Limiting Piracy of Cricket Games

[barmyarmy]

That's L4. The online issue was probably L2 I agree but that's not core to the game.

 

[superfreddie]

That's L4. The online issue was probably L2 I agree but that's not core to the game.

Not core to the game, if it says it has online play but you can't play it online, surely that's a big part of the game, especially if you buy games to primarily play online.

 

[barmyarmy]

Agreed but it doesn't stop it being a functioning cricket game.

 

[cricket_online]

That's L4. The online issue was probably L2 I agree but that's not core to the game.

Agreed but it doesn't stop it being a functioning cricket game.

Come on that was as big a bug I have seen. I bought the game only for online gameplay and was bitterly disappointed. If a similar think happens with Madden or FIFA series, EA will never hear the end of it. These days online gameplay is a huge part of the game and is one thing which lends longevity to the game. To claim the game supports "online gameplay" when it clearly didn't was unacceptable.

The developers/publishers got away coz cricket fans are starved of cricket games and didn't want to stir up trouble for maybe the only company that was still producing cricket titles. Else they would have been forced to come out with a patch for fixing the broken online gameplay or refund folks who bought the game.

 

[barmyarmy]

I don't believe that you bought the game purely for online. You bought it cos, like the rest of us, you were starved for choice. Had it not had online most people would still have bought it.

 

[cricket_online]

I don't believe that you bought the game purely for online. You bought it cos, like the rest of us, you were starved for choice. Had it not had online most people would still have bought it.

Actually did it mostly for online gameplay. When I found out it was broken online reverted back to AC09. And since the time AC09 servers were taken away have been playing Madden online.

But to your point even if I had known it was broken online I would have still bought it just like I would both Big Ant and AC13 so we can get more cricket games.

 

[Biggs]

I think there's very few people that would buy a cricket game JUST for online gameplay. You'd be the exception to the norm based on what I've read on these forums for 5 years...

I find it impossible to disagree with Biggs here. It might be deemed 'unethical' to release a game with bugs, but no-one is forcing anyone to buy a game.
you choose to buy it having not played it before or waiting for trusted reviews etc you have no one to blame but yourself if you are not happy with purchase.

Exactly, and here's the thing... you DON'T have to buy ANYTHING. It's all a choice, if you don't make an informed one then it's your fault. If you buy a game by reading the box alone, then you're foolish. Check websites for reviews, play-test it in-store and ask friends for their thoughts? Gaming isn't an ENTITLEMENT it's a hobby and you don't get to have ALL the games. Be selective and make informed decisions...

I recently purchased Assassin's Creed III and, long story short, it's a HUGE disappointment for me. What I had read online, seen in gameplay demos and heard from friends simply didn't live up to my own expectations. Now, that's a PERSONAL opinion. I know lots of other people love the thing, but it's not for me. The game was full of bugs and some unplayable sections which drew me out of the game on a regular basis. Do I blame UbiSoft for this? Of course not... I highly doubt they willingly released a bug-filled game into the market, they had plenty of day one patches, but I highly doubt they deliberately would mess with such an iconic, important brand for them. It's just bad luck and (more likely) a rushed timeline which meant they couldn't do their usual polishing.

...at the end of the day, I brought the game so the decision of who to blame rests on me, as the individual, not the developer. Sure, it's not great to have a bug-filled game, but they've now fixed those issues and had I waited a little longer, I would've read the reviews about the bug-issues and waited until they had patched-out the problems.

Again, it's this "entitlement" attitude... Just be a smart buyer and recognize that if what you're getting isn't what you thought it was, the only person to blame is yourself, clock it up to just one of lifes lessons.

 

[deepuparayil]

I understand how the business in general works, though I don't have much insight into gaming. It was good to hear your perspective. And just to be clear, I wasn't specifically talking about any of your games, because I haven't played them and haven't heard of any P1 or P2s in them.

If my memory serves me right, it was Cricket 2004 that I bought, and found out within 5 mins of playing the game that the AI gets run out all the time. There was no way to bowl in that game without having the AI run itself out. That was a P2 where an entire feature was totally broken. Yet, they decided to ship with that. It was absolutely unethical of EA to ship that and it was so common that there was no way QA would have missed that.

