on Dhawan. Get Ishant Sharma in and close the matter out.

Ishant Sharma is very good choice to have especially with his county stint in the ladt couple of years. Initially wanted Khaleel to replace if he doesn't recover in time but just feel at the big stage some like Ishant would be a better option to have.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

I don`t think India will win steamroll through the tournament either. I don`t mind losing a game in the league if it shows up some chinks before the S/Fs. I`d hate a 2015 style exit.

Absolutely ever since the 2014 WT20 we have been bowing out of the knockout stages due to one bad day or just one bad phase during the match. So another Semifinal loss or the final one would be more painful any chinks in the armour or any bad omen should rather happen in the league stages similar to 2011 WC were we had a rough journey in the group stages tie to England , lost to SA even lost early wickets in chases against the like Ireland and abit if collapse against Netherlands it was only in the knockouts were we picked our best combination bringing in Raina instead of Yusuf and Ashwin instead of Chawla in the QFs and ended up playing best cricket only in the last 3 games.

 

[Rehan_24]

That was a childish play by England batsmen except Stokes. Joe Root played too many dot balls and got out at the wrong time. It ws very surprizing how the lower order threw their wickets away unbeliveable

England has massive problems with their openers. The overconfidence pn Bairstow can ruin them. The guy is not dependable at all. Root has to play lot better, he also lost it against Pakistan after getting this close

 

[Bigby Wolf]

So England still have three big games left vs India,Australia and New Zealand - so last 4 spot still open with today's result.

England will be up against Australia next on 25th at Lords where they kinda have a poor record against any team and the pressure of qualifying for the knockouts might just creep in.

P.S - Now its actually feel that WC is on with a few more upset perhaps Pak beating NZ and saffers or Bang beating India the table will be wide opened.

 

[Jalen]

So England loses on a slowish pitch. I'll say it a million, when not playing on a flat deck they're mediocre. Anyone remembers they were 20/6 against SA on a green pitch at Lord's? And against Pakistan on a slow pitch in Cardiff in the CT semifinal?

Don't forget when they were also 8/5 on a green deck in Adelaide in 2018. Any pitch that the ball seams on they will struggle. The green tracks in limited overs cricket in England and Australia aren't very different conditions either unlike red ball cricket

 

[Master Khan]

England want from being the favorites to now to being knock out from the top 4, losing to a out of form Sri Lanka and Pakistan team is not doing them a favor.
I believe they can bounce back from this and qualify for the top 4, they can beat New Zealand I think but not sure about India and Australia because they are just playing great currently.

 

[abhi_jacko]

What a win for SL... This definitely helps open up the table a bit

But all the people writing of England, are rushing into calling out their doomsday. They have shown some chinks in their armor while chasing, but they are still favorites to make the top 4. I feel they are going to win against the Kiwis easily, unless for some weird reason they get a greentop and have to bat first. Chances of that happening are low

 

[abhi_jacko]

The amount of criticism and trolling Pakistan and their players are getting is just ridiculous. Pakistani fans need to get over the loss and treat the team with some respect.

There is a video out today where a fan in a mall asks sarfaraz for a selfie and when he obliges, he calls him names

And honestly, other teams be wary. Its situations like these that really make the Pakistani team punch above their weight and get on a roll even. They feed on their vulnerability and suddenly become invincible.

 

[asprin]

England getting bashed left and right. They lose one game and suddenly they are not even sure of qualifying? That is very far-fetched thought.

Yes, they lost to a lower ranked team. Yes, they have difficult matches ahead of them with a history that is not so pleasing for them. But Australia and NZ haven't looked as solid as they appear on paper either. If anything, this loss could serve as a well-timed wake up call for them. And as far as history goes (of not having won WC matches against Aus/NZ/Ind), I feel it's irrelevant. Its only use would be for playing mind games and nothing else. Once you step on the field, it all comes down to how well you perform.

In fact, I've no doubt in my mind that England will be one of the teams occupying the semi final spot with India, on current form, looking like the other team. The next two spots are up for grabs to be contested by 6 teams.

The good thing about this upset is that it opens up the WC and gives hope to the other teams who haven't had a very good outing so far (SA, WI, Pak).

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

The 03/07 Aussie sides were freakish and did`nt have any hiccups at all.

Exactly what I have said earlier. That team was so good that nobody was in competition to them. Even in 1999 the team was equally good. Both Pakistan and India had shameful Finals against Australia despite having looked unbeatable in group stages. No team has been as good as them even back then and now. To be frank we won't ever have them kind of a team even in future for the years to come !

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

I`d hate a 2015 style exit.

Yes absolutely. India looked the best team that tournament but it was very much to the opposition they played. But making a Semi-final with the resources we had was just unbelievable and credit should go to the man who Captained that side, also I would like to say, 0% credit to the team director (currently the head coach) as we all know why he was there. If we had a better coach we would've been far better as a side !!!

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Australia and NZ haven't looked as solid as they appear on paper either.

Same for England. They good look with those scores but haven't done well on difficult tracks.

 

[Bevab]

I don’t think England’s batting deserves to be called overrated after yesterday’s performance. They have done well on difficult pitches too over the last four years, or else they wouldn’t be considered the top team in the world.

Yesterday’s pitch wasn’t even a bowler friendly pitch, the Lankans just bowled incredibly well taking full advantage of the conditions. Had this been a regular ODI, England would have chased this score with 10 overs to spare. England’s issues at the moment seem to be

• Pressure. They have lost twice chasing totals in matches they normally would have won comfortably and that largely has been due to the tournament pressure. Root’s performance yesterday was very uncharacteristic of him and I don’t expect a player of his class to throw away his wicket that easily again. The other middle and lower order batsmen (barring Stokes) all threw their wickets away with needless shots in the hope that the next batsman would stick around and play safely which is the drawback of a batdeep strategy. This is easily rectifiable however and it wouldn’t surprise me if they played a bit more carefully by treating good deliveries with the respect they deserve whilst still being aggressive otherwise.
• The second accumulator. England’s strategy has always revolved around two openers taking full advantage of the powerplay, then scoring at near a run a ball in the middle overs with Root playing a pivotal role before Buttler came in towards the last 20 overs to provide the icing on the cake. Morgan’s steady role at 4 has gone under the radar however, as he is perhaps the only player who can both play steady cricket and also slog from ball one if needed. However, he has been a pure slogger this year (relative to previous years) on most occasions (with the exception of two performances versus the Windies and South Africans). Based on what I have seen, he seems to be a tad too cautious versus pace at the moment and is instead trying to compensate for that by slogging versus spinners. Now, England could have hoped for Vince to play this role but he has been a failure until now. This is a far bigger issue and the only solution I can currently see to this is to push Stokes to play at 4 as he has been a lot more cautious with the bat instead of trying to slog needlessly. Given that he hasn’t been bowling as much as he would have in the past, it is certainly worth trying if Buttler’s position is going to be fixed at 6/come in with 20 overs to go.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Is this India's second jersey along with the original one ?