thedon5
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Speaking of which, I still have no idea why The Avengers is considered good. One of the most average films I've seen, just your typical action flick except there are some superheros.
Speaking of which, I still have no idea why The Avengers is considered good. One of the most average films I've seen, just your typical action flick except there are some superheros.
I don't think TDKR ever claimed to be a storytelling masterpiece ! The movie was promoted as a summer blockbuster, and as the final conclusion to Nolan's batman trilogy, and that is exactly what we got.
How Bruce Wayne got to Gotham after escaping the pit ? Its been a while since I watched it, but lets see. He survived for years on his own in lifeless landscapes while he was studying crime and criminals in Batman Begins. So survival is hardly a problem. Other than that, despite being technically "broke" one can safely assume that Bruce has plenty of important/useful contacts who could arrange for his transport. He literally had a guy airlift him of a building in the middle of Hong Kong downtown in TDK (what a scene!!).
Cinematic liberty ? Yes. Plot hole ? Nope
I find it to be a good film, maybe even great, but the main thing is, it doesn't claim to be something it's not like TDKR, it's not a storytelling masterpiece, but it's not mindless action/destruction porn either, in the superhero film sphere, The Avengers is king, that is still what I believe you want in a superhero movie, it's an ensemble film where each and every character plays some sort of role in pushing the story (however weak you may find it), while TDK is the best in the genre, The Avengers is my favorite.
I'd totally 100% agree with this but I'd also throw the two other batman films in with TDKR. Honestly, it was a billionaire, dressed as a bat, running about fighting baddies dressed as scarecrows and clowns. the first one was an ok origins story, the second one was saved only by heath ledger giving a genuinely brilliant turn as the joker but still bad, and the third was utter garbage. it took itself so seriously it was embarrassing.
the avengers by comparison was genuinely funny, suprising, beautiful and exciting. There was loads of properly good jokes and it managed to really flesh out the characters really well because the dialogue was original and witty. Batman just rambled on and one about choices and defining people with michael caine popping up to offer some metaphor just in case you didn't get how much your choices define you.
I can't wait to see the new avengers because it will be a ton of fun and will sit through the old one if it's on TV for some of the jokes, I wouldn't watch the TDKR again if you paid me.