World Cup Quarter Finals Discussion

[PokerAce]

That AUS vs IND semi is going to be ugly, im expecting much verbals and a unsavory moment or two

^ This !! I expect it to be a real ugly fest if its a close one.

 

[Aoun13]

There should be some sort of fine on umpires too. That no-ball thing was pretty bizarre, its ok as on-field umpires can make mistake but then not to recheck it is abysmal. Also what are the use of those giant screens and 3rd umpire, match referee? A decision should be nullified if replay show that its clearly wrong at least before delivering the next ball.

 

[abhi_jacko]

They were showing the SAF v AUS '99 World cup semi final on TV. Broke my heart again, that last over. Klusner smashes 2 boundaries, and then disaster strikes If not India, then please let it be South Africa as World Cup winners

Couple of things I noticed: SAF were being cheered on by lots of Indians/Pakistanis in the stadium

And that steve elworthy runout at the critical moment was pretty damn controversial. I bet if that happened to India in the current state of cricket, it would raise a massive shytstorm

 

[Satan666]

Thats the thing, all these other moan abt wrong decisions so much, and hang the outcome of the whole match one decision. With India not using DRS, Indians have learnt to get on with the game, and not moan abt it so much. Even in the test series Indians got a few bad decisions like Dhawan being given caught with the ball hitting his shoulder and not the bat and so on. Yet not in one press conference did the captain blame the umpiring for how things went on in the field.

The rest of the teams are like If DRS then this and if DRS then that ... its quite over the top if u ask me.

Yeah I get it, there is DRS, does a great job most of the times, but when it fks things up, then it is a side show of its own, unlike any other.

No one is willing to acknowledge that DRS has too many areas no one is quite clear about, and needs to be looking into. I am sure there are going to be tonnes of replies to this, bt ah well I have gotten used to them by now.

The thing is DRS doesn't deserve the attention it gets. If there is DRS then fine, if there is no DRS then its fking fine as well. Who cares man. The kind of hate BCCI gets for not using DRS, one would think BCCI has said something like Indian batsmen can no longer be out caught. That is the level of handicap some of these pro DRS ppl think they have when playing India without DRS.

What is funny is that despite all the hate on BCCI no one says a word about greats such as Joel Garner who have also gone on record to dismiss the system as a mere gimmick. Even Dickie Bird, probably the greatest umpire ever has been a known critic of the DRS. Yet no one addresses these issues raised by the players, all everyone really wants to do is BCCI bashing.

As for whether BD could have reviewed the decision, I suppose they could have. As the woeds used on wikipedia - 'A fielding team may use the system to dispute a "not out" call and a batting team may use it to dispute an "out" call'. 'A challenge is always used in situations that did or may result in a dismissal'

Since the call was 'not out', and it would result in a dismissal, I suppose it could lead to a challenge.

DRS is not really up for discussion on this matter, the fact is the umpires made a dubious decision, it was clear that Rohit was out, and i was watching on tv!

I wonder had this been the other way around if you guys would still be trying to defend it. It clearly was a wrong decision and you can post three pages full it was still a dubious decision!

 

[MattW]

And the key is that the umpire's decision was made after the batsman hit the ball - he didn't make the shot knowing it was going to be called a no ball.

For wrongly called front foot no balls, there's a disadvantage to the batsman by correcting that, but when the call is made after the shot, there's no reason to allow a wrong decision to stand.

In any sport during a knockout final people are going to scrutinise the umpiring decisions - this isn't a DRS thing, and it is more unacceptable to ignore mistakes when we have so much ability to get it right.

 

[SaiSrini]

LOL

I am all for reporting the umpire's poor decision in the official report and umpires being reprimanded for a poorly done job. But the over reaction to this whole episode by BCB and the fans makes it seem like this is the first time a wrong decision has been made by the umpires.

And tbh, on the first impact I was not at all surprised to see it being given as a no ball. Only once the replay was shown, it became clear that Rohit had perched himself in a position where it seemed like it was above the waist.

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On a side note, would BD be allowed to review this decision through DRS ?

