More proof of why Ricky Ponting is easily the greatest batsman of the modern era.

As a batsman Ponting doesn't compare to Lara and Tendulkar, those two are a class above him. It is unfortunate that their peaks never came at the same time as Ponting, because then the debate would have been settled for sure.

Perm? Is that you?
 
Yes.

Not overly surprised to see that the standard of PlanetCricket remains fairly low in comparison to another major cricket forum...
 
You would have not said the same six months before.It just some people started to use Stats guru to prove their abstruse points.
 
You would have not said the same six months before.It just some people started to use Stats guru to prove their abstruse points.

Completely agree with this point. You know the forum is in trouble when you can get away with saying that Viv Richards was an inferior batsman because his average was only a tad above 50...
 
zMario said:
Besides, Viv Richards averages only 52.43 in games WI has won - 63 matches won. Only 19 lost, 39 drawn.

zMario said:
You're stubborn. Before you even came in this thread, you have had your mind set on Tendulkar being better, and are not willing to change it. Respond to those stats - can you do it? No, and do you know why? They are absolutely spot on, and you know it.

Inzamam-ul-Haq averages more in wins for his country than Richards, Ponting, and Lara, as well as Tendulkar (as I've already shown).

though you had completely different point at that time,your post certainly matches the lines that Usman has mentioned.
 
Playing at home is always easier than away right. So lets look at the two:
Ponting
Home: 68 matches, 62.67
Away: 48 matches, 51.54

Tendulkar
Home: 63 matches, 54.85
Away: 87 matches, 53.70
Tendulkar in this regard can be considered the more consistent player. Take Ponting overseas and he isn't as dominating at home. Hayden has this weird stat too. Also Ponting has played way more matches at home too. But then again you lot are wasting your time. Neither could survive in the West Indies team that Lara carried for years. He is to me the greatest batsman in this century: Ponting had an incredible team while Tendulkar was part of the fab four. Lara had absolutely no one: oh wait Chanderpaul and Sarwan. When Lara played Chanderpaul was no where near the player he is today.
 
Ahhh I'm getting a headache from the stats!

People, stats aren't everything. Surely?
 
Stats give basis to every argument, else one could say Monty Panesar could have been the greatest batsman ever to play the game.

And who could argue with that, with his excellent looking technique :p
 
The basic career stats give the basis to an argument, but taking it to stupid levels, such as making out a certain player is better than another because of average in wins is taking it WAY too far. Stats can be the main portion of an argument, but you also have to take into consideration the team the player's playing for, the conditions he plays under most of the time, the opposition encountered, their method of play. The final point, method of play, is the one that has to be used for Viv Richards. His average of 51 still stands up against the rest of the world, but the fact he achieved that average by playing in an attacking frame of mind, hitting at a good strike rate, and playing in an incredibly dominating way makes him a better player than Rahul Dravid for example.
 

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