India tour of England Aug-Sept 2021

[asprin]

Some serious level reverse jinxing by the members if the thread poll is any indication.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

Some serious level reverse jinxing by the members if the thread poll is any indication.

Me and @WutUpMahGlipGlops are on another level for that poll.

 

[CerealKiller]

Me and @WutUpMahGlipGlops are on another level for that poll.

Trying to reverse jinx Covid

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Me and @WutUpMahGlipGlops are on another level for that poll.

You guys deserve a ban IMO for that.

 

[CerealKiller]

Some serious level reverse jinxing by the members if the thread poll is any indication.

I genuinely think India is going to win 4-0.

 

[asprin]

I genuinely think India is going to win 4-0.

10M vCash on the way*


* only it comes true


On a serious note though, how can you say that after witnessing how fragile the middle and lower of India is? Our bowling is proving to be strong but it's the batting that is letting India down big time. I agree that England is struggling at the moment too but they always seem find the Currans and Roots and Ollies to the rescue.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

10M vCash on the way*


* only it comes true


On a serious note though, how can you say that after witnessing how fragile the middle and lower of India is? Our bowling is proving to be strong but it's the batting that is letting India down big time. I agree that England is struggling at the moment too but they always seem find the Currans and Roots and Ollies to the rescue.

Opinion influenced by 2020-21 Australia tour. Infact the whole world is looking at India as some superpower and a side of an incredible belief since then. And I would actually agree to that if we look at the pool of talent and ignore some tactical blunders.

I would say NZ seems to be a stronger side in the longer form of the game followed by India and then England. Australia would probably deserve to be 4th. Sri Lanka, Pakistan, West Indies and Bangladesh all seem to be similar with South Africa a little stronger as compared to these 4 sides. Ireland too can compete given an opportunity while Afghanistan and Zimbabwe seem to be low tier teams with a massive room for improvement.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Moeen might be back.

Moeen Ali set for England recall with Haseeb Hameed in Test reckoning

Moeen Ali looks set for an England recall with Haseeb Hameed also in the thinking for the second Test against India at Lord’s on Thursday

www.theguardian.com

 

[asprin]

Moeen might be back.

My darkest fear has come true

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Spoiler: Dan Lawrence watch

 

[Aislabie]

Moeen might be back.

Moeen Ali set for England recall with Haseeb Hameed in Test reckoning

Moeen Ali looks set for an England recall with Haseeb Hameed also in the thinking for the second Test against India at Lord’s on Thursday

www.theguardian.com

So how does this piece fit in the jigsaw?

1. Rory Burns
2. Dom Sibley
3. Dan Lawrence
4. Joe Root
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Jos Buttler
7. Moeen Ali

This seems most logical if I try to think like an England selector, which probably means I've gone wrong somewhere

 

[wasteyouryouth]

So how does this piece fit in the jigsaw?

1. Rory Burns
2. Dom Sibley
3. Dan Lawrence
4. Joe Root
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Jos Buttler
7. Moeen Ali

This seems most logical if I try to think like an England selector, which probably means I've gone wrong somewhere

Silverwood seemed hint Hameed might come back. Whether that's opening or at 3, who knows.

Burns
?
?
The rest

There's Ollie Pope who might be fit too.

The fact the squad was for the first two tests and now they've called Mo up would suggest they don't know what they're doing. Or, more likely, they are sabotaging Birmingham Phoenix's title chances.

 

[Aislabie]

they don't know what they're doing

 

[Aislabie]

So I've been thinking about spinners.

A mid-20s Nathan Lyon, with a handful of first-class matches under his belt and seemingly little more to offer than Nathan Hauritz, arrived as just the latest guy in a long line of Michael Beers, Xavier Dohertys and Jason Krejzas. Rather than keep chopping and changing, Australia decided to back him. To give him a long leash and trust him with the supporting role to a strong three or four man pace attack. He now has 399 wickets at 32s from 100 Tests.

England had a mid-20s Jack Leach. Unlike Lyon, he had the first-class record to claim with some confidence that he's the best spinner in his country.

Since he arrived he's been dropped variously for Moeen Ali, Dom Bess, Adil Rashid and even Joseph Rootalitharan to act as main spinner instead. Through a combination of this and health problems last winter, he has played only 40% of Tests since his debut. If (big if) he'd played all 40 of those Tests, he'd be sat on about 150 Test wickets at 30 apiece and would be right in the conversation as England's best modern left-arm spinner.

Instead, he's been left out again, for Moeen again, and must be beginning to wonder if his ship has sailed.

What England need to do, ideally with Jack Leach but if that ship sails then with the next spinner, is to just back them. Have them be the fourth/fifth bowler behind Robinson, Mahmood, an all-rounder and a 45-year-old Jimmy Anderson. Tell them that that place in the side is theirs and get them their own coach to work with one-to-one.

It may now be too late for Jack Leach to be England's Nathan Lyon, but it didn't have to be.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Instead, he's been left out again, for Moeen again, and must be beginning to wonder if his ship has sailed.

Moeen has a 10-fer against India followed by a couple of 5 wicket hauls in Test matches. It wasn't about Leach but it's about playing against India.