Superhero Mafia - Ste, CG and Yash WIN

[CG123]

I had pretty much picked up that you knew something re him which is why I posted before that I wasn't going to target either of you today. Again like I posted before Yash and Suren are the two most suspicious for me, and possibly are both mafia. I would like a claim for Suren because in successive posts he has targeted people who have made pretty solid claims (Hedger and Manly), and he was involved in the lynching of Jack, either he's had a mare or is mafia, and I'm leaning towards the later atm.

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Only because I don't see difference between Yash & Jack being innocent townie with ambiguous factors getting exhibited. Their behavior is pretty similar except for Yash turning solid in his recent posts. Probably a townie waking up from sleep is what I am seeing it.

Like I've eluded to numerous times their behavior was actually very different early on, which is why I put pressure on Yash and had a feeling Jack was just a terrible townie.

Very interesting how you're defending him, if we get one of you then we might just get two.

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This also look to be as funplay now in my eyes to give a false vision to town that they are against each other but in actuality they are not. In day 0, we didn't go for lynchs as we are trying to understand what everyone is upto as well. So it look now to me as creating fun & spread a false alarm?

Manly has posted twice that he thinks Ste is town, and has now provided evidence for that, would he play that way if they were both mafia? Yes it's a possibility, but if he's genuinely trying to win then it's unlikely that he would make it so obvious.

 

[surendar]

I would like a claim for Suren because in successive posts he has targeted people who have made pretty solid claims (Hedger and Manly), and he was involved in the lynching of Jack, either he's had a mare or is mafia, and I'm leaning towards the later atm.

Really? Are you sure on what you are saying? Those claims were made after my posts if you have failed to read. I suspected Hedger, & post after mine had Hedger's claim of Superman with his roles. I went after Manly with lynch & post after that had his claim of doctor who was protecting himself.

In other words - your posts look to me either from 'Hurry read & just randomly going on townies here' Or, 'Trying to deviate the attention of the town'. If you were so suspectful of Yash or me, you had Yash unlynched when you insisted so much to kill Yash during early part of the day? Or can I just play your tactic - you unlynched yash because you realized him to be mafia & you were his partner?

Only because my first lynch went wrong resulting more to the kill of an innocent townie, I had to push myself so backwards to make another lynch. Otherwise it would have taken a fraction of second for my first lynch. In all aspects, you(CG) were the only one to go after Yash at the fastest rate despite seeing a townkill & without having to wait to asses the town situation. The 'unlynch' part is definite to backfire you because you agreed you are suspecteful on me/Yash and still went ahead to unlynch him.

One more similar post from you, you are going to be on my top radar! Seriously! You are in my list but I need to clear other things. Am not going to miss anymore Abhas tactics! Yes!

Hmm, I don't really get what you're saying there, too early to try and make sense of that, lol.

Below posts from earlier days is what I meant, one small mistake - it(manly's sudden swing of claiming me to be a townie) was questioned by CG & not by you. Sorry for that, as I thought it was you.

FOS : jack, manly.

Yes I am suspecting manly as well. Understand that we are all interpreting the roles line by line thinking of what happened & what could it be. But I guess we are yet to see from manly( aware of writing issues, still .. Not all the lines are not understandable. My suspect is, are we getting deviated from him due to writing issues ) and jack Ryder. Yeah, all you write here counts! Hedger?

Right this second I'd be inclined to sway toward surendar being a town because he's actively seeking people out. Jack Ryder has said he's not analytic, which is fine, but I'd like to see him take up a similar role to what surendar's doing if that's the case. Until such a point, FoS Jack Ryder.

Manly - Like I said before this is pretty much how he usually plays, it's strange how he's so sure that surendar is town though.

@ Manly :

You made your claim, which is good. Finally, yeah good to see you in directions of helping townies but you know - I am still not convinced.

Remember your day 0 posts?

Your ass is mine.
No lynch

& Day 1 posts?

Right this second I'd be inclined to sway toward surendar being a town

Since you have role claimed to be a doctor - what was your thought process in not stepping forward to protect me on the night after you were very sure that I am a townie?

