India in Australia

[tassietiger]

Sorry guys but your Symonds love fest is sickening. The guy is inconsistent, he's hit and go. Not up to test standards. Every time we're in a difficult position, he still decides to slog. The only time I've ever seen him with a good innings, building up and then going for boundaries, was the 2006 Boxing Day test against England.

He is not reliable or consistent enough to have in the test team. Yesterday he showed why.

I can see absolutely no reason to keep Symonds in the test team. His good scores are more luck than skill.

We were in a difficult position in the second test when he batted with Hogg, I reckon. His batting average is on a sharp rise and is soon to overtake Michael Clarke's.

 

[icyman]

One should give Dhoni a free hand in running the ODI team, One never know, one could get similar results as the 20/20 where India is doing very well.

We are not saying remove Dhoni.
Just the fact that Yuvraj-the current vice-captain might be reuqired to go back home.Then who should be the vice-captain ?

As opposed to your Twenty20 wc win?

World Cup wins are different.

I can see absolutely no reason to keep Symonds in the test team. His good scores are more luck than skill.

I agree with you over here.
But,who can come in place of Symonds ?
Can they try out Ashley Noffke ? A handy batsman who can double up as a very effective bowler too.

I agree and Karthik should have played in place of Jaffer in Perth itself. But I have a feeling that they will drop Jaffer and bring in Harbajan. Dravid could open and Pathan would play as an all rounder.

The one thing I did not understand in the Perth test was why Laxman was batting at #6. He scored the first century for India in this series playing one down and instead of rewarding him he is pushed to #6 even behind Ganguly. Only in the Indian team batting order is not dertmined by logic and ability. It seems to be determined by who has the political clout, seniority etc.,

Whatever,but VVS Laxman proved that he can bat at any position,espiecially against Australia.
As for Adelaide,it is time for Jaffer to go.If Jaffer does not go,I'm prepared to bet that he won't be opening in the next Test against South Africa.

Bringing in Karthik is not a bad option.He can field in the covers too or he can keep .Else,we can try out Irfan as our opener.

 

[Cricket_god]

i was reallly impresses by dhoni,laxman
the way dhoni has matured as a keeper and batsman is great news for i indian cricket,if you guys remember the mumbai test which india lost to england where dhoni just slogged ,now co meback to todays dhoni,
he plays for the team,people just want sixes and fours but the way he has played in england,southafrica,australia,he may be forgotten but in evrytest win if you look closely the 7 wicket patnership between laxman and dhoni
has been crucial in every indian win specially abroad and his keeping has improved dramatically

 

[0601731]

the indian squad for the one-dayers:
Mahendra Singh Dhoni (capt & wk), Sachin Tendulkar, Yuvraj Singh, Virender Sehwag, Dinesh Karthik, Robin Uthappa, Gautam Gambhir, Suresh Raina, Rohit Sharma, Irfan Pathan, Praveen Kumar, RP Singh, Ishant Sharma, Sreesanth, Harbhajan Singh, Piyush Chawla

 

[sohum]

Meanwhile, I'm assuming that sid's point was that we're not gracious winners, and that you are, so I'm saying that India celebrated for an inaugural tournament that, let's face it, has a fair bit of luck in it (Zimbabwe beat Australia case in point), but if Australia celebrates after equalling a world record 16 test wins in a row (and you know that every single cricket team takes tests the most seriously because they're the most challenging), in the second last over of the day with 3 wickets falling in one over, Australia are not entitled to celebrate?

First and foremost, and I don't know if this is a byproduct of not reading the Indian media for the last few weeks, but I don't care a hoot about how Australia celebrate. If you really have a problem how people celebrate as long as it isn't demeaning, it's really a problem you should take care of personally. This is why I don't care about if Australia had frikkin fireworks that beat New Year's at Sydney to celebrate the 16 test wins in the least bit. Crossing the line as in the ODI victory (pushing Pawar off stage... etc.) can be a controversial topic but celebrating a trophy win is really not a contentious point for me.

I think Symmo can work. He just needs to quieten down a tad bit in test cricket and he would become one of the most dangerous blokes going around.

With regards to the CB series, Ganguly has been dropped. This is astonishing for me because he has been nothing but successful in all formats, recently. With Sehwag in, I guess they are going for the following line-up, provided everyone is fit, for the CB series:

1. Sachin Tendulkar
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Yuvraj Singh
4. Rohit Sharma
5. Suresh Raina
6. Mahinder Singh Dhoni
7. Robin Uthappa
8. Irfan Pathan
9. Piyush Chawla
10. Santhkumaran Sreesanth
11. Rudra Pratap Singh

I think the guy your talking about has lost his mind. He was one of the hundreds of millions who got caught up in the propaganda that is india media. A weak minded person unable to think for himself and have his own constructive opinions

That's strange since I haven't been exposed to the Indian media in about 3 weeks. I've been in the US for a while now and only read Cricinfo articles to catch up on the Cricinfo arguments. Do you see any problems with your argument? Or any problems with your brain?

EDIT: Sorry if this exposes you to be the idiot that you are for everyone who hadn't realized it already.

I see you understand mockery quite well.


I could call you a racist...maybe I will. You've directly classified an entire group of people for the actions of a few...pretty racist to me.

No but please continue, I'm really enjoying these tirades. It's like I don't have to actually say anything for you to make your points look foolish!

Prarara, might I remind you that your intelligent arguments are lost on the idiots who are but thinking about puberty.

EDIT FUTHER: Prarara, lemme clarify my point. He is an idiot who is dreaming about puberty.

 

[.::Stevo::.]

Prarara, might I remind you that your intelligent arguments are lost on the idiots who are but thinking about puberty.

