India's tour of Australia - December/January 2015

[abhi_jacko]

Rohit better be replaced. I dont care who comes in. I dont want to see his name in the XI. Since he is so "talented" he should just retire and turn coach

We can give another run to three pacers, but they need to work on discipline. Why cant Ishant bowl those good lines consistently ?

 

[themusketeer]

I am still gunning for a MSD replacement as captain and India would do well with a new leader. There is absolutely no harm in trying it out, even though the World Cup is looming. Look what England have done recently.

So You are Comparing Cook with MSD
In ODIs ....hmmmmmmmmmm

Under the Captaincy Of this Man:

*India Won All the ICC Main Events.
*No.1 ODI team.
*INDIA won the World cup After 28 years.
*Played a Captain's Knock in Final to ensure his team wins comfortably.

*Win/Lose percentage of india Is Better than Australia and SA in recent 5 years.

I can show you some more stats and Incidents and Will prove You why he is the best ODI captain India ever Had.

I'd have gotten Gautam Gambhir back and maybe even as Test captain for a short while

Give this team to the world's Best captain in Your View and I guarantee you He will Fail too (Test).

But I am not going to argue on Test Captain.

 

[namin96]

No hopes remaining. This team is highly incapable of performing abroad.

I am still gunning for a MSD replacement as captain and India would do well with a new leader. There is absolutely no harm in trying it out, even though the World Cup is looming. Look what England have done recently.

One of the statements made by the Indian captain was about Virat Kohli being given only 5-7 minutes to get ready. What is this ? Stupid complaints ? You get lesser time in a T20. And why was Virat not ready ? Or did he think it was impossible for Dhawan to get out.

Dramatic changes are required in the next test; starting with Rohit '2 minute' Sharma. Raina is a neccesity in Melbourne. The opening slot is again a problematic zone. Although , I still dont vote for KL Rahul's debut; I'd have gotten Gautam Gambhir back and maybe even as Test captain for a short while (Virat needs to maintain his cool). I am quite confident with the bowlers. Its just that the fielders need to support their bowlers.

Please quit criticizing Dhoni's captaincy! Honestly the people who keep criticizing Dhoni's captaincy just don't really understand the truth. The truth is it's not Dhoni's fault, the bowlers were doing really good on the 3rd day in the morning and in fact Dhoni had such good field placements and then the bowlers ruin the progress by consistently bowling short to Johnson instead of focusing on the same line and length that brought them success earlier. This match is a perfect example of how it's not Dhoni's fault that we are on the losing side once again, the players simply need to seize opportunities and convert. This is not a one man game that we just blame Dhoni for all this and then try and get rid of him from the captaincy. Please people need to understand that when bowlers perform like they should at Lords for example, Dhoni can win you the match with his agressiveness and we saw that at Lords, then the batsman ruined the series by not contributing and it was just Dhoni making runs. His overseas record is as bad as it is due to the performance of the bowlers and batsman.

 

[namin96]

So You are Comparing Cook with MSD
In ODIs ....hmmmmmmmmmm

Under the Captaincy Of this Man:

*India Won All the ICC Main Events.
*No.1 ODI team.
*INDIA won the World cup After 28 years.
*Played a Captain's Knock in Final to ensure his team wins comfortably.

*Win/Lose percentage of india Is Better than Australia and SA in recent 5 years.

I can show you some more stats and Incidents and Will prove You why he is the best ODI captain India ever Had.








Give this team to the world's Best captain in Your View and I guarantee you He will Fail too (Test).

But I am not going to argue on Test Captain.

Icyman, please we don't need that guy Gambhir back. He just sucked and his technique is trash. I don't even want to see him back he's just as bad as Rohit Sharma.

 

[PokerAce]

Guys look at the side India have. Vijay, Dhawan, Pujara, Kohli, Rahan and MSD. Thats the side. Everyone else passengers, every run they score and every wicket they take - a bonus.

This side is not ready to compete away in the slightest. 2 more matches to go on this torrid run, bite it out. Aussies look good just a month ago they couldn't score a run to save their lives.

