Sri Lanka in England 2011

I don't understand how broads place in the team is justifiable anymore.

lets be honest, Bresnan, who most people hate because he's chunky and short, has proven a better bowler. Anderson provides the much need new ball impetus and Finn and Tremlett look far better in the tall bang-it-in mould.

Broad looks decent maybe once every 7 or 8 tests. he's the Ian Bell of bowlers, and yeah, Bell has produced recently, but he's still nowhere near Englands best batsman. Was it really worth all the failures to get to where he is now? (one year younger than the significantly better Trott)
 
Couldn't agree more . Well one thing's certain now - Tremlett's place in the xi has just been confirmed by Broad's dismal form . The Finn v Tremlett duel is over , its more of a Finn v Broad v Bresnan clash from now . I really don't want Broad in the Indian test series - his body language is awful , his discipline is even worse , the manner in which he appeals a wicket without turning back at the umpire is disrespectful , he's nothing more than a child .

Don't agree with the Bell thingy though . He's easily the classiest England batsman to watch at present , genious stroke making coupled with superb technique .

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So , England have got 52 overs for the day to build on their 7 run lead . Your prediction at Stumps Day 4?

England 174/4 , lead by 181 .
 
Athers (I think) just pointed out how Strauss struggles against left arm fast bowlers , he just doesn't know when to leave a delivery (as against Bollinger in Adelaide 2010) , on the other hand , attempts a delivery that he should be leaving (as against Amir in July 2010) . And not to mention that its his 5th single digit score in his last 13 innings that consists of 2 ducks and 9 innings with scores less than or equal to 20 . Imho , he's nothing more than a flat track bully , just happens to feast upon paradise wickets in the Carribbean Islands and India and fail elsewhere .
 
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England openers if struggle against left armers then I feel Zak will kill them in the next tour ;)

Back on this test, I have a strange feeling England might get all out today just like Sri Lanka got in last match :)
 
Finn bowled well which is a reassuring sign. Broad will still have his place in the next test since this one will be a rain affected draw me thinks, unless England can smack the Lankan bowlers all over the park and score some quick runs. Also Strauss' form in recent matches has not been so good. He had an outstanding series against Ban and a good start to the Ashes but tailed off in the latter stages.
 
Athers (I think) just pointed out how Strauss struggles against left arm fast bowlers , he just doesn't know when to leave a delivery (as against Bollinger in Adelaide 2010) , on the other hand , attempts a delivery that he should be leaving (as against Amir in July 2010) . And not to mention that its his 5th single digit score in his last 13 innings that consists of 2 ducks and 9 innings with scores less than or equal to 20 . Imho , he's nothing more than a flat track bully , just happens to feast upon paradise wickets in the Carribbean Islands and India and fail elsewhere .
He's got a pretty consistent record and can certainly handle batting in SA as well as India and the Caribbean. When he does play well, has that knack of bringing a game together for England. He's just not the most gifted opener.
 
I don't understand how broads place in the team is justifiable anymore.

lets be honest, Bresnan, who most people hate because he's chunky and short, has proven a better bowler. Anderson provides the much need new ball impetus and Finn and Tremlett look far better in the tall bang-it-in mould.

Broad looks decent maybe once every 7 or 8 tests. he's the Ian Bell of bowlers, and yeah, Bell has produced recently, but he's still nowhere near Englands best batsman. Was it really worth all the failures to get to where he is now? (one year younger than the significantly better Trott)

Not sure we absolutely need to focus on bowlers who can hold a bat, quasi all-rounders, when we have six batsmen and a batsman keeper in the side - and Swann who can hold a bat.

Broad last took 5+ wickets in a Test in six Tests ago, before that five Tests and

Test 23 : 6 wkts vs South Africa
Tests 24-28 : 13 wkts in five Tests
Test 29 : 6 wkts vs Pakistan
Tests 30-35 : 12 wkts in six Tests*

*including current Test

In that 13 Test period we have won eight Tests but five of those were over Bangladesh (2) and Pakistan (3)

As mentioned elsewhere his batting isn't needed 1/3 of the time anyway so we're effectively including someone as a bowler who's not doing a great job on the basis of his batting.



Anyway, enough on Broad for the time being, back on the Test. Was is a surprise Sri Lanka fell away from a strong position? Not really I guess if you consider the theory of adding two wickets to the score (when three down) and their tail which has a 7-11 of Maharoof, Herath, Fernando, Lakmal and Welegedara which is pretty poor and I'd say three 10/11s and if you look at it individually it isn't great.

7. Maharoof - averages 18.53 in Tests, way too low for a seven. Bats more at eight, but does average 20.75 at seven - still not good enough for a seven.

8. Herath - averages 14.04 in Tests, not clever for an eight. Has batted most of his career at nine, although an 80no at eight does boost his average batting there to 28.80

9. Fernando - averages 7.25 in Tests, bats mostly at 10 with some ability but ideally you'd want that kind of batting ability at 10 or 11.

10. Lakmal - four Tests, scored two runs and this is the highest he's batted

11. Welegedara - seven Tests, 33 runs and dumped in below Lakmal :eek: Maybe he just likes batting eleven, average of 6.60 is ok for 10 or 11


Can England force another win? Unlikely, not enough of a lead so they'd need to push on rapidly and leave a couple of sessions if they can. If they can add 150 in the morning session then they could put pressure on the lankans, but with a relatively inexperienced bowling line-up that includes Finn and Tremlett with Broad nothing to write home about, maybe that could be a little risky. But then again 300 runs in two sessions with no lower order to speak about is the kind of total that a few early wickets could make a winner.


re Strauss and the "cramping him for room" theory that supposedly Athers was raising. Maybe he watched the C5 highlights when they focused on him when cramped for room and how he prefers the ball across him (Friday highlights I believe)
 
Dilshan is captain :O and is in pretty good form lol

Also has a broken thumb and won't be playing at Rose Bowl next Thursday. The Sri Lankan bowling is looking really flat. Looking at everything, England declare just after lunch, 300 run lead with 60 overs left. They're a batsman down, so they only have 5 real batsman for 2nd innings. Be aggressive, if we need to put fielders back then do it.

KP looking much better today. A century will do him wonders.
 
Tbf on KP, that turned a hell of a lot more than anything else today. He also got 72, so I won't complain. He should have padded it, but meh.
 
This is just arrogant and selfish batting from Cook's part. :facepalm

I agree, something like 25 runs off 75 balls when England could have done with some acceleration - are England pushing for a win or just hoping Sri Lanka go to pieces again?!?!? Arguably one of those situations where a batsman is not helping his side by staying in.

That said, if the captain puts personal landmarks (for others) ahead of chasing a win then can you blame the rest of the players for doing it?

Or I could just say, "well done new England ODI captain, take another 92 balls and you'll have faced a full 50 overs all by yourself" :rolleyes:
 

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