Indian Premier League - General Discussion

[Bigby Wolf]

SRH peaking too early?

 

[Gaurav_7]

SRH peaking too early?

I don't think. This is one team which has all the three bases covered perfectly. Their bowling had an off day today but look how their batsmen have responded! I hope they aren't peaking too early. I mean they are one team which I think can continue to be consistent.

 

[SaiSrini]

SRH peaking too early?

No. Actually their batting seems to be peaking at the right time, I would say. Their batting has almost been non-existent except for Williamson's consistent display. Today, Dhawan has come to the party. This win should give their batting big confidence.

 

[Velocity]

I really envy SRH fans right now. Must be feeling great to be an SRH fan, with the team looking so well oiled with their bowling and with their batting having the potential (though they have delivered less often than not as a collective group).

I envy CSK , they have a much more balanced team. I predict CSK will win the cup. They have proved they have good pacers, spinners and all-rounders. Everyone in the CSK batting lineup has fired at least twice. SRH middle order this season has been mediocre, at best.

 

[SaiSrini]

I envy CSK , they have a much more balanced team. I predict CSK will win the cup. They have proved they have good pacers, spinners and all-rounders. Everyone in the CSK batting lineup has fired at least twice. SRH middle order this season has been mediocre, at best.

Dont worry dude. A CSK fan cannot jinx SRH. My earlier comment about SRH were purely out of envy and not an attempt to jinx them.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

How on earth did SRH end up giving that many runs to a guy like Pant?

Don't get offended, but I find this post ridiculous. The bloke smoked the best bowling attack in the tournament into submission. Bhuvaneshwar Kumar for me is one of if not the most well rounded bowler in the world and Rishabh had him on his knees. There's no other way to put it! He literally took the yorker out of the picture with all those dinkey shots and they're not easy to play on a tough track against a world class bowler. Had a bloke from CSK specially from Tamil Nadu played this knock, you would've been singing praises!

This was one of if not the performance of the tournament with the bat. I don't like the guy myself at the moment, but credit where it's due. He needs to stop running people out.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Not about his innings today. But I am not a big fan of him (Pant). I totally despise the way he handles his body balance while at the crease. IMHO, his technique looks very ugly and I am NOT optimistic that he would be a success in the international circuit, if he does not change his technique. I rate Ishan Kishan (who played that brilliant innings of 62 yesterday) higher than Pant. And for me, the likes of Samson, Kishan are much higher in the pecking order to be inducted to the national team (after DK of course, who should take up gloves from MSD till DK can play).

Technique?

Jesus Christ are you serious?!!? I'll list you about 10 cricketers right now with god awful techniques who've made it HUGE in cricket, let alone sport!

For starters, take a look at the man in your avatar? Pant's problem is his attitude, not technique.

 

[SaiSrini]

Don't get offended, but I find this post ridiculous. The bloke smoked the best bowling attack in the tournament into submission. Bhuvaneshwar Kumar for me is one of if not the most well rounded bowler in the world and Rishabh had him on his knees. There's no other way to put it! He literally took the yorker out of the picture with all those dinkey shots and they're not easy to play on a tough track against a world class bowler. Had a bloke from CSK specially from Tamil Nadu played this knock, you would've been singing praises!

This was one of if not the performance of the tournament with the bat. I don't like the guy myself at the moment, but credit where it's due. He needs to stop running people out.

The way that track played, obviously it had a lot of runs and the Delhi top order obviously did not cash in on that. My thing with Pant is, on his day (which I dont think is likely to come often seeing how he bats), he will smoke you out of the attack and look spectacular. But on average days, he will look stupid or won't move a thing. Such inconsistency is something I find it hard to appreciate/follow.

I am actually surprised that you think I have a 'state based' bias towards players. I really don't. Yes, I follow my state's IPL team but when it comes to following talents for India, I have enjoyed watching and supporting other talents.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

SRH peaking too early?

