Sri Lanka in England 2011

Haarithan - Sangakarra doesn't play "WKB" in the longer format of the game

I don't know, you could also say that he got a massive double century only what, 6 tests back?

That reply seems to make most sense in reply to my KP nuts comment. It's great he got a double hundred but last time I checked one score could only win one match, whereas six single figures scores including two ducks could easily lose you a handful of Tests.

Point is it puts pressure on the other batsmen, especially if KP doesn't drop down the order even ONE place. He comes into the crease in poor nick, no regard for playing for the team it seems, and against a new ball which may not happen so much these days with a number four, but can happen. Hick should have been a 4/5 depending on his own form and the pitch, KP I'd say the same or rest him.

Put another way, how about we leave him out for the next Test or maybe two and let him get some form back for his county and maybe work on his technique to SLAs and maybe even generally work on his technique. I think the flat pitches tend to hide some serious problems and by the time someone realises there is a serious problem it can have been costly


I agree with what Athers (I think) said, his head is just full of too much theory about left-arm spin and his form. He just needs to go out there, watch the red thing and score some runs. I still expect him to get big runs this summer. I suppose the good thing in all of this, is I no longer fear an England side without KP.

I think he has the SLA hex on him and it is in his mind. Problem with KP is I think he's as likely to play a stupid shot to try and reverse the dominance and I'm not sure that's the way to go.

Impressive last session, helped by a lacklustre Sri Lankan attack. 342-6, push on beyond 400. 450+ and I'm really happy with the total.

After 22-3, I'm happy with the day's play and I think we just edge it due to the psychological impact of having a side 3 down for nothing, then taking another 320 runs to get 3 wickets...

Good to see Cook, Prior, Bell and Morgan all in the runs. Bell looked a bit iffy at times, but he batted at the harder end and played a big role in getting the innings back on track. Why on earth they bowl wide to Prior, I don't know.

Fair enough summation. England probably shouldn't have been 22/3 mind, silly shot by KP and the others were out to balls they should have blocked. You can make some allowance for the slope at Lords, but they were experienced batsmen and it's Strauss' home ground (in theory mainly as he plays more for England than Middlesex)

That said, England could have lost other wickets but for balls dropping short. Not utterly convinced by this "one hand on the bat" theory, think it's more to do with how hard the batsman plays at it and the hand coming off the bat is merely a sign the grip on the bat and force of the stroke are not hard.

Still, (some) England batsmen showed resolve and I think the partnerships since we were 22/3 show the pitch is a pretty good one - 108, 71, 101 and an unbeaten 40 partnership. While I appreciate the new ball might account for early wickets before the pitch becomes the bigger factor, were any of the batsmen undone by prodigious swing or seam movement? Nope, the balls they all got out to were pretty straight and not really that good. You certainly wouldn't expect to get out to the ball KP, if anything you could say the better balls the lankans bowled didn't get much reward.
 
Not sure what we're getting out of Tremlett and Finn playing like this, maybe pushing for 500?

I'd just rather get in to them after scoring at somehting like 6 runs an over this morning. Really good work from Prior/Broad this morning. 450 was what I wanted, so very happy with it.
 
Not sure the 500 is at all neccessary. Prior and Broad did well to deflate the Sri Lankans but this partnership seems rather pointless, unless they start swinging.

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Yeah, like that. Few good shots
 
The nature of the wicket doesn't please me at all . Unless Lanka lose 2 early wickets , it will be tough to restrict them to less than 400 given the class of Sanga and Jayawardene . The pitch looks absolutely dead atm . Nevertheless , top quality batting from Prior & Broad - the latter looks damn sound technically for a lower order allrounder .
 
That reply seems to make most sense in reply to my KP nuts comment. It's great he got a double hundred but last time I checked one score could only win one match, whereas six single figures scores including two ducks could easily lose you a handful of Tests.

Point is it puts pressure on the other batsmen, especially if KP doesn't drop down the order even ONE place. He comes into the crease in poor nick, no regard for playing for the team it seems, and against a new ball which may not happen so much these days with a number four, but can happen. Hick should have been a 4/5 depending on his own form and the pitch, KP I'd say the same or rest him.

Put another way, how about we leave him out for the next Test or maybe two and let him get some form back for his county and maybe work on his technique to SLAs and maybe even generally work on his technique. I think the flat pitches tend to hide some serious problems and by the time someone realises there is a serious problem it can have been costly




I think he has the SLA hex on him and it is in his mind. Problem with KP is I think he's as likely to play a stupid shot to try and reverse the dominance and I'm not sure that's the way to go.

It's such a tough situation, it seems silly, when you look at his stats, this is a guy who average over 50 for most of his career, someone who genuinely puts fear in to the bowlers and can turn a Test in a day.