On first impact, it seemed a "above waist high" no-ball and so this is not a howler from the umpire IMO. This just brought to light the protocols/laws that govern such dismissals. If a catch is taken off such a ball, then they should go up to the third umpire and check to see if the height was OK. They always check for front foot no-balls whenever a batsman is dismissed. They can do a similar thing for "above waist no-ball".

I understand that its early stages in BD's cricketing life and so such reactions are expected. They just have to move on. Reportedly, they got some questionable umpiring decisions in their favor in the most crucial match of the league phase against England. Could say that Bangladesh could have been back home much earlier had those decisions not gone in their favor against England.

 

[themusketeer]

On first Impact , it seemed a No-ball. The thing is this No-ball thing is being discussed only because "India" "BCCI" involved in this.
There were a hell lot poor decisions made by umpires in this WC but if india involved there has to be a fixing, Srinivasan talking directly to umpire by alien technology to give that ball "No-ball". BCCI gets blamed for not using DRS if any wrong decisions made against us like in test series, Dhawan case. No body says that Aus bribed the Umpires. There is more wrong decisions made in favour of Aus than India . Bucknor case you remember . 2003 WC final was a prime example of fixing things.

So get over it.

Bangladesh v India, 2nd Q-F, Melbourne : Outrage in Dhaka over no-ball, BCB to lodge appeal | Cricket News | ICC Cricket World Cup 2015 | ESPN Cricinfo

So the BCB intends for the ICC to launch an investigation wrt the no ball issue involving Rohit. The BCB have every right to be angry but the ICC is headed by India, so India will be investigating themselves because clearly the umpires actions in this situation gives the idea that some form of underhanded activity took place as if the umpires were instructed before hand!

 

[IceAgeComing]

On first Impact , it seemed a No-ball. The thing is this No-ball thing is being discussed only because "India" "BCCI" involved in this.
There were a hell lot poor decisions made by umpires in this WC but if india involved there has to be a fixing, Srinivasan talking directly to umpire by alien technology to give that ball "No-ball". BCCI gets blamed for not using DRS if any wrong decisions made against us like in test series, Dhawan case. No body says that Aus bribed the Umpires. There is more wrong decisions made in favour of Aus than India . Bucknor case you remember . 2003 WC final was a prime example of fixing things.

So get over it.

lol "the only correct mistake are those that benefit india"

 

[themusketeer]

Lol.,, which ones ?

 

[grkrama]

lol "the only correct mistake are those that benefit india"

I wonder had this been the other way around if you guys would still be trying to defend it. It clearly was a wrong decision and you can post three pages full it was still a dubious decision!

Nobody is trying to defend the decision, it was a horrible one and certainly something to be watched out by whoever is reviewing umpires performances especially as they had ample time to see the replay on the giant screen and could have easily corrected it.

where people start defending is when you start to say india won it because of that one poor decision, if not rohit, dhoni or jadeja would have stepped up it would have been 20 more or 20 less, anyway wouldn't have made much difference to the outcome of the match.

As long as you are not trying to rob our team of hard earned victory saying that we bribed umpires and what not im all for having that umpire suspended/fined for such a blatant horrible decision. waist high no balls are rare in matches and should be review-able with or without drs

 

[themusketeer]

 

[grkrama]

starc is in terrific form expecting the green to give the early help to aus bowlers

 

[Aalay]

Pakistan needs to score 250+ to have any chance in this game.

 

[SaiSrini]

Is Pakistan doing a Sri Lanka here? Getting the advantage of the toss but not making any use of it? Sarfaraz and Shehzad, two of their solid batsmen are already gone for almost nothing

Hoping its Akmal's day today. And as usual, Misbah comes to the rescue.

 

[abhi_jacko]

I wonder had this been the other way around if you guys would still be trying to defend it.

Like everyone else said. No one is defending the decision. It was OBVIOUSLY the wrong decision

Its the conspiracy theories that people come up with. Entertaining for a while, then it just gets irksome [DOUBLEPOST=1426823926][/DOUBLEPOST]PCB paid the groundsman to make sure the bails dont come off ?