Tendulkar Retires from ODIs

As long as he's playing well, I don't see why he should retire.

If the selectors want to blood youngsters for 2015, it's up to them to drop Sachin.

Burden is on them, not on Sachin. While it would be admirable of Sachin to make life easier for the selectors by retiring from ODIs/saying he won't play the 2015 WC, if he doesn't then that's fine. He loves his cricket, he's playing well, he has full right to keep on playing.
 
In a country like India, there is no dearth of cricket icons who can be good brands. Right now, Virat Kohli is emerging as a big brand and probably right now he is even ahead of Tendulkar. And you have Dhoni, Yuvraj Singh, Gambhir, Sehwag, etc who are big brands themselves. Its not like India is living off just one single brand in Tendulkar.
 
He is a selfish money grubbing pig. Should have left ages ago to let the youth come in. He plays for money only, but it figures.

Good riddance, I'll never forget how he lied to cover up Turbanmans racism


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You perfectly said the opposite of what Sachin is :) You are a funny man Mark :thumbs

Coming back on topic, its his choice really. If he still drops his form its selectors duty to DROP him but when to retire is his decision and no tom dick and mark can force or comment or even think of his retirement :p :rolleyes
 
That's why there are selectors to pick the best team possible.

No Indian selector would have the balls to drop Tendulkar. He is too big a name for them to be dropped. However, I can say without any hesitation that Sachin would not have been in the national team as of now, had he been an Australian.

Its not like India is living off just one single brand in Tendulkar.

Precisely why I want him to go. We can win matches without him nowadays.
 
Cricketers like Shane Warne, Langer, Gilcrist, Hayden, Mcgrath were not selfish sorry to say Sachin, they loved their country and sport but they served the country enough and gave opportunities to other players. As a Cricket Fan, I don't buy Sachin's Logic
 
Cricketers like Shane Warne, Langer, Gilcrist, Hayden, Mcgrath were not selfish sorry to say Sachin, they loved their country and sport but they served the country enough and gave opportunities to other players. As a Cricket Fan, I don't buy Sachin's Logic
If they retired while they were still good enough for the team, I don't see how that is serving the country, or how it's unselfish. Are you saying they dumped Australia out of number one, to defeat in a World Cup and two successive Ashes, out of love for their country? I hope it was because they saw they were no longer the best players to select.

I haven't heard anyone arguing that Tendulkar isn't good enough for the team. If he wasn't, there would be an issue - but there isn't, cos he is! That's why he's there, and will continue to be. What could be simpler than that?
 
No Indian selector would have the balls to drop Tendulkar. He is too big a name for them to be dropped. However, I can say without any hesitation that Sachin would not have been in the national team as of now, had he been an Australian.

Precisely why I want him to go. We can win matches without him nowadays.

That doesn't mean Sachin should not be playing (just because his brand is not the only one). In ODI's, yes he could have gone after the WC (I was one of the guys who said it too), but his argument of 'being selfish to retire on a high' sounds valid to me. And he cannot be called selfish just because he wants to continue playing a sport that he loves. Anyone would do it. If you call them selfish for it, everyone in this world would be called that.

Lets leave it to him. As of now, he is not being a burden to the team. If he starts being a burden, its the selector's job to drop him. If they dont do that, its their problem, not Sachin's.
 
However, I can say without any hesitation that Sachin would not have been in the national team as of now, had he been an Australian.

I'm not sure I agree. Ricky Ponting was still in Australia's ODI team up until a month ago, and Sachin's record in the last few years is better than Ricky's.
 
If they retired while they were still good enough for the team, I don't see how that is serving the country, or how it's unselfish. Are you saying they dumped Australia out of number one, to defeat in a World Cup and two successive Ashes, out of love for their country? I hope it was because they saw they were no longer the best players to select.

I haven't heard anyone arguing that Tendulkar isn't good enough for the team. If he wasn't, there would be an issue - but there isn't, cos he is! That's why he's there, and will continue to be. What could be simpler than that?

No one can deny the fact that Gilly, Hayden or even Warne could have played for Australia in 2011 and they would have fired too. The fact is,these cricketers left on a high.

Agreed the Aussies sufferred defeats after their departure, but they managed to build a good team which can now challenge a good team like England for the number 1 Test spot.

Tendulkar is not good enough for the ODI team. You have heard the captain MSd himself say that-with regards to his fielding. Secondly, I don't know if you of you observed, his body simply cant take the toll any longer. He sat out while fielding during each and every match of the Asia Cup.[one game he injued himself]. Finally, he is in the ODI team cause of his stature,not cause of his performances- he has simply walked out to bat, picks and chooses the ODIs he wants and does not bowl/field. What nonsense is this ?

If players the likes of Ganguly and Dravid were given an extended run in ODIs, I have no doubts in saying that they would have done well at a point in their careers.

Lets leave it to him. As of now, he is not being a burden to the team. If he starts being a burden, its the selector's job to drop him. If they dont do that, its their problem, not Sachin's.