India's wins will come, however, right now the side is not ready. The new guard first need a good run at home before they can start performing away. Sadly for them, they have been playing away series after away series for all long as one can remember. Let them the get a winning run going at home first. Once that base is ready only then can a side start winning away.

2 more tests to go. The experience gained from these two tests and indeed the whole run will be invaluable one year down the line. Just bite it out for 2 more matches.

 

[_Sam_]

Dhoni no matter how good he is at limited overs comes across as a dreadful test captain.

 

[SaiSrini]

No hopes remaining. This team is highly incapable of performing abroad.

I am still gunning for a MSD replacement as captain and India would do well with a new leader. There is absolutely no harm in trying it out, even though the World Cup is looming. Look what England have done recently.

One of the statements made by the Indian captain was about Virat Kohli being given only 5-7 minutes to get ready. What is this ? Stupid complaints ? You get lesser time in a T20. And why was Virat not ready ? Or did he think it was impossible for Dhawan to get out.

Dramatic changes are required in the next test; starting with Rohit '2 minute' Sharma. Raina is a neccesity in Melbourne. The opening slot is again a problematic zone. Although , I still dont vote for KL Rahul's debut; I'd have gotten Gautam Gambhir back and maybe even as Test captain for a short while (Virat needs to maintain his cool). I am quite confident with the bowlers. Its just that the fielders need to support their bowlers.

Although I agree with your line of thinking with regards to Dhoni's test captaincy, Dhoni is still the best guy to lead India in ODI's right now, especially with the World Cup being the next tournament in line in a few months. But his test captaincy is dreadful. I know there are some seriously "Dhoni is the best captain in all formats" fanatics here, but if you see the difference between Adelaide and Brisbane, you can see the difference with the captaincy. Its just not what you see on the field from the captain. Its also what happens back in the dressing room. Dhoni comes out and complains that Dhawan's injury created unrest in the dressing room. Really? Seriously? Imagine if Kohli was the leader and this same thing happens, Kohli would have pumped his players up (due to his aggressive attitude) and India probably would not have fallen down as badly. Yes India lost at Adelaide, but they risked it by going for the win and they lost. Under Dhoni, India would have lost but the worst part is that they would have lost even though they were going for safety (trying for the draw).

Wish Dhoni's test captaincy lasts for only two more tests. After this, we head to the tri-series and then into the WC. I am seriously expecting a change post the WC. If that does not happen, god save Indian cricket!

 

[grkrama]

ummm last i checked we got six wickets.. dont know how thats not going for it...

difference between two matches virat scored.. virat didnt score..

mitch didnt fire.. mitch was fired up by NH sharma.


pep talks are overrated since world war 2

 

[SaiSrini]

India should have won atleast a test by now, which they haven't. This is surely heading down another 4-0 rout. This is the time when India lose all their gas completely. You would hope they might learn from their past experiences, but if they had, what did they learn from their twin 4-0 routs to England and Australia in 2011-12? Zinch, zero!

If I were the captain for India, I would be seething with anger at the way we lost this match, and I would give a very harsh speech to the boys asking them to buckle up and give it back to the opposition really hard the next game. Such aggression most often works especially during defeats like this. But I absolutely dont expect Dhoni to do any of that. And as a result, the team is probably going to be feeling low come the next match, and are probably going to play right down into Johnson's zone.

 

[SaiSrini]

ummm last i checked we got six wickets.. dont know how thats not going for it...

difference between two matches virat scored.. virat didnt score..

mitch didnt fire.. mitch was fired up by NH sharma.

pep talks are overrated since world war 2

Wow.... taking 6 wkts means India were going for it? Well, India didn't have the option of shutting shop and playing for a draw with the kind of performance they gave while batting. You set the opposition a target of 128 with 1 and a half days to go and you talk about "India went for it because they took 6 wkts".

Also BCCI should probably ask CA to switch off stump mic conversations. It shows Dhoni in even worse light. As per one of the earlier posters here, Dhoni tells Ishant Sharma (translating it to English), "You bowl the way you want to. If it goes for a four, its not my problem, its yours". What a wonderful way to seed uncertainty in the bowler's mind and thereby dent his mindset/confidence..

