Official, confirmed, verified "You are the umpire" thread

[qpeedore]

Have to hand it to you on that one, couldn't find anything in the Laws against it.

It's like the one where if it's the final day of a Test going to a draw, both captains can agree on it at any point after tea. I myself have only ever seen it once.

 

[CerealKiller]

At what point can a fielder move significantly during the time a ball is bowled? (Not counting walking in a few paces, which is very much allowed.)

As long as he doesn't distract the batsman

 

[Fake Passport]

As long as he doesn't distract the batsman

Playing devil's advocate: So fine leg could sprint across to third man once the batsmen is concentrating on the bowler?

 

[CerealKiller]

Playing devil's advocate: So fine leg could sprint across to third man once the batsmen is concentrating on the bowler?

Yes, as long as the batsman doesn't notice

 

[Fake Passport]

Yes, as long as the batsman doesn't notice

Not to rain on the question posed by @qpeedore but it's been a day or too and hate leaving people with potentially the wrong idea...

The law actually says, once the ball is in play and before it reaches the striker, any movement by any fielder (other than wicket keeper, which has a law of its own) is unfair except for very limited circumstances.

This circumstances allow a few paces walking in towards striker or reactions to batsmen actions. That's pretty much it....

 

[qpeedore]

Correct, moving from fine leg to third man is considered significant. The only not significant movements are the fielders walking in a bit, as stated by both myself and FakePassport, a keeper coming up for an expected slower ball, or a fielder doing something in reaction to a batsman (this last one is pushing it though, I saw Dwayne Bravo move from slip to leg slip off of a spinner to take a stunner of a catch but it was a bit...iffy to me.)

- Can a keeper wear padded cutouts of his gloves inside of them? They are not attached to them in any way (so not inner gloves) and your batsmen in the middle think they are cushioning his catches such that they are easier to collect.

- Back in the days of runners, we know that a runner has to be geared up exactly the same way as the batsman. Does that also apply to the bat specifications, such as size, length, weight, etc?

 

[Till Valhalla]

Dwayne Bravo move from slip to leg slip off of a spinner

I remember Steven Smith doing it against Sril Lanka, which caused an uproar.

 

[Fake Passport]

I remember Steven Smith doing it against Sril Lanka, which caused an uproar.

Steve Smith was substantially the catalyst for the change I believe. The ICC changed the regs to allow movement in reaction to a batsmen. Then Smith took a catch against Pakistan which bought it into the limelight. (Im not sure of a Sri Lanka incident, though Smith has done it more than once..) Everyone was up in arms because they were referencing the law, but Smith and the umpires had it right because the Playing Conditions altered the regs. The MCC then allowed for it in the 2015 update to the laws.

Its something that's a challenge in cricket umpiring is all the different rules that players, coaches, umpires, spectators etc are exposed to and think form part of the law. Sometimes your much more of an educator than an umpire

 

[Till Valhalla]

Sri Lanka incident

I might have mixed them up.

 

[Fake Passport]

I might have mixed them up.

He did do it against SL...[DOUBLEPOST=1503770088][/DOUBLEPOST]

- Can a keeper wear padded cutouts of his gloves inside of them? They are not attached to them in any way (so not inner gloves) and your batsmen in the middle think they are cushioning his catches such that they are easier to collect.

Im having trouble getting what you mean here, can you elaborate?

 

[qpeedore]

Essentially what I'm asking is can a keeper have something inside of his gloves that the batting team thinks is giving him an unfair advantage in catching the ball?

 

[Fake Passport]

Essentially what I'm asking is can a keeper have something inside of his gloves that the batting team thinks is giving him an unfair advantage in catching the ball?

Got to admit you've stumped me on that one (bad pun entirely intended). I can't think of anything that prohibits it. The law deals substantially with the webbing. As does whichever appendix (B?) It appears in.

But not sure there is something specific against it?

 

[qpeedore]

There is no way for you as the umpire on the field to prove that whatever extra material the keeper has inside the gloves is helping him in any way. Plus the Laws only refer to external equipment so technically it's legal. (But it is along the lines of "there ain't no rule against it.")

As to the question about runners, the Law just says he has to carry a bat. Nothing said about dimensions but if I was a runner I'd carry the longest bat possible.

 

[qpeedore]

I remember Steven Smith doing it against Sril Lanka, which caused an uproar.

There's always an uproar with WI cricket so I've stopped bothering, whether or not there was one with the Bravo catch.

 

[qpeedore]

Been reading the Wisden Dictionary of Cricket recently...interesting to know where some of the cricketing terms originated from. Would anyone be interested in guessing?