Indian tour of South Africa, December-January 2010/11

[Dare]

Nope. Hypothetically, if a team wins 3 matches in a series, each by 1 run, is that a dominant victory?

Yea but its not by 1 run. First one was by and innings and what? Second one is looking closer with both teams in for the win. You cant speak hypothetically about something that has already happened.

 

[Adarsh]

For goodness sake what is wrong with you guys ? You're acting like little kids. All he means is that a 3-0 scoreline might suggest that India did not challenge SA at all, whereas at the moment they're giving them some problems. That is all.

 

[shripathee]

Did not expect SA to fold up so easily. To be frank, there was not as much assistance for the bowlers as it was in the first day. It's just one of those days when everything went wrong for SA.
If India are to win this match, Laxman has to play one of his V.V.S knocks. Both Laxman and Pujara are leaving the ball extremely well. If they can concentrate hard enough they can build a big partnership. The new ball is still 50 overs away. So they need not dread Steyn.

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

Ha ye that was a funny quote. It seems apprantley if SA doe end up winning 3-0. The fact that IND in 1 innings bowled out SA for 131 will overide the fact that they would have been whitewashed.

earlier in this thread you weren't even prepared to give teams full credit for winning test series clearly and now you're taking the stance that a series domination should look no closer than at the overall score.

bangla beat the windies 2-0, winning both tests clearly, but that didn't count because of contract disputes. but SA beating india 3-0 regardless of the score in the matches is domination. inconsistent to say the least. you seem to be incapable of judging any sort of fact objectively, you decide what should happen and the actual events have to be manipulated to agree with you.

 

[Dare]

earlier in this thread you weren't even prepared to give teams full credit for winning test series clearly and now you're taking the stance that a series domination should look no closer than at the overall score.

bangla beat the windies 2-0, winning both tests clearly, but that didn't count because of contract disputes. but SA beating india 3-0 regardless of the score in the matches is domination. inconsistent to say the least. you seem to be incapable of judging any sort of fact objectively, you decide what should happen and the actual events have to be manipulated to agree with you.

He said even if we lose 3-0 it wont look like we got dominated but for all we know South Africa could win this test by 10 wickets and dominate the last one too, how would you call that one?

Anyways for the sake of the Indian team its good that they have a shot to win this test but it still doesn't say much about their batsman. Unless Laxman and Pujara pull off a 100 run stand it will go down as another failure.

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

of course they could, and then ok, they got dominated, but SA are as likely to dominate india as they are to get dominated, right now, it seems a bit presumptious.


it's like the australia india series recently, I wouldn't say india dominated australia, they needed a big 9th wicket partnership to win the 1st test.

however, I was commenting on the fact that earlier War wasn't happy about a team getting full credit for beating a team because one team had injuries and yet now is prepared to say that regardless of what happens in matches 3-0 equals domination. which I think is inconsistent logic and kinda exposes the fact that he's willing to take any stance that allows him to discredit whoever he doesn't like.

 

[Sobi]

LOL

whats the lol for? you laughing at the SA's position at 131? I guess so. or you are just gone insane by looking at the Indian miracle. Now that calls out for LOL!!

 

[aditya123]

whats the lol for? you laughing at the SA's position at 131? I guess so. or you are just gone insane by looking at the Indian miracle. Now that calls out for LOL!!

We could wait till more of the action unfolds, can we? Lets gloat if we actually go on and capitalize on that 131 all out. Sometimes, this is what gets we Indian fans into trouble and people rub it on when we don`t do well.

 

[Prithvi]

Things are going well for India. All India has to do now is go and post some total which makes them get 300 runs lead and bowl well!

 

[War]

earlier in this thread you weren't even prepared to give teams full credit for winning test series clearly and now you're taking the stance that a series domination should look no closer than at the overall score.

bangla beat the windies 2-0, winning both tests clearly, but that didn't count because of contract disputes. but SA beating india 3-0 regardless of the score in the matches is domination. inconsistent to say the least. you seem to be incapable of judging any sort of fact objectively, you decide what should happen and the actual events have to be manipulated to agree with you.

I have dine or said nothing of the sort.

As already mentioned in this thread. SA have already smoked India in 1st test, so unless the definition & understanding of "series domination" was recently changed. Then SA have clearly dominated the 1st test. So what credit does India dserve for being dominated to such an extent?.

Secondly this test match is still going on, so no judgement can be cased currently. But even if a hypoteyical scenario occurs where IND give SA 300 to win - the saffies win. Then SA go on to win convincingly in capetown to complete to whitewash. How would IND deserve any credit in any way in such a scenario?.

I give you the examples of AUS beating SRI 3-0 in 2003/04 & AUS beating Pakistan in the famous Hobart 99/00 test.

SRI lost the first two test from dominate positions & the 3rd test from a close position. But nobody acknowledges or gives them credit for that. People simly remember SRI where whitewashed by AUS @ home.

PAK in the famous test. Played brilliantly to set AUS 369 to win in that 2nd test. But AUS chased it down (albiet with some decisions going AUS way). Of course no one remembers of gives PAK credit for that, it simply goes down as they were hammered 3-0.


Finally haha if you want to give BANG credit for being a Windies D-team go right ahead sir. Pretty confident no windies support would support you on that one.

 

[sami ullah khan]

I have dine or said nothing of the sort.

As already mentioned in this thread. SA have already smoked India in 1st test, so unless the definition & understanding of "series domination" was recently changed. Then SA have clearly dominated the 1st test. So what credit does India dserve for being dominated to such an extent?.

Secondly this test match is still going on, so no judgement can be cased currently. But even if a hypoteyical scenario occurs where IND give SA 300 to win - the saffies win. Then SA go on to win convincingly in capetown to complete to whitewash. How would IND deserve any credit in any way in such a scenario?.

I give you the examples of AUS beating SRI 3-0 in 2003/04 & AUS beating Pakistan in the famous Hobart 99/00 test.

SRI lost the first two test from dominate positions & the 3rd test from a close position. But nobody acknowledges or gives them credit for that. People simly remember SRI where whitewashed by AUS @ home.

PAK in the famous test. Played brilliantly to set AUS 369 to win in that 2nd test. But AUS chased it down (albiet with some decisions going AUS way). Of course no one remembers of gives PAK credit for that, it simply goes down as they were hammered 3-0.


Finally haha if you want to give BANG credit for being a Windies D-team go right ahead sir. Pretty confident no windies support would support you on that one.

How can I forget that fat joke of an umpire, Sir Parker.

 

[used2bcool]

For goodness sake what is wrong with you guys ? You're acting like little kids. All he means is that a 3-0 scoreline might suggest that India did not challenge SA at all, whereas at the moment they're giving them some problems. That is all.

Trolly Trolls are generally little kids or people with the equivalent IQ of little kids. When they have already decided to throw all objectivity out of the window, I see no point in replying to their inane drivel.

I kept telling you guys to ignore the Trolly Trolls yet we keep falling in the same trap. [end rant]

 

[Gaurav_7]

This match has done a pendulum till now. More towards SA now with Pujara gone. Was hoping to see him stay there for a bit longer.

 

[aditya123]

This is South Africa`s to lose from here on. India don`t have too much batting left to get to that 250 or 300 run lead. I also expect the SA batting to stand up in the second innings, especially Smith and Kallis. It looks all nicely set up for a 2-0 lead here inspite of that first innings bowling effort. We really have ourselves to blame for this crappy batting display.

 

[Gaurav_7]

I'm only expecting Dhoni to play his natural game which I think everyone would be doing. No point in staying out there and blocking everything. As Ravi said, if he can get some quick runs India can put up a good enough total.