genghis_khan
International Cricketer
jdbais said:
yeah same here
the Australian government follows the US anywhere and everywhere because we're so sh!t scared of Indonesia.
Middle East crisis
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yeah same here
the Australian government follows the US anywhere and everywhere because we're so sh!t scared of Indonesia.
sachin
International Coach
They're not just scared of Indonesia,we are scared of everybody who looks remotely Muslim.Pathetic...
genghis_khan said:
Well Australia has never been proactive in geopolitical affairs. They have a vast landmass, lots of natural resources and a small population. Sticking with the US has enabled most Australians to have a very good standard of living, not to mention the security it has bought for the country without any significant defence spending. I wouldn't blame the Australian government for not trying to disturb the apple cart.
nightprowler10 said:
Yeah I meant Zionist, never wanted to "tarnish" the entire Jewish community.
.::Stevo::.
International Coach
You got that rightembi said:Stevo is always going to make stupid comments on everything. And usually they are funny, or attempts at being funny (no offence Stevo, you get it right sometimes mate)
Thats just the way he lives :cool:
Anyway. Havn't been in this thread for awhile and would just like to point out one little thing.
If there was no such thing as 'religion', there would be world peace, or peace far far greater than it is today. It's so simple yet i fail to see why people cant understand it. It also works on a smaller scale, such as work and school. Talking or slagging religion is pretty much puting a 'shoot me' sign on ur head. So much for freedom of speech....
Anyway, im totally loving the slagging which is going on here about my comments, warms my heart, it really does. Keep it coming, try be creative.
And i cant remember the nutbrain which said i should stop and think about the people in Lebanon who are starving etc. Wo wo wo wo wo, where did i say anything about the civilians. I'm talking about the 'almighty' leaders who got thier job out of a cereal box who fight over garbage. Just frustrates me....
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Well I have many answers but take Saudi Arabia for example, it is a total Muslim country and it lives peacefully with other countries, I remember someone telling me, a religion has nothing to do with the evilness of a person, Many religions including Islam do not tell us to do violence, steel, lie, swear, but they do, it's not the fault of the religion..::Stevo::. said:
A very religious man can be bad, A non religious guy can be bad as him, it's they way it goes. And as far as 'peace' is concern, you will never get peace without cooperation, which we don't see here in Middle east.
andrew_nixon
Chairman of Selectors
But has a pretty awful human rights record: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabiausy said:
Well it goes with Islamic laws, which I don't have nothing agaist, why break the law in first place andrew?
I will also add, Saudi Arabia is the country with the least cases of rapes in the world. with comparing to a country with Human Rights (USA). If you wanna breake the Islamic Laws why be a muslim? and why Live there?
I will also add, Saudi Arabia is the country with the least cases of rapes in the world. with comparing to a country with Human Rights (USA). If you wanna breake the Islamic Laws why be a muslim? and why Live there?
Taken from Andrews link.
Usy, some people don't have a choice of their place of birth.
And they're normally public executions too, when was the last public execution in the UK?
1875 according to wikipedia on the mainland.
I'm against all forms of 'state legalised murder', even for murderers themselves.
Anyway back to the topic at hand as we don't wont to go too off topic or this discussion might be closed.
Israeli tanks are starting to move into Southern Lebanon, the part of Lebanon where Hezbellah have their biggest influence.
andrew_nixon
Chairman of Selectors
You miss the point completely.usy said:
.andrew_nixon
Chairman of Selectors
You don't have a point.usy said:
The simple fact of the matter is that Saudi Arabia does not respect basic human rights such as:
- Freedom of religous belief
- Freedom of speech
- Freedom from cruel punishment
- Freedom of sexuality
- Equality of women
It isn't the only country to not respect these basic rights, even the UK misses out on the first one completely. But to hold it up as some model country is a joke.
If you like it so much, go there. See what happens if you exercise the freedom of speech you are allowed to exercise in the UK, or on this board. We wouldn't be seeing you on here for a long time.
usy said:
I'm saying that those laws are just plain wrong and outdated, they go beyond any realms of Human Rights, and everyone has them in whatever country, I doubt Saudi Arabia is signed up to the Geneva convention.
Ok, everywhere is going to have different opinions on things, but there are basic limits that should be met.
There was a man in Asia (I think Pakistan) who converted from islam to Christianity, and he was charged not sure what with and put to execution, and was spared when a cleric from the UK intervened.
I remember a while back a man had murdered a girls mum/dad, the courts then charged him and this victims daughter was allowed/forced to publicly execute him.
I'm not asking for you to agree with me, just saying that there is a limit and I believe that Saudi Arabia and many countries under the Sharia law break that limit.