EDIT FUTHER: Prarara, lemme clarify my point. He is an idiot who is dreaming about puberty.

I sooooooooo wanted to say that! Didn't know if i was allowed though!

 

[SciD]

Indian team selection never ceases to amaze anyone in India.

1) Ganguly is best exploited as a ODI player more than a Test match player. The selectors messed up big time with Sehwag as he was dropped from Test side when it was clear that he was suffering in ODIs and now they have shown door to Ganguly. With Dravid not being considered any more I think Ganguly will soon join the list of specialist test players.

2) I dont think Dinesh Kartick will be a force in ODIs. He does not have big shots and from what I have seen hes not playing for singles either. A specialist batsmen in Tiwari or Badrinath would have been handy. Although Tiwari is on stand by but Badrinath is nowhere to be found. Dont know what he has to do to get into recognition after even scoring so many runs.

3) A good thing that they have done is by bringing in Praveen Kumar and Raina. Praveen will give all round abilities with Pathan and Raina will improve the fielding standard. With Yuvi, Gambhir, Utthapa, Raina, Rohit Sharma we will have good fielding unit.

 

[sohum]

I sooooooooo wanted to say that! Didn't know if i was allowed though!

It's a forum, bud. If people actually take anything from here into real life, then they're the ones to blame. You can call me an asshole on a forum and I'll retaliate but as soon as I see real people it won't really register in my memory.

Indian team selection never ceases to amaze anyone in India.

1) Ganguly is best exploited as a ODI player more than a Test match player. The selectors messed up big time with Sehwag as he was dropped from Test side when it was clear that he was suffering in ODIs and now they have shown door to Ganguly. With Dravid not being considered any more I think Ganguly will soon join the list of specialist test players.

2) I dont think Dinesh Kartick will be a force in ODIs. He does not have big shots and from what I have seen hes not playing for singles either. A specialist batsmen in Tiwari or Badrinath would have been handy. Although Tiwari is on stand by but Badrinath is nowhere to be found. Dont know what he has to do to get into recognition after even scoring so many runs.

3) A good thing that they have done is by bringing in Praveen Kumar and Raina. Praveen will give all round abilities with Pathan and Raina will improve the fielding standard. With Yuvi, Gambhir, Utthapa, Raina, Rohit Sharma we will have good fielding unit.

1) I agree. Ganguly's dropping is completely unprecedented and bordering on absolutely ridiculous. He's been good in ODI's and I think he probably carries his weight in the ODI team better than in the test team.

2) I'd like to see Badri or Tiwary around but they're banking on the experience of Karthik. I have no doubt that Tiwary/Badri will eventually get into international cricket especially given that we are paying more attention to our domestic cricket system.

3) Indeed. This is probably the strongest fielding unit we will be having in Indian cricket. Yuvi, Uthappa, Raina, Rohit Sharma and Karthik are probably some of the best fielders we have in our country.

 

[SciD]

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The one thing I did not understand in the Perth test was why Laxman was batting at #6. He scored the first century for India in this series playing one down and instead of rewarding him he is pushed to #6 even behind Ganguly. Only in the Indian team batting order is not dertmined by logic and ability. It seems to be determined by who has the political clout, seniority etc.,

Laxman provides stability lower down the order. Earlier our batting was finished when either Tendulkar or Ganguly got out as Yuvi and Dhoni were having shockers. Laxman has experience in batting with lower order so hes best at 6.

 

[sohum]

Laxman provides stability lower down the order. Earlier our batting was finished when either Tendulkar or Ganguly got out as Yuvi and Dhoni were having shockers. Laxman has experience in batting with lower order so hes best at 6.

I agree. I don't think pushing batsmen around in the test cricket batting line-up is a good idea. For example, Tendulkar is a sure number 4 and Ganguly is a sure number 5. They've just enjoyed playing there in the longest version of the game. I wouldn't be averse to swapping up Dravid and Laxman (though I believe Dravid is one of the greatest number 3's) but not really anything else. Even pushing the whole batting order one step down would have a detrimental effect, I feel.

 

[angryangy]

To be honest, it's about time for Ganguly, his fielding and athleticism are way below standard; you can get away with it in Tests, but in ODIs I am sure there are games when he has added 1 or 2 runs per over, while his poor running between wickets is pretty much preventing him from regularly scoring at a run a ball.

However, in picking a lot of younger players, I tend to think eventually someone will fail and Ganguly's consistency will bring him back into the equation.

 

[karnog]

Aussie attack is not unbelievable. Only Lee and Clark look threatning and the fourth bowler has been ineffective be it Tait or Hogg. You dont have unbelieveable attack with 2.5 bowlers.

Exactly yet the commentators keep saying that the Aussie attack is unbelievable (prior the test). And they said that after the game as well. If you ask me the indian and Aussie attack are equal assuming brad Hogg is in the side for tait.

 

[SciD]

To be honest, it's about time for Ganguly, his fielding and athleticism are way below standard; you can get away with it in Tests, but in ODIs I am sure there are games when he has added 1 or 2 runs per over, while his poor running between wickets is pretty much preventing him from regularly scoring at a run a ball.

However, in picking a lot of younger players, I tend to think eventually someone will fail and Ganguly's consistency will bring him back into the equation.

Ganguly may not be athletic but he provides a calming influence to team. He is handy ODI player because he can bowl medium pace as well and last time around he had success as bowler too.

Now only Tendulkar is elder statesman and he will be under huge pressure because most of players are unexperienced and have 0 games in Australia.

 

[Kiko_97]

where can i get those avatars from. the aussies ones

 

[mattfb]

where can i get those avatars from. the aussies ones

The Aussie avatar thread... There for active Aussie members.