Substitutes

[fardin]

Ricky ponting was run out by a substitue and he wasnt happy the way England was bringing in substitues just to give fast bowlers a breather,Do you think it was cheating?

When Ponting was ran out he wasnt happy about it and did you see vaughan bringing another substitute just to make ponting more angry I am loving this

 

[andrew_nixon]

Is it cheating? No.

 

[fardin]

Why isnt it cheating make it clear please.

 

[SaiSrini]

As per the law of the game, substitutes are allowed on the field anytime to replace any player on the field no matter what the situation is.. for example, fielders on the field can take a break off to the dressing room to use the toilet, etc.. Its within the laws of the game and the time used for the break is taken into consideration by the umpires when the player bats or bowls..

but vaughan was using this law to his advantage by giving his bowlers a break and was making them loosen up!!!! thats all

 

[angryangy]

A player is allowed off the field for, I think, seven minutes without an injury.

I think it's valid to ask if bad behaviour is not in the spirit of the game, is taking your bowlers off the field after each spell then in the spirit? Leaving the field without injury was certainly an atrocity in years past.

I think cricket is getting soft.

 

[squiz]

It's certainly within the rules but they're stretching them a bit. It's not cheating

 

[brad352]

Ricky ponting was run out by a substitue and he wasnt happy the way England was bringing in substitues just to give fast bowlers a breather,Do you think it was cheating?

When Ponting was ran out he wasnt happy about it and did you see vaughan bringing another substitute just to make ponting more angry I am loving this

Not cheating, just completely against the spirit of the game- they're certainly allowed to do it but I don't think anyone likes it.

 

[langerrox]

ricky ponting said that its in the rules of the game but its not the spirit of the game

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Not cheating, just completely against the spirit of the game- they're certainly allowed to do it but I don't think anyone likes it.

Kind of like sledging ay?

 

[Trescothick]

The 12th man

Sorry if this has been discussed already, but I had a look down the first few pages and didn't see it...

I was having a discussion/argument with an Aussie mate who thinks it's dirty tactics to have a specialist fielder as 12th man. He thinks teams should have batsmen or bowlers looking to break into the side as 12th man.

I think that seeing as the 12th man isn't allowed to bat or bowl, there isn't much sense in fielding a batsman or a bowler. I also don't see anything dodgy in calling up a specialist fielder to play the position of substitute fielder.

I'm sure you can guess what incident sparked this debate. Do you think it's either right or wrong to have a specialist fielder as 12th man? (Avoiding the issue of him being on the field when it isn't strictly necessary, as Simon Jones cannot have been expected to field while having an x-ray on his ankle.)

(sorry - just noticed the same thread right below this one : )

 

[dazza76]

Kind of like sledging ay?

I love a bit of sledging.

I think the best Exchange has got to be between Glenn Mcgrath and Edo Brandes.
McGrath was bowling to the Zimbabwe number 11 - who was unable to get
his bat anywhere near the ball.

McGrath, frustrated that Brandes was still at the crease, wandered up
during one particular over and inquired: "Why are you so fat?"

Quick as a flash, Brandes replied: "Because every time I make love to
your wife, she gives me a biscuit."

Even the Aussie slip fielders were in hysterics.

 

[langerrox]

I love a bit of sledging.

I think the best Exchange has got to be between Glenn Mcgrath and Edo Brandes.
McGrath was bowling to the Zimbabwe number 11 - who was unable to get
his bat anywhere near the ball.

McGrath, frustrated that Brandes was still at the crease, wandered up
during one particular over and inquired: "Why are you so fat?"

Quick as a flash, Brandes replied: "Because every time I make love to
your wife, she gives me a biscuit."

Even the Aussie slip fielders were in hysterics.

haha i love that one

 

[brad352]

Kind of like sledging ay?

Actually, I don't think many people or players mind a bit of sledging, good fun

 

[langerrox]

yeh but they picked a 12th man on fielding capablitys not bowling or batting

 

[brad352]

Sorry if this has been discussed already, but I had a look down the first few pages and didn't see it...

I was having a discussion/argument with an Aussie mate who thinks it's dirty tactics to have a specialist fielder as 12th man. He thinks teams should have batsmen or bowlers looking to break into the side as 12th man.

I think that seeing as the 12th man isn't allowed to bat or bowl, there isn't much sense in fielding a batsman or a bowler. I also don't see anything dodgy in calling up a specialist fielder to play the position of substitute fielder.

I'm sure you can guess what incident sparked this debate. Do you think it's either right or wrong to have a specialist fielder as 12th man? (Avoiding the issue of him being on the field when it isn't strictly necessary, as Simon Jones cannot have been expected to field while having an x-ray on his ankle.)

(sorry - just noticed the same thread right below this one : )

I'll throw it in with the other one

I don't think there's anything wrong with having any person on as a substitute fieldsman, if there's something more useful that the 12th best cricketer in the country can be doing (playing domestic games for example) then he should be doing it, and common sense dictates that this replacement should be the best fieldsman possible.