Also, how did Ste convince you as townie that you stepped forward to protect Ste & what didn't I convince you to come forward to protect me even though I was in your books as a 'certain townie'. Can you please justify?

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I am still standing by my lynch unless I am clear on certain things which is going on. Not everyone can be supermans & batmans.

 

[CG123]

Really? Are you sure on what you are saying? Those claims were made after my posts if you have failed to read. I suspected Hedger, & post after mine had Hedger's claim of Superman with his roles. I went after Manly with lynch & post after that had his claim of doctor who was protecting himself.

I know that.......... My point is that twice you have attacked people, and then they have responded to those attacks with solid claims.

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In other words - your posts look to me either from 'Hurry read & just randomly going on townies here' Or, 'Trying to deviate the attention of the town'. If you were so suspectful of Yash or me, you had Yash unlynched when you insisted so much to kill Yash during early part of the day? Or can I just play your tactic - you unlynched yash because you realized him to be mafia & you were his partner?

Tbh they generally are, because I'm working full-time, so I check-in when I can to post something and keep the activity up. E.g. I didn't come on over the weekend and in that time there were like 4 posts.

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Lol, so you think I attacked Yash because I'm his partner and then unlynched him. I'm happy to lynch him off but I unlynched him because no one else was interested.

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How has unlynched him backfired on me? I unlynched him because it didn't gain any traction, and now I'm more suspicious of you.

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unlynching*

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"Since you have role claimed to be a doctor - what was your thought process in not stepping forward to protect me on the night after you were very sure that I am a townie?"

He just said he was included to think that you were town, not very sure. Yesterday (in game terms) I posted that you were giving off town vibes.

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"I am still standing by my lynch unless I am clear on certain things which is going on. Not everyone can be supermans & batmans."

What do you mean by not everyone can be supermans & batmans? Only Hedger has claimed superman and Simon was batman.

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One more similar post from you, you are going to be on my top radar! Seriously! You are in my list but I need to clear other things. Am not going to miss anymore Abhas tactics! Yes!

Make me top of your list if you want, I don't care. What do you want to ask me?

 

[surendar]

Lol, so you think I attacked Yash because I'm his partner and then unlynched him. I'm happy to lynch him off but I unlynched him because no one else was interested.

So, when a townkill happened, you are happy to lynch a unsure character & unlynch because noone was interested - without assessing how bad it will impact the town if another innocent townie goes killed, in particular only 6 more in whole town along with mafia? This is the part(randomness) which is going to backfire you, if you haven't understood what I was trying to say before.

He just said he was included to think that you were town, not very sure. Yesterday (in game terms) I posted that you were giving off town vibes.

I would be happy if Manly answers that, I want to understand his thought process because I know he believed me to be a town but am still not sure how you he went forward to protect ste when we all know that there was nothing offered from Ste to convince strongly that he is a town?

You didn't find anything fishy?

What do you mean by not everyone can be supermans & batmans? Only Hedger has claimed superman and Simon was batman.

That was just a phrase.

I meant with 6 left, not all can be superheros( superman, batman, ironman etc etc ). There has to be a mafia, which we are all desperate to find.

Make me top of your list if you want, I don't care. What do you want to ask me?

No, not at this point but very soon. Like I mentioned, I would need to clear certain things that I have requested Manly. I am not going against him, all I care is not another townkill.

I really needed to know what made Manly to go after Ste to protect when there were stronger evidences of townie from others & when Ste had nothing to offer for being a townie.

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Tbh they generally are, because I'm working full-time, so I check-in when I can to post something and keep the activity up. E.g. I didn't come on over the weekend and in that time there were like 4 posts.

Outside the story :
I would say, take your time. I am also in same situation like you, usually read from phone & reply only in nights when I get time. So definitely no hurries at all unless maD comes with timelines.

 

[surendar]

I know that.......... My point is that twice you have attacked people, and then they have responded to those attacks with solid claims.

So what does it imply or what you want to say based on just that they responded after I suspected them?

Obviously I am explaining my thought process only because you want to know how I came to so & so conclusion. Can I just put the same logic to you? You have attacked me twice & i have responded with my solid answers that you are Mafia because I have answers for my actions?

Couldn't find him.

Hedger, I need a help.

