Mitchell Johnson or James Anderson?

Who is a better bowler now?


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MJ by a fair way.

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Anderson easily.

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hard choice for me. i would say johnson with his pace and cutters but Anderson as he swings the ball both ways and late.
 
Johnson can bowl over 150. In a tricky situation he can change the match in one good spell due to his extra pace. He has been trying to develop in an in dipper to right handers and showed he can do it South Africa. Anderson is a better swinger but MJ gets my vote due to extra pace and awkward left arm angle.
 
Johnson is out spearhead, but he is really not that great a bowler. He gets wickets with wide balls, that batsmen simply shouldn't be playing at. He rarely swings the ball, but he jut charges in all day, maintaining a 145k+ pace for hours on end.

Anderson on the other hand, rely's on swing. He isn't the quickest of guys going around, but when he is swinging it, particularly both ways, as he did in the 7 over spell in the first Ashes Test, he is one of the most lethal bowlers.

I voted Johnson, when this thread was created, but I'm not sure now.
 
The Johnson from SA would trump Anderson easy. But the Johnson from the 1st Ashes Test only just gets it over Anderson due to his ability to pick up wickets from nothing.
 
This is a really tough one. Johnson did really well in SA, he was lucky to get wickets at Cardiff. Anderson is threatening if the ball is moving, and his lengths are right which is usually a rare occasion. Johnson also bats quite well so I suppose he is the winner.
 
Johnson's batting should have nothing to do with how he is a better bowler. After all the poll question was

haha thats what I get for posting late at night after a long day of studying. Very well, ignore my post then!
 
Its going to one day be; the better all-rounder, Johnson or Flintoff?

Please don't let me down, Johnson.
 
Its going to one day be; the better all-rounder, Johnson or Flintoff?

Please don't let me down, Johnson.

I reckon it will be Johnson when you go through their overall career records, because Flintoff was never an exceptional player, just a few series where he really performed. I expect Johnson's form to dip at least once between now and the end of his career but might put them about on par.

Flintoff averages 31 with the bat and 32 with the ball, which is good figures for an allrounder, but he wouldn't be in the side as a batsmen without his bowling, and he might struggle (once the selelctors get over the "we must pick Flintoff whenever he is available because he is a legend and our best player" thing) to gain selection if he is bowling only.

Current statistics

Flintoff - 76 test matches
Bat: 3708 runs @ 31.69 - 5 100's and 25 50's
Ball: 219 wickets @ 32.51 - 2 5 wicket hauls

Johnson - 22 test matches
Bat: 694 runs @ 34.70 - 1 100 and 3 50's
Ball: 99 wickets @ 27.91 - 2 5 wicket hauls

So, Johnson is ahead in bowling and batting, at the moment. I think he will overtake Flintoff with the ball, and with the the bat, because IMO he will eventually move into number 7 if needed.

Lets look at their stats both 22 matches into their career

Flintoff - 22 test matches
Bat: 683 runs @ 20.08 - 1 100 and 2 50's
Ball: 33 wickets @ 50.57 - 0 5 wicket hauls

Johnson - 22 test matches
Bat: 694 runs @ 34.70 - 1 100 and 3 50's
Ball: 99 wickets @ 27.91 - 2 5 wicket hauls

So far Johnson is way ahead on Flintoff at this respective time in their careers, so if Johnson remains his form (even declines a bit, he could probably afford a rough patch and still be ahead) and plays a fair amount of games to compare, I reckon Johnson will still be ahead.
 
Good post, what was suprising to me is how Flintoff only had two 5-wicket hauls in his whole career!

And the fact he had only a smidge over 200 wickets for 76 Tests!

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How can Johnson ever compete with this?
With this:

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Wins.
 
I reckon it will be Johnson when you go through their overall career records, because Flintoff was never an exceptional player, just a few series where he really performed. I expect Johnson's form to dip at least once between now and the end of his career but might put them about on par.

Flintoff averages 31 with the bat and 32 with the ball, which is good figures for an allrounder, but he wouldn't be in the side as a batsmen without his bowling, and he might struggle (once the selelctors get over the "we must pick Flintoff whenever he is available because he is a legend and our best player" thing) to gain selection if he is bowling only.

Current statistics

Flintoff - 76 test matches
Bat: 3708 runs @ 31.69 - 5 100's and 25 50's
Ball: 219 wickets @ 32.51 - 2 5 wicket hauls

Johnson - 22 test matches
Bat: 694 runs @ 34.70 - 1 100 and 3 50's
Ball: 99 wickets @ 27.91 - 2 5 wicket hauls

So, Johnson is ahead in bowling and batting, at the moment. I think he will overtake Flintoff with the ball, and with the the bat, because IMO he will eventually move into number 7 if needed.

Lets look at their stats both 22 matches into their career

Flintoff - 22 test matches
Bat: 683 runs @ 20.08 - 1 100 and 2 50's
Ball: 33 wickets @ 50.57 - 0 5 wicket hauls

Johnson - 22 test matches
Bat: 694 runs @ 34.70 - 1 100 and 3 50's
Ball: 99 wickets @ 27.91 - 2 5 wicket hauls

So far Johnson is way ahead on Flintoff at this respective time in their careers, so if Johnson remains his form (even declines a bit, he could probably afford a rough patch and still be ahead) and plays a fair amount of games to compare, I reckon Johnson will still be ahead.

Johnson was 26? when he made his test debut right, Flintoff was only 20 I think. So that's a pretty unfair comparison.
 

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