He is clearly being a liability on the ODI unit. And the major problem is- he himself does not know when to call it quits.
 
If they retired while they were still good enough for the team, I don't see how that is serving the country, or how it's unselfish. Are you saying they dumped Australia out of number one, to defeat in a World Cup and two successive Ashes, out of love for their country? I hope it was because they saw they were no longer the best players to select.

I haven't heard anyone arguing that Tendulkar isn't good enough for the team. If he wasn't, there would be an issue - but there isn't, cos he is! That's why he's there, and will continue to be. What could be simpler than that?

The Core thing is to getting retired at the right time gracefully plus giving opportunities to the younger lot. I am sure that players which I have mentioned above were in good form when they decided to leave, it wasnt about selfishness of them, It was realizing the right time to go and give chance to others. Take the example of Shane Warne, Though I remember Ponting tried to convince him a lot to come back but he did not and stood on the rule that he has served enough and chance should be given to other talent pool.

Calling the other players selfish in a hidden way is a rude and selfish statement in its own self in my view.

As far Dumping Australia, They did not dump rather due to a fantastic domestic structure there in place, the guys currently playing in that team has proved that they have all the ingredients to be back on top and they will by the looks and performance so far. You will give a chance to player then he will prove to become a legend, having tightly grabbing your seat just for your love won't bring out legend players.

There were problems recently when Tendulkar wasnt performing at all in Australia when all the three guys Manjerker, Gavaskar, Ganguly sat together and were thinking Oh.. BCCI cant drop Tendulkar because of his caliber we should talk to Srikaant who can convince Tendulkar. So that shows that issues were there.

And on the other hand, Australian Cricket Selection Committee had the courage to drop their best batsman Ponting when he wasn't performing.

In Sub-continent we have the culture to keep ourselves tagged with cricket no matter what. Even Inzamam did the same, didnt give chance to players like Asim Kammal just to secure his spot at the twilight of his career.
 
No one can deny the fact that Gilly, Hayden or even Warne could have played for Australia in 2011 and they would have fired too. The fact is,these cricketers left on a high.

This too is simple. If they retired when they were still good enough for the team (not agreeing that they did), they were the ones being selfish!

Agreed the Aussies sufferred defeats after their departure, but they managed to build a good team which can now challenge a good team like England for the number 1 Test spot.

What is that argument worth? Of course Australia have got or are going to get good again.

Tendulkar is not good enough for the ODI team. You have heard the captain MSd himself say that-with regards to his fielding. Secondly, I don't know if you of you observed, his body simply cant take the toll any longer. He sat out while fielding during each and every match of the Asia Cup.[one game he injued himself]. Finally, he is in the ODI team cause of his stature,not cause of his performances- he has simply walked out to bat, picks and chooses the ODIs he wants and does not bowl/field. What nonsense is this ?

Dhoni has a right to his opinion, in fact I believe he has some say over selection, but him saying it doesn't make it so.

I don't like players being allowed to not field if they don't feel like it, but there's no penalty for doing so, so it continues to happen. It's not just Sachin that does it, so let's open that can of worms somewhere else.

If players the likes of Ganguly and Dravid were given an extended run in ODIs, I have no doubts in saying that they would have done well at a point in their careers.

But the real question is: did they retire when they were still good enough to be picked? If they did, then that (if anything) is the selfish decision. I have no problem with players deciding for their own reasons when they retire. The problem I have is with players being called selfish for not doing the selectors' jobs for them.

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The Core thing is to getting retired at the right time gracefully plus giving opportunities to the younger lot.

This is completely wrong. The selectors retire you when there are six bats better than you. There will always be younger players, the question is whether they are better than [him] or not.

Calling the other players selfish in a hidden way is a rude and selfish statement in its own self in my view.

Well this is the pot calling the kettle black. You're fine with Sachin being called selfish unfairly and therefore rudely, but not with this? Anyway my main point is that staying on until the selectors tap you on the shoulder is not selfish.

There were problems recently when Tendulkar wasnt performing at all in Australia when all the three guys Manjerker, Gavaskar, Ganguly sat together and were thinking Oh.. BCCI cant drop Tendulkar because of his caliber we should talk to Srikaant who can convince Tendulkar. So that shows that issues were there.

Sick and pathetic of you to use that obscene version of Manjrekar's name.

This may or may not have happened. I'm not going there. What's your source? Their opinions, unless they're selectors, are not all that relevant anyway.

And on the other hand, Australian Cricket Selection Committee had the courage to drop their best batsman Ponting when he wasn't performing.

In Sub-continent we have the culture to keep ourselves tagged with cricket no matter what. Even Inzamam did the same, didnt give chance to players like Asim Kammal just to secure his spot at the twilight of his career.
Not relevant as Sachin is performing.
 
Tendulkar knows that, "when he gives retirement?".Now his form is good.
 

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