If doctor is trying to protect a Mafia( lets say for example ), does the above response is also a possibility? Or it has to be 'unsucessful' reply? What is your thoughts?

If latter is the case(if unsuccessful is only possibility) - either its 2 mafia game with 1 doctor, 7 townies (Or) one of the roles claims is false.

 

[CG123]

So, when a townkill happened, you are happy to lynch a unsure character & unlynch because noone was interested - without assessing how bad it will impact the town if another innocent townie goes killed, in particular only 6 more in whole town along with mafia? This is the part(randomness) which is going to backfire you, if you haven't understood what I was trying to say before.

How is giving five reasons to lynch someone random? I lynched him because I wanted to put some early pressure on him at the start of the day because numerous things pointed towards him possibly being mafia, and I've unlynched him now because I've got some responses from that initial lynch. That's how you play the game, it's not about assessing what will happen if a townie gets lynched off because four lynches are needed to get rid of someone, not one which is what the count stood at.

You're the one who actually lynched off a townie yesterday and also you had the first lynch on him, so I'm not sure what grounds you have to keep on telling me about backfiring. You did exactly the same thing yesterday, putting the first lynch on a townie.

You didn't find anything fishy?

Well for the last two pages I've been saying Manly knew something that I didn't, so yes... But he did go someway to answering that in his last post. Obviously Ste's inactivness isn't really letting anyone gain anything from his play, which like you allude to could be a possble tactic.

I really needed to know what made Manly to go after Ste to protect when there were stronger evidences of townie from others & when Ste had nothing to offer for being a townie.

I agree I wouldn't of protected him because of how useless he is here, but he could have a night role and they are mates.

So what does it imply or what you want to say based on just that they responded after I suspected them?

Well it tells me more about you, because you're continually attacking people who now look they might be town. You need to take into consideration that from my perspective that's suspicious, no matter what you say. IF you are mafia then you can go through the thread and find reasons to lynch anyone, which is what you could've done.

Obviously I am explaining my thought process only because you want to know how I came to so & so conclusion. Can I just put the same logic to you? You have attacked me twice & i have responded with my solid answers that you are Mafia because I have answers for my actions?

I'm not really sure what you mean here. I posted before you started posting today that I was most suspicious of you and Yash, I haven't just made that up now based on your last few posts.

The only reason you have given that I am mafia is that me and Yash are a team hence my lynching and unlynching of him, but then you have previously defended Yash multiple times, contradicting yourself in the process.

 

[hedger_14]

If doctor is trying to protect a Mafia( lets say for example ), does the above response is also a possibility? Or it has to be 'unsucessful' reply? What is your thoughts

Successful means you completed your role, unsuccessful means you didn't. Couldn't find him just suggests a commuter. I would like ste to confirm though. And if you protected a mafia, I'm pretty sure it would come back as successful.

But pretty much, at this stage, Manly confirms ste as town, they could both be mafia but I'm fairly certain there would be a doc in a game this size and a poisoner as well. Btw, have we settled on it being a one time poison cause it doesn't seem like anybody has hinted to being poisoned.

Also, a mafia commuter could be a possibility? But if that's the case, then there should have been a kill last night. Since there's no other explanation considering nobody else has cc'd roleblocker.

I have no idea where to go right now. My reads have been off this game considering I'm pretty sure one of Suren and Callum are mafia at least, yet I townread them both. Is it worth a mass claim or wait until tomorrow to mass-claim?

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Pretty suspicious of how strongly Surendar seems to be protesting, despite the fact there hasn't been much accusation aimed towards him. It looks desperate and maybe the lady doth protest too much.

 

[Varun]

lol where is MaD?

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Last Activity: 7th Dec 2013 02:52 AM

 

[CG123]

I don't really have anything to add to what I've previously posted. Hedger's Superman claim is pretty solid while Manly's doctor claim is pretty solid, hence for me that leaves Suren, Ste, and Yash. Yash's claim is 50-50 for me but you guys are happy to give him until tomorrow, Ste hasn't really tried to help us at all but Manly thinks he towns, while Suren's "reads" appear to have been off all game. Therefore if I was to lynch someone off now it'd be Suren.