 

[grkrama]

im sure we have had much worse were it would have been 128/0.. so ya it was refreshing after that batting performance especially. dhoni was pretty aggressive in this match on the whole he cant bowl for our bowlers if they cant get tail out.


the fields he set up were pretty effective i would say both in 1 st and 2 nd innings were it was really well mixed up.

 

[shravi]

as much as i like to criticize dhoni's defensive test captaincy, this match doesn't really allow me to do that. he was almost too aggressive. In Australia's first innings, he persisted with the short ball tactic vs Mitchell Johnson for too long, rather than going for a much simple strategy of finding the edge. I was also pleased to see that we took 6 wickets in Australia's second innings. We fought when I expected us to crumble and Australia to coast to 128/0. One change for the next match- Rohit out, Jadeja/Raina in. I don't think it's possible to drop Ishant after this match, even though he was the worst bowler for the majority of the match. Perhaps Bhuvi can come in for Aaron as well, but I kind of hope that they don't give up on Aaron so fast.

 

[SaiSrini]

From last I heard, Bhuvi was out of the entire series. I don't see him coming in.

For Melbourne, I want to see Raina coming in for Rohit and maybe Shami returning for Aaron. Aaron has been indiscplined for two games in a row now, and seriously deserves the bench. Well atleast they tried him and he failed. I dont see Dhawan being dropped now after that 81 effort. Hope he clickes in the next two games, as I expect Vijay might taper off similar to how he did in the England tour.

 

[Yuvi.]

For an Oz note , Joe Burns replaces injured Mitchell Marsh.
That may be a Burning News for if You are an Oz supporter but Coach Darren Lehmanna has some faith in the Queensland Player as he quoted that he had coached Burns Himself and sees a Long Run Horse in Burns as a Test Cricketer.

 

[icyman]

So You are Comparing Cook with MSD
In ODIs ....hmmmmmmmmmm

Under the Captaincy Of this Man:

The problem carries forth from Test matches abroad to ODIs abroad. His field placements are pathetic and the same carries itself over to ODI tournaments wherein we lose. ODIs in the subcontinent is a different ball game altogether. But just compare his captaincy during the Tri-Series of 2011-12 and you will undertsand why we need a different leader.

Btw, for all those who think we are capable of defending this Cup, you surely have high hopes. Its an almost impossible task for our team to go beyond the QFs.

Please quit criticizing Dhoni's captaincy! Honestly the people who keep criticizing Dhoni's captaincy just don't really understand the truth. The truth is it's not Dhoni's fault, the bowlers were doing really good on the 3rd day in the morning and in fact Dhoni had such good field placements and then the bowlers ruin the progress by consistently bowling short to Johnson instead of focusing on the same line and length that brought them success earlier. This match is a perfect example of how it's not Dhoni's fault that we are on the losing side once again, the players simply need to seize opportunities and convert. This is not a one man game that we just blame Dhoni for all this and then try and get rid of him from the captaincy. Please people need to understand that when bowlers perform like they should at Lords for example, Dhoni can win you the match with his agressiveness and we saw that at Lords, then the batsman ruined the series by not contributing and it was just Dhoni making runs. His overseas record is as bad as it is due to the performance of the bowlers and batsman.

Good field placements ?

Who instructs the bowlers to bowl short and pepper Johnson with bouncers ?

I can bring up instances from the past that this guy has ruined India's chances in many matches by simply relaxing and allowing the opposition to pile on runs,when we ideally should have gotten rid of them quickly.

His continued persistence of turning to his part-timers when he should really be tossing the ball to his strikes bowlers is a recurring phenomenon.

You talk about Lords, I can give you 15+ Test matches that this guy has lost for us. MSD is spineless when it comes to attack and IMO he deserves the boot. Watch the first Test at Adelaide and you will see what kind of energy we carried onto the ground under Virat. That is something that is missing under MSD.

Btw, Apart from the last series in England he hasn't really been able to bail out our team with his batting as well.