India Team Discussion

[abhi_jacko]

Pujara starts off with a duck for Yorkshire :P Hope better luck follows from now on

Yorks 105/0 (17.0 ov, AZ Lees 52*, WMH Rhodes 45*, SMSM Senanayake 0/24) - Match over | Live Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[shravi]

 

[namin96]

I feel Rahane is already our new Dravid. The guy has been pretty solid (touchwood) in overseas conditions. I wish Pujara can do a Laxman.

I guess Rahane is already ahead of Pujara. Pujara has a lot of work to do to prove himself outside of the subcontinent. Rahane and Kohli have scored everywhere, Kohli hasn't made a test 100 in England but he does have multiple odi hundreds in England from the 2011 tour.

 

[namin96]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Virat has only toured England once, likewise WI (wrt playing test cricket} so its a bit too early to use purely statistics to draw your conclusions.

Cannot deny he is a special talent and if nurtured properly can certainly be one of the all time greats of the game, already is a legend of Indian batting!



Rank him way above Tendulkar but below Ponting/Lara/Kallis. I mean stats may be your thing but I never go purely on stats.

Actually, Virat Kohli toured England in 2011 but only got to play in the odi series. FYI he has multiple odi hundreds in England. If they freaking put him in during the test series, the experience would have helped him on this 2014 tour of England. It was complete bull to keep Gambhir in the line up when he kept edging to slip in the test series in 2011. Yes you have a great point that he is still young and only 26 years old, still has a lot of cricket and I think his best is yet to come believe it or not. Technique wise he is our best batsman in the lineup, the temperament could take a bit of help but I think that will improve with more exposure.

 

[namin96]

He averages below 15 in England and the West Indies - I'd argue that your best ever batsman has to average more than a tail-ender in all Test Match nations; otherwise you're not going to be seen as an all time great.

Incidentally; when India bats first Kohli is terrible (in 33 innings he's scored [email protected]) while when they field first then he's really quite good (in 26 innings he's scored 1,[email protected]). I don't know its that's common in batsmen (although I doubt it otherwise everyone would put the other team in) but that is interesting. Its the same in ODIs but to a much lesser extent (averaging 38.34 batting first and 63.60 batting second) and also in T20s (29.28/80.28). Apparently you should always put India in since it blunts one of their best batsmen... I didn't go look that up, I saw it while looking up his stats batting in England and thought it was quite interesting

e: I looked up another subcontinental batsman (Sangakarra - who's statistically better than Tendulkar in tests) and there isn't that disparity (58.14 batting first, 59.31 batting second). Interesting...

Alright, Kohli has scored 100s in odis in england if you look it up. Yes he got troubled by Anderson in the test series, but I think if India had to play England again this summer in England, Kohli would trash him around the park. I think it was more mental than technical issues with Kohli in that series because in the one test he left a ball and it came back in sharply and knocked off his middle stump so he got a bit uncertain. The kid is really really good and his best is still to come believe it or not. I think he has the best technique in the world better than Amla and DeVilliers. Amla has got a really good technique but I think Kohli is in his own league with his technique and wide range of stroke play (Amla doesn't have a good range of stroke play).

 

[Satan666]

Actually, Virat Kohli toured England in 2011 but only got to play in the odi series. FYI he has multiple odi hundreds in England. If they freaking put him in during the test series, the experience would have helped him on this 2014 tour of England. It was complete bull to keep Gambhir in the line up when he kept edging to slip in the test series in 2011. Yes you have a great point that he is still young and only 26 years old, still has a lot of cricket and I think his best is yet to come believe it or not. Technique wise he is our best batsman in the lineup, the temperament could take a bit of help but I think that will improve with more exposure.

Yeah if you read my post correctly I specified on test cricket only with regards to Virat touring England!!!!

Circa 2011 a famous name in the Indian squad who was failing miserably in test was blocking Virat from playing, non other than Sachin Tendulkar!

I think handing over the cAPTAINCY TO vIRAT IS a mistake, he like Lara like Sachin aren't the leader type players, Virat may slump in performance but like Lara he will eventually rise back to the top!

