Indian Premier League - General Discussion

[NILAYSHAH60]

I don't understand this Rahul criticism on yesterday's knock. I think LSG were very much in the game only for the way he played. He played a very calculated innings and certainly could've won it by going absolutely insane in the last 3-4 overs.

On some days it's just that the bowling is too good at the death. Hazlewood did really well to take 2 wickets in his last over IMO.

Also the criticism on Vohra is something absolutely unasked for. I think he was the one who really brought some momentum into the innings once De Kock got out. Tbh I don't think Manish Pandey would've done any better and would've infact chewed a lot of deliveries. He's just not built for T20s!!

 

[asprin]

Also the criticism on Vohra is something absolutely unasked for

Partly agree. To be fair to him, he did strike at 170+ but playing him out of the blue was questionable. A better option would have been to send Ewin Lewis out there. His skill set was of no use coming in so low down the order. Absolute waste of a precious overseas slot I would say.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Partly agree. To be fair to him, he did strike at 170+ but playing him out of the blue was questionable. A better option would have been to send Ewin Lewis out there. His skill set was of no use coming in so low down the order. Absolute waste of a precious overseas slot I would say.

Dropping Jason Holder was questionable. Also, I think they were planning to play Vohra and that is the reason why he was included in the playing XI in LSG's previous game as well.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Vohra being criticised is basically another set of keyboard warriors typing gibberish. He did absolutely okay. I think he made 20 odd of 10 which is what was needed and it was his first hit in the tournament. The real question is why he was batting ahead of Lewis and why Badoni was dropped?

Not playing Holder in any format on any ground in today's time is a sin. LSG batting line up was a throwback and fairly accurate hangover of KKR's glory days. Nobody knew who was batting where. Not even GG. I remember a season he randomly started batting 3. Vividly recall a game where he did not open and had to come and finish a game and looked completely out of depth.

I feel in T20 cricket, your openers should be a given followed by someone who is chosen to attack the PP or if a wicket falls after the PP then someone for the middle. For example, I am not a fan of batting numbers in this format and I feel that India should open with Rahul and Rohit with Kohli at 3 if a wicket falls in the PP. If it happens after that, then SKY at 3. The situation or over number should dictate the batting number. Not the other way round.

The difference last night was a combination of Patidar's excellence, Rahul's failure to finish and most importantly the fielding. RCB were 15+ in the field. Even Hasaranga was all over the place. LSG cost themselves at least 20-30 runs with the dropped catches. We are talking about a good 40-50 run swing here.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Tbh, LSG needed like 35 of 18 balls after Harshal Patel bowled those 5 wides, so they should have won it hands down from there but that did not happen. I agree Lewis should have batter in place of Vohra. It was LSG's batting order chaos which cost them the match!

 

[Velocity]

Also the criticism on Vohra is something absolutely unasked for. I think he was the one who really brought some momentum into the innings once De Kock got out. Tbh I don't think Manish Pandey would've done any better and would've infact chewed a lot of deliveries. He's just not built for T20s!!

Seems like you're referencing the comment I made yesterday which you've taken out of context here. To be fair, I don't think anyone criticised Vohra's innings on here, including myself.

It's the fact that Lucknow, pretty much clear in the playoffs decide to drop Ayush Badoni and replace him with Vohra. If you've stuck with this young guy throughout the season and you're guranteed a place in the playoffs, does that warrant playing an opening batsman out of position in the middle order? Makes zero sense. Vohra did what he could but he's an OPENER. If they wanted a genuine #3, you've got a guy in Manish Pandey who hasn't been given a consistent run in the side when he's trying to get back to the international scene.

Now again you can say he woulda, coulda, shoulda, but Lucknow shot themselves in the foot with all those changes in their batting order anyways, plus those dropped catches yesterday. Dropping Holder and Badoni for the playoff stage was baffling.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

The real question is why he was batting ahead of Lewis

It might sound a little odd but I don't think we have a place for Lewis in any of the IPL teams let alone Lucknow. Evin Lewis is ideally an opener and being played most of his career as an opener he is pretty much comfortable over there and looks clueless batting at rest of the positions. I know he won a game for LSG but that was just an innings in a blue moon.

In India we have a lot of accumulators who just know to bat the inings and it becomes important for them to bat as high as possible. I think we have enough local talent to find an opening pair for all 10 teams in this league.

Even currently we can make those opening pairs

CSK- Ruturaj / Uthappa
DC- Shaw / Bharat
MI- Rohit / Kishan
RCB- Kohli / Anuj Rawat
RR- Yashasvi / Paddikal
KKR- Venkatesh Iyer / Rahane
PBKS- Dhawan / Mayank
SRH- Garg / Abhishek
GT- Gill / Saha
LSG- KLR / Vohra

Plus the plethora of Overseas openers like Roy, Billings, Warner, Bairstow, Livingstone, De Kock, Du Plessis, Conway, etc etc.

Tbh Evin Lewis is a gun player but I am surprised why would we even need him here at the IPL?

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Seems like you're referencing the comment I made yesterday which you've taken out of context here.

You should stop assuming on behalf of others is all I can say.

 

[GOKUL RAJ K]

Till 2021

 

[wasteyouryouth]

I don't understand this Rahul criticism on yesterday's knock. I think LSG were very much in the game only for the way he played. He played a very calculated innings and certainly could've won it by going absolutely insane in the last 3-4 overs.

On some days it's just that bowling that is too good at the death. Hazlewood did really well to take 2 wickets in his last over IMO.

Also the criticism on Vohra is something absolutely unasked for. I think he was the one who really brought some momentum into the innings once De Kock got out. Tbh I don't think Manish Pandey would've done any better and would've infact chewed a lot of deliveries. He's just not built for T20s!!

It's the fine margins of T20 cricket.

If your team wins your average innings looks better than if your team loses. Particularly apparent when a guy played a similar amount of deliveries but scored many more.

I'm sure there's a mathematical approach to how many balls before it becomes costly to your team. He might have faced three more balls, got them past the boundary and that's the win and it looks like a great innings. If RCB had lost then the spotlight might have been on Kohli's innings but instead, you could say, he played a calculated innings that laid the foundations for the middle order after losing an early wicket.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Till 2021
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Rajasthan might become the 2nd team.

 

[GOKUL RAJ K]

Rajasthan might become the 2nd team.

Maybe they have chance if they win in qualifier 2

 

[wasteyouryouth]

The worse thing about the Women's T20 Challenge is all the worst commentators from the IPL are on it.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

You should stop assuming on behalf of others is all I can say.

Nice Touche mate.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

KP Navgire, in her first innings, has just hit a 25 ball 50 (60 from 26 so far). Dispatching international bowlers for sixes. Think she might be in Indian colours soon.