andrew_nixon said:It isn't the only country to not respect these basic rights, even the UK misses out on the first one completely. But to hold it up as some model country is a joke.
- Freedom of religous belief
But that's precisely the problem.Farrukh_|$B said:Andrew this is because Saudia Arabia is still trying to live in the old styles.. in the islamic style.. Thats why they also have most things under control..
What's your point?usy said:Well I will clear here which of these laws are Islamic, It's not just the realigious laws that are in,
Freedom of religous belief (Not Islamic)
Freedom of speech (Not Islamic)
Freedom from cruel punishment (depends)
Freedom of sexuality (Islamic)
Equality of women (not Islamic)
Yeah Saudi Arabia is a great country! They execute people just because they happen to have been born sexually attracted to the same sex! They cut off the hands of people who steal! They execute people in public by beheading them or stoning them! Women can't drive on public roads! They have no freedom of speech! The deport foreginers with HIV or AIDS rather than give them the treatment they need! They can't criticise the government! There is no freedom of religion, even for other forms of Islam!usy said:Some of Saudi Arabian Laws are not Islamic, but they are said to be. I was making clear that Islam do not go with some of them, but some are Islamic laws for Example a Muslim is not allowed to be gay.
And as you said 'If you like it so much, go there' I have already been there, Great country! Hard to understand!
usy said:Freedom of religous belief (Not Islamic)
Sureshot, I also have many stories of people converting into Muslims and then suffering.
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I was actually talking about Saudia Arabia's poor human rights record, not the Qu'ran.usy said:oh and you talking about Qu'ran, let me tell you one more thing, In the first surah (chapter) of Quran, if you think I am a lie you can look you're self. it says
What are the uniform and ordered movements, by the assumption of which the apparent movements of the planets can be accounted for? - Plato 4th Century B.C.E.usy said:and remember Qu'ran is a very old book, before even science found there are other planets. This is just a small bit. You think whatever you wanna think.
If I knew what that was, i would have also answerd this, anyway as I said it's just a small bit, and you can think what ever you want to as long as you have respect.andrew_nixon said:What are the uniform and ordered movements, by the assumption of which the apparent movements of the planets can be accounted for? - Plato 4th Century B.C.E.
Just correcting your statement that the Qu'ran was around before science knew about other planets. The Qu'ran cam almost 1000 years after that Plato quote if my history memory serves me correctly. And of course I respect everyone's right to have a religous belief. (unlike a certain countries government, although let's leave that shall we?) I may have no respect for the actual beliefs, as is my right, but people can believe the world was created 50 years ago by a giant flying spaghetti monster for all I care, and I respect their right to believe that.usy said:If I knew what that was, i would have also answerd this, anyway as I said it's just a small bit, and you can think what ever you want to as long as you have respect.
:rtfl:rtfl :laugh :laughandrew_nixon said:Just correcting your statement that the Qu'ran was around before science knew about other planets. The Qu'ran cam almost 1000 years after that Plato quote if my history memory serves me correctly. And of course I respect everyone's right to have a religous belief. (unlike a certain countries government, although let's leave that shall we?) I may have no respect for the actual beliefs, as is my right, but people can believe the world was created 50 years ago by a giant flying spaghetti monster for all I care, and I respect their right to believe that.