 

[themusketeer]

I must say Virat spoiling everything for himself by his over the top arrogance. Just listen to what Steve Waugh said "Kohli has to learn the things from Dhoni, How not to react on Off field things. Think only about Winning and performing in field. "

 

[Satan666]

I must say Virat spoiling everything for himself by his over the top arrogance. Just listen to what Steve Waugh said "Kohli has to learn the things from Dhoni, How not to react on Off field things. Think only about Winning and performing in field. "

Coming from a person like Steve Waugh I take it with a pinch of salt, him talking about overly aggressive? Give me a break! The agression is not affecting his style of play or performance so what is the matter? As I posted before let him bat and be the pop star that India needs not the polite captain that the world wants!

 

[abhi_jacko]

Something about Rohit is different since the Australia tour - its like his "responsibility" switch has been flicked on. Hope it stays on

 

[namin96]

Yeah if you read my post correctly I specified on test cricket only with regards to Virat touring England!!!!

Circa 2011 a famous name in the Indian squad who was failing miserably in test was blocking Virat from playing, non other than Sachin Tendulkar!

I think handing over the cAPTAINCY TO vIRAT IS a mistake, he like Lara like Sachin aren't the leader type players, Virat may slump in performance but like Lara he will eventually rise back to the top!

Yeah I think he shouldn't be captain in all formats maybe one might be alright but I don't know. Virat is our best batsman and I think that is enough for us, we shouldn't look for a captain in him. We need him as our best batsman.[DOUBLEPOST=1429295211][/DOUBLEPOST]

Coming from a person like Steve Waugh I take it with a pinch of salt, him talking about overly aggressive? Give me a break! The agression is not affecting his style of play or performance so what is the matter? As I posted before let him bat and be the pop star that India needs not the polite captain that the world wants!

Who could possible captains be for the team? We could make Ashwin the captain in tests.

 

[Aalay]

Sourav Ganguly in race for India coach: Report - The Times of India

Winning abroad to be made priority for new Team India coach | The Indian Express

"We couldn’t beat Australia in a single game in four months and you’re saying the team is doing fine,” a top cricket board official said.

“We need a performance overhaul. Test cricket is hugely important. We would like to see what the new coach brings to the table in terms of improving our performance on the road. India rule world cricket and we can’t let the world mock us as poor travellers. We will take a decision in a fortnight,”

Well that comes as no surprise because Dalmiya is back as the BCCI president. I want to see Rahul Dravid involved in some way. If not as a coach, may be in the selection panel because he has the ability to spot new talent. We are currently ranked at number 7 in ICC test ranking. We need someone who can help us win some test series overseas. We fought well in Australia but couldn't win a single game aginst them on the tour which is frustrating.

 

[SaiSrini]

Frankly with Dhoni still remaining as ODI and T20 captain, Ganguly and Dravid should not be coaching India yet because both of them have been captained by Dhoni. Esp. Ganguly and Dhoni have had their share of rumors that floated around about their relationship when Ganguly made his comeback into the Indian team and Dhoni was the captain at that time. It would be an awkward situation in the dressing room with Ganguly as coach and Dhoni as captain. Could be a similar (maybe slightly better but still similar) situation with Dravid as coach.

Both these guys are still 5 years behind their potential India coaching stints. As far as coaching is concerned, I would opt for some really out of the box options like J Arunkumar who has done really well as Karnataka's coach. Bangar has done well so far and could be promoted as head coach as he is also a quiet character who can be a backroom guy. If going for foreign coaches, if Stephen Fleming can throw his hat on, he would be a good option. He has done an excellent job with CSK and he has a rapport with Dhoni. I dont think Shastri is a long term option.

 

[Satan666]

Kohli under watch for his behaviour: BCCI chief Dalmiya to HT

The veteran cricket administrator said he would himself monitor the new Test captain before deciding whether action needed to be taken over his attitude.

 

[abhi_jacko]

BCCI Seeks Sachin Tendulkar, Sourav Ganguly and Rahul Dravid as Cricket Advisors - Cricket News

This is good news. Cricketing matters being consulted with the stalwarts of the game. Hopefully, at least one of them will have the time to take on this advisory role.

 

[grkrama]

though im a SRT fan , i would prefer dravid for that role, sourav would be gold but he has too much history with MSD.