Puddle Mafia 01 - Game over. Town wins.

[Bevab]

You want to lynch me?

Weird. Especially when I have listed out my points.

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From the Epic Mafia character wiki:

Miller
When investigated by a sane cop, appears to be sided with the mafia.
When investigated by an insane cop, appears to be sided with the village.
When lynched, appears to be mafia.
When killed, appears to be miller.

Not saying that there are two cops, but from the write-up, I think our cop is insane. So investigating Bevab tonight will tell the cop his sanity. Whether he's miller or mafia, a sane cop would get a town result, while an insane cop would get mafia. With the cop sure of his sanity, we could then lynch Bevab on Day 2 (or Day 1 since today is 0).

Just pointing out, a sane would get a mafia, and an insane would get a town.

 

[Sedition]

Err yeah, I mixed it up the second time. Had it right the first time I'm pretty sure

If Miller:
Sane cop gets mafia result
Insane gets town

If Mafia:
Sane cop gets mafia
Insane gets town

 

[BKB1991]

Good stuff Sedition. Plan is to lynch Bevab tomorrow then. What about today?

Think we need a lynch today, it helps us clear a few things out (such as alignment for future references.

Personally I am getting some vibes of Varun for no apparent reason. Your thoughts guys?

 

[puddleduck]

MOD REMINDER:

There are 2 hours and 15 minutes until end of Day 0. 7pm BST is end of Day 0 time.

 

[Sedition]

I would prefer a no-lynch today. A mislynch today and Bevab actually being miller and getting lynched tomorrow would put us in pretty bad shape. We'd have to hope for a doc save in there somewhere.

If Bevab is mafia, then it's a missed opportunity today, but with doubts over our cop, there's benefits to investigating and being sure of future results.

Varun I'm not too suspicious of. He's experienced so could be playing a solid game as mafia, but I've found his posts helpful and pro-town so far.

 

[Bevab]

I'm personally suspicious of Zhourob. Why not pressurize him?

 

[Sedition]

You can't edit or delete posts Bevab.

 

[Aditya]

After Sedition's point, it indeed makes sense to not lynch Bevab today.

No Lynch

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And that is correct. We're not supposed to delete/edit posts in a mafia game.

 

[Bevab]

Oops.... sorry.

 

[Aditya]

If Bevab is mafia, then it's a missed opportunity today, but with doubts over our cop, there's benefits to investigating and being sure of future results.

Do you perhaps feel there could well be a naive/insane doctor in this game than cop? Just pointing out because the corrupt thing can be related to a corrupt doctor too. I'd also not stress this all corrupt thing a lot because in all the games that I've modded, everything that I post in the beginning of the game write up doesn't always necessarily has to do something with the game, sometimes it just for the purpose of building a story line.

 

[Sedition]

Not really sure about the doc, I didn't pick up anything specific from the write-up, but you could be right that "corrupt town" refers to that. It's mainly the part about the law not being trustworthy that has me questioning the cop. As I said earlier, the corrupt town part could be a reference to the third party role Politician.

Politician
Vote counts twice during the day.
Every 2 days, randomly becomes village or mafia.
Each change is independent, so politicians have an equal chance of remaining sided with their current alignment and of changing sides

If that role does exist in this game, we can already rule out 5 people that have placed a lynch on Bevab though, since it's a double voter role.

PD did say that there'd be "big clues" in the write-ups as to what roles there are, so I think it is worth analysing, and checking over the Epicmafia character page.

Characters - Epicmafia

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On second thoughts, the Politician role probably isn't in this game. We can rule out the 5 people who have lynched Bevab, Bevab himself, and I know it's not me, so that only leaves 2 potentials, and they probably would've hammered the lynch and had the double-voter power disguised.. so yeah, seriously doubt there's a Poli.

 

[puddleduck]

Vote Count

Bevab (4) - Zhuorb, Barmyarmy, Mark, Manly
Zhuorb (1) - Bevab
No Lynch (1) - Aditya

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. There is 1 hour left in the day.

 

[pcfan123]

So we're letting Bevab slide?

Pretty sure miller is a bs claim

9 people.

1) doc
2) cop
3) DV
4) vanilla
5) vanilla

6) mafia
7) mafia
8) mafia
9) mafia

even if there are 1 too many mafia, I'm pretty sure that role would be replaced by a non-miller townie role.

It's a small game so getting a mafia would be huge, more than losing a miller potentially.

 

[puddleduck]

30 minutes until end of day period

 

[Sedition]

I only want to let Bevab off for a day, then lynch him tomorrow once the cop confirms sanity. There could be other opportunities to do so I guess, but this seems like a pretty sure way.

I think Varun gave a good idea of the setup - 6 town and either 3 mafia, or 2 mafia and a third party.

4 mafia would mean game over tonight if we no lynched and they nailed a townie, so that can't be possible imo. Also the chances of a DV are starting to look slim.