 

[MaD]

Sorry I was away but it doesn't look like that mattered.
Discussion seems pretty good atm, so i'll give you guys more time.

Lynch Count

Yash - 1 - CG
Manly - 1 - Suren

Also Ben, do you want to be replaced? I think Varun has been following the game.

 

[thedon5]

I can play if you need someone.

 

[SiriusBlack]

edited

 

[surendar]

You're the one who actually lynched off a townie yesterday and also you had the first lynch on him.

Why do you have to keep repeating it when everyone knows for it as obvious? Are you trying to deviate town's attention with those repetitive statements? This has been discussed already & you did agree to it as well. Your replies seem to be over-reacting at a normal analysis done by a townie.

Previous discussion of the same context :

Based on who lynched Jack off yesterday one of Suren, Manly, or Yashdude is likely to be mafia along with Abhas.

Those lines would have been true if Jack had fought for defense & then 4 of us lynched against the defense for purpose. Main reason of most among us were ambiguity in Jack's role. Though Jack had a claim of 'Hulk', 'giving him for free kill to Mafia', he created a position of trap by himself due to his ambiguous way of roleplay.

Yeah I know he was terrible, I guess I've played a fair few games though so like I posted I had a feeling that he was more likely to be a terrible townie than a mafia.

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Well it tells me more about you, because you're continually attacking people who now look they might be town. You need to take into consideration that from my perspective that's suspicious, no matter what you say. IF you are mafia then you can go through the thread and find reasons to lynch anyone, which is what you could've done.

My role claim is going to make it obvious now CG. Your game should be over if Manly/Yash & Hedgers claims are 100% correct. That is the same reason why I was insisting Manly to reply for my questions but you kept answering for him. Brilliant!

Because, I am a spidey with big mouth & with my powers to watch/jump/spin a extra magical web but with the risk of harming anyone that I chose in day. You are right in regarding kill of Jack with me being more responsible for the kill, because I chose to jump there with success thinking Jack to be one among Mafias & my additional trigger has misfired a townie. Last set of lines on Jack's kill tells it all. Remember the criteria, 5 to kill but 4 managed in end?

Successful means you completed your role, unsuccessful means you didn't. Couldn't find him just suggests a commuter. I would like ste to confirm though. And if you protected a mafia, I'm pretty sure it would come back as successful.

But pretty much, at this stage, Manly confirms ste as town, they could both be mafia but I'm fairly certain there would be a doc in a game this size and a poisoner as well. Btw, have we settled on it being a one time poison cause it doesn't seem like anybody has hinted to being poisoned.

I really hope Manly speaks on his thought process. I am not going to lynch CG, as my FOS still remains on Manly. Even newbies like me, Jack & Yash wouldn't have decided to protect Ste on night as there were no strong townie claims from Ste to convince that he was a townie.

To me, claims of Yash & Hedger looks good but Manly's doesn't sound solid to me atleast. Now the possibilities,

If Yash's/Hedgers' claim are solid :

Option 1 : CG & Ste as Mafia and Manly just mistook Ste as townie. 'Couldn't find' could be due to other actions of Ste.

Option 2 : Manly & Ste as Mafia - very possible from those self protection claims on one night where 2 townies got killed & tried to protect Ste on night where Abhas was only killed & Ste wasn't able to be spotted.

If Yash/Hedger/Manly's claim are solid

Ste would go down as townie. Then it would be a game with 2 Mafia, 1 doc, 7townie. CG & Abhas as the only Mafias.

If Hedger/Manly's claim are solid

This will be really tricky, as CG's first reactions might come true on Yash if it is 2 Mafia game with Yash & Abhas as Mafia. Or, 3 mafias with CG/Abhas and Yash.

Hedger What are your thoughts please? Are you finding anything fishy with Ste & Manly not coming forward? It can be 'not contributing any help' but it can also be 'doing on purpose'? If you were in my shoes, will you choose Manly or CG?

CG - If you are really a townie, which I think still there are strong possibilities, I want you to really do a 'eyes wide opened' analysis of our current state. So going by your assumptions, if Ste & Manly have major night roles and they are mates, do you think that there have higher possibilities of being a mafia to be most active in nights? Day time isn't really a Mafia's time, correct?