The runout bug was present in the AC09 too when they released it.

 

[Bevab]

Gaming isn't an ENTITLEMENT it's a hobby and you don't get to have ALL the games. Be selective and make informed decisions...

Like I said earlier, this is the huge problem with a lot of Pirating Indians. They just pirate more than ten games and don't consistently play one game. The ease with which they get these games is the simple reason for this issue.

 

[Highlander999]

So basically like the BCCI ruining international cricket, the Indian gamers are now ruining our cricket games! Bring back the colonies I say. Frankly, I'm also getting concerned about those Australian crim's as well, they need the lash brought back to teach them some good British sense!

On a serious note, I have total sympathy for Chief and all the people involved in the development of these games. Nothing can be more dis-heartening then knowing that after all the hard work you put in, a large proportion of people feel they have the right to steal your product. This is why I hate the internet as a whole. The whole anonymity of it lets people act in ways which they would never do face to face. If people who pirated these games knew that there was a significant chance they could get caught and severely punished, it would dry up very quickly.

 

[sahilnatu]

So basically like the BCCI ruining international cricket, the Indian gamers are now ruining our cricket games! Bring back the colonies I say. Frankly, I'm also getting concerned about those Australian crim's as well, they need the lash brought back to teach them some good British sense!

Stop generalizing, will you? Torrent sites are open all over the world, and piracy is prevalent everywhere. Moreover, not all Indian gamers buy pirated content.

Forum moderators, I request you to check upon such comments. We are here to make a healthy discussion, and not generalize about any particular community or country, isn't it?

 

[Dutch]

Stop generalizing, will you? Torrent sites are open all over the world, and piracy is prevalent everywhere. Moreover, not all Indian gamers buy pirated content.

Forum moderators, I request you to check upon such comments. We are here to make a healthy discussion, and not generalize about any particular community or country, isn't it?

I think you need to take the comment with four bags of heavy duty industrial grade salt. That is why he also wrote, on a serious note.......

 

[Highlander999]

I am going to generalise here. WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM SO UP TIGHT!!!??? AND WHY IS IT NEARLY ALWAYS THE INDIANS!!!!!???

I had a tongue in cheek dig at the Aussie's as well, you total and utter tube. Of course I know piracy is prevalent throughout the world, that's why I said, "This is why I hate the internet as a whole." Never have I come across such a sensitive bunch of people, who are always looking to be upset.

 

[cricket_online]

I think there's very few people that would buy a cricket game JUST for online gameplay. You'd be the exception to the norm based on what I've read on these forums for 5 years...

May very well be the case. I usually play offline to get the hang of the game and till the time I can have competitive games with AI, which usually lasts less than a couple of weeks. After that it's all online. But I do hope this iteration of cricket games has difficulty levels similar to Madden (i.e. "All Madden" or even higher) which will keep AI competitive till the next set of games come around

 

[cricket_online]

So basically like the BCCI ruining international cricket, the Indian gamers are now ruining our cricket games! Bring back the colonies I say. Frankly, I'm also getting concerned about those Australian crim's as well, they need the lash brought back to teach them some good British sense!

On a serious note, I have total sympathy for Chief and all the people involved in the development of these games. Nothing can be more dis-heartening then knowing that after all the hard work you put in, a large proportion of people feel they have the right to steal your product. This is why I hate the internet as a whole. The whole anonymity of it lets people act in ways which they would never do face to face. If people who pirated these games knew that there was a significant chance they could get caught and severely punished, it would dry up very quickly.

I have a different take on it. To me the whole piracy thing would be a thing of the past if internet is widespread and has a similar penetration as mobile/cell phones. E.g., if say 90% of the target consumer base has access to net connectivity, we wouldn't need physical media at all. In such a scenario everyone logs in to PS3/4 or Xbox 360/720 store (and in case of PC, something like Steam) and purchases the game. Whenever a user logs in to play the game, a check happens to ensure the copy is "valid" and legal else the user is not allowed to play the game. Unfortunately we are not there yet and can't go with digital media and force online connectivity as a pre-requisite. In 6-8 years time I am assuming this would be a moot point.