But clearly something isn't working with him, I still don't believe his SLA problems are technical, for me, KP is all about his head. Is the batting strong enough to support KP through this time? I think it probably is, we have to give him more time, he's just too talented and you know that he's going to do something this summer. I don't really feel he's the type of cricketer who would benefit that much from runs at county level, he lost some love for the game, that much is obvious, has he got it back?


Fair enough summation. England probably shouldn't have been 22/3 mind, silly shot by KP and the others were out to balls they should have blocked. You can make some allowance for the slope at Lords, but they were experienced batsmen and it's Strauss' home ground (in theory mainly as he plays more for England than Middlesex)

That said, England could have lost other wickets but for balls dropping short. Not utterly convinced by this "one hand on the bat" theory, think it's more to do with how hard the batsman plays at it and the hand coming off the bat is merely a sign the grip on the bat and force of the stroke are not hard.

Still, (some) England batsmen showed resolve and I think the partnerships since we were 22/3 show the pitch is a pretty good one - 108, 71, 101 and an unbeaten 40 partnership. While I appreciate the new ball might account for early wickets before the pitch becomes the bigger factor, were any of the batsmen undone by prodigious swing or seam movement? Nope, the balls they all got out to were pretty straight and not really that good. You certainly wouldn't expect to get out to the ball KP, if anything you could say the better balls the lankans bowled didn't get much reward.

I think one of the Sky commentators mentioned that the middle/lower middle order needed a test this summer, Cook and Trott failing, which they didn't do in the winter and I think we've done ourselves great. I'm so confident with our batting atm, even with KP in inconsistent form.

Haarithan - The pitch is far from dead, there's some bounce, which will suit our bowlers and there's just a bit of turn happening.

It'll be a good test wicket, good to bat on for days 1-3 with a bit in it for the bowlers if they put it in the right areas. Sri Lanka are strong with the bat though.
 
Can't believe Cook has put that down at slip , you really have to take your chances in these sort of batsmen friendly conditions .
 
Great comeback by England. Seriously after being 21 for 3 it was going to be hard but they have done good. Hope I have jinxed them :p
 
Just what I feared , Lanka well on course to put 400 on the board . 20 wickets seems an uphill task for both sides in this pitch .
 
Only in cricket would you get a 'Scone Taste Test'!! Gotta love Bumble. :D

Indeed. :D

Not seen England bowl that badly in a while. I still think there's something there for the bowlers, but no one is bowling well. Finn is looking so raw, surely Onions was a better option? Even with his lack of cricket.

Morning session tomorrow is massive for England, need 4 wickets I reckon.
 
Yea Onions/Shahzad (swing) would have been a better option . Three hit-the-deck bowlers in a flat Lord's wicket was not the ideal way to go and it proved so . I really haven't seen Dernbach bowl , but is he of the Anderson mode or Broad's? I mean swing or hit the deck bowler?
 
It seems to me that Dilshan pressured them a bit. For example, they didn't really peg Paranavitana in the head because they didn't need to; but they decided they needed to have a go at Dilshan and it didn't really come off.

That said, better execution might have yielded some better bouncers. They may have gone out there just trying to hit the deck hard. That's definitely something you could imagine an Australian bowling coach saying to his tall charges, but not totally losing the line and length aspect at the same time is a skill as much as anything.

That was part of what happened at Perth; they looked a touch obsessed with bowling shorter on a bouncy wicket and gave a few free runs to certain players, while the most memorable bowling in that game was ultimately only stump high.
 
I still don't believe his SLA problems are technical, for me, KP is all about his head. Is the batting strong enough to support KP through this time? I think it probably is, we have to give him more time, he's just too talented and you know that he's going to do something this summer. I don't really feel he's the type of cricketer who would benefit that much from runs at county level, he lost some love for the game, that much is obvious, has he got it back?

Perhaps approach is more the word than technique, how you try and play the spinner rather than actual batting technique itself.

I don't see why KP should be carried, Key scored 221 and wasn't so waiting for the next big KP innings is wrong for me. You talk of "all about his head", well maybe pandering to his ego and making him "undroppable" doesn't help, a bit of humility wouldn't hurt him. Let him get his head in the right place and then bring him back, the problem is we can't afford to carry anyone when the Indians get here, he could be like the cavalry!




Haarithan - The pitch is far from dead, there's some bounce, which will suit our bowlers and there's just a bit of turn happening.

It'll be a good test wicket, good to bat on for days 1-3 with a bit in it for the bowlers if they put it in the right areas. Sri Lanka are strong with the bat though.

Those feeling 450+ is a good total may be about 100 short, although I have reservations (no, not another indian reference :D ) about Broad in the attack and Finn is far too wayward for my liking. Tremlett may well be another Anderson, although a slightly better version perhaps height related (? don't know if Anderson is taller/shorter) This is another Test that should peter out into a draw, shame really and just emphasises for me why I hate three match series - too much chance of draws and get out of jail last Test wins. For some reason people think because it's an odd number of Tests it has to be more likely to produce a series result - poppycock.
 

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