CSK will win this tournament. It's not about peaking or momentum and all these fancy theories. CSK know how to win majors. Their captain is not just a captain, he's a leader of men. His staunchest fans believed he was done in the format and he's currently made as many runs as the best batsman in our country with a S/R of 165-170 compared to the captain's 135-140. His average is almost double of his. The biggest thing about him is his temperament. He understands the value of success but doesn't obsess over it. I'm a believer in destiny and about a year ago there was a lot of jib jab about MSD 2.0? This is MSD 2.0. More venomous, equally consistent. I hope the bodyguard and his idol are watching because if this doesn't convince them to bat him at 4, nothing will.

 

[SaiSrini]

Technique?

Jesus Christ are you serious?!!? I'll list you about 10 cricketers right now with god awful techniques who've made it HUGE in cricket, let alone sport!

For starters, take a look at the man in your avatar? Pant's problem is his attitude, not technique.

Dhoni, even with his unorthodox technique, looked way better when he burst into the scene, than Pant. And trust me I have been actively and passionately following Indian cricket since 1996.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

The way that track played, obviously it had a lot of runs and the Delhi top order obviously did not cash in on that. My thing with Pant is, on his day (which I dont think is likely to come often seeing how he bats), he will smoke you out of the attack and look spectacular. But on average days, he will look stupid or won't move a thing. Such inconsistency is something I find it hard to appreciate/follow.

I am actually surprised that you think I have a 'state based' bias towards players. I really don't. Yes, I follow my state's IPL team but when it comes to following talents for India, I have enjoyed watching and supporting other talents.

I have noticed it, may be I am wrong. And I don't know if it was my assessment but that wicket changed a lot in the second innings. The ball was gripping and stopping a lot in the first innings specially till the 15 over mark. I feel DD got unlucky but they have themselves to blame for batting first.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Dhoni, even with his unorthodox technique, looked way better when he burst into the scene, than Pant. And trust me I have been actively and passionately following Indian cricket since 1996.

We both have been cricket tragics. I think technique is overrated and Dhoni has/had an awful one. I see temperament above everything else. It's only my opinion but I think Pant has a better technique compared to what Dhoni has even today. If anything, Pant reminds me a lot of a bloke called Yuvraj Singh.

Mind you, of all these young keeper batsmen I'm a fan of Ishan Kishan. He's just a treat to watch but I think Pant is more dynamic and makes more impact.

 

[Gaurav_7]

I have noticed it, may be I am wrong. And I don't know if it was my assessment but that wicket changed a lot in the second innings. The ball was gripping and stopping a lot in the first innings specially till the 15 over mark. I feel DD got unlucky but they have themselves to blame for batting first.

Yep the pitch did actually look very tough when DD batted, at least for the first 10 overs.

 

[Velocity]

Dont worry dude. A CSK fan cannot jinx SRH. My earlier comment about SRH were purely out of envy and not an attempt to jinx them.

I wasn't trying to jinx them either but I was being honest. I agree with @LiveLoveABD , CSK has always fired in the big games and they know when to peak. Over depending on Williamson and Dhawan for batting will not win SRH the cup. Chennai performs well in the knockout games, and add to that they have a very dynamic side. Almost every member has contributed something to the team.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

I wasn't trying to jinx them either but I was being honest. I agree with @LiveLoveABD , CSK has always fired in the big games and they know when to peak. Over depending on Williamson and Dhawan for batting will not win SRH the cup. Chennai performs well in the knockout games, and add to that they have a very dynamic side. Almost every member has contributed something to the team.

CSK has a dynamic side? I'll disagree to the hilt. They're a very very average side. BUT they are the most stable side who will utilise every ounce of resource they have! I don't intend to sound boring but the likes of Watson, Rayudu, Bravo with the bat etc. are not 'dynamic' per se. But, they have a leader who makes them believe they're dynamic. CSK are not winning games with performances from 1/2 individuals. A number of individuals have won them a game or two each. That is their strength year in and year out. I'll go as far as saying that this is the worst bowling attack CSK has ever had but just look at the way they have maximised their batting prowess. Even while Dhoni has changed the team around, he's kept the core as stable as before! He even got Kedar Jadhav to optimise his season by getting a win out of him! My only criticism of him is him playing Faf ahead of Sam.. I thought Billings was batting really well and he looks like the sort of cricketer ready for big things while Faf is clearly on the way down. May be just some game time for Faf in case of an injury. I also feel Rayudu should bat at the top!