Test Cricket tweak

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 24 2003, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by crick4life@Jun 23 2003, 11:40 PM
You still have batted very well there Jonah, an excellent inning by Vaughan. Another to add to the record books of the century makers we already have.

Yes it was really satisfying to get that century Ravi, coz I felt I had to work for it. Another excellent thing was that when Troughton came in, Vaughan was going great guns, timing well etc. But I couldn't time a thing when Troughton was batting :blink:, which shows just how you have to play a player in. I didn't take too many risks with Vaughan thereafter, thought I'd try to keep one established batsman in, while all the other wickets went down. Great stuff.

I've just received the new files, thanks for those . You've sent both batting and bowling files; are there any notable changes to the batting ones, or should I stick with the ones I used in the above innings?

I know you batted well with the previous ones and looks like you are very happy with them but do use the one I have sent you today, there are some changes as mentioned in the above post. Good Luck

The reason you can bat better for a batsman of high average or a Star Player than a mediocre ones is because of one of the values that has been set in the config, I see you dont mind it.

Make sure you defend lots of balls or leave some of them and only look for singles and not fours when batting with a less experienced batsman. Also with the update, it might frustrate you to bat on a Green/Damp pitch but hang in there for sometime and then look for singles as even 200-220 might really be sufficient to win a game or so I hope :unsure:

 

[jonah]

Thanks for the info Ravi...
I've started playing the Pak run chase with the new files and they've got off to a flyer...111/4 after 15. 3 of the 4 wickets have been bowled (cpu missing straight drive), the other a good looking edged cover drive to slip. Cpu has been really aggressive, even after losing wickets. Did you change the aggressiveness of the cpu with these files Ravi, or is it that it's just on a hard wicket?
Don't think this ones going to go the distance...either the cpu will knock off the 220 in about 35 overs, or I'll take the other 6 wickets...

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 24 2003, 08:59 AM
Thanks for the info Ravi...
I've started playing the Pak run chase with the new files and they've got off to a flyer...111/4 after 15. 3 of the 4 wickets have been bowled (cpu missing straight drive), the other a good looking edged cover drive to slip. Cpu has been really aggressive, even after losing wickets. Did you change the aggressiveness of the cpu with these files Ravi, or is it that it's just on a hard wicket?
Don't think this ones going to go the distance...either the cpu will knock off the 220 in about 35 overs, or I'll take the other 6 wickets...

Only changes to the run chase was to make the CPU chase a lot better than it used to. It has to be to do with the wicket, if you reckon after playing a game or two it is being a bit too aggressive we can do something about it. I think it is a better proposition to take 6 wickets and taste the first win maybe the good old Goughie could do the trick for you.

 

[amber22]

Thanks Ravi , I have recieved the files.I will play the game on dusty pitch.

Ravi , I meant both the CPU and Human bowling have less movement in green pitch as it should be.

I dont want the CPU to be overaggresive either. :

 

[crick4life]

Amber, we will see in the coming days how the new ones perform if it is not to the liking of us then we shall certainly change it. I think by increasing the Seam and Swing we will be inducing loads of wides but we can try that out though.

I started a Knockout tourney and the first game was against India. I started slowly but look at the pacing of inning in the end. Styris and Harris were the mainstay although when Styris had whacked 16-20 runs off only 2-3 overs he got out slogging in the long on. This is good that we cannot keep playing in the air once the batsman settles as well, it has to be mixed with ground shots. I reckon I scored around 80+ runs in the last 12 overs. The tailenders could smack a couple but overall they were found lacking if they were to score one too many runs, they were worth only 10 quick runs. Now onto the run chase, I will for sure know if CPU is a bit too aggressive or is it just the hard pitch as in Jonah's case.

Oh Noooo, Shewag was caught in gully off a no ball from Bond. I bloody hate no balls.

 

[jonah]

Well, it wasn't Goughie who did the trick (although he took 3), but Freddie Flintoff who took a 6 for B) . Pakistan bowled out for 173 after 27 overs.
I'll try the files a few more times Ravi, and see what you and the others think, but the cpu seemed too aggressive early on and lost regular wickets, even thogh the required run rate had dropped to below 3 at one time.
I got 5 bowled (3 missed stright drive, 2 missed backfoot cover dr), 3 lbw (all playing across the line) and 2 edges.
It seems that there's a very fine line between getting the cpu to build an innings at a decent, realistic rate if it bats first, and chasing a total realistically if it bats second. A very hard task to overcome .
As I say, I'll try a few more times on other wickets, and post feedback.
At least I got my first win ...

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 24 2003, 09:51 AM
Well, it wasn't Goughie who did the trick (although he took 3), but Freddie Flintoff who took a 6 for  B) . Pakistan bowled out for 173 after 27 overs.
I'll try the files a few more times Ravi, and see what you and the others think, but the cpu seemed too aggressive early on and lost regular wickets, even thogh the required run rate had dropped to below 3 at one time.
I got 5 bowled (3 missed stright drive, 2 missed backfoot cover dr), 3 lbw (all playing across the line) and 2 edges.
It seems that there's a very fine line between getting the cpu to build an innings at a decent, realistic rate if it bats first, and chasing a total realistically if it bats second. A very hard task to overcome  .
As I say, I'll try a few more times on other wickets, and post feedback.
At least I got my first win ...

Well you might be right there Jonah. India also has got off to a flyer they have now scored 44 runs off 6 overs on a damp wicket. I suppose its a bit too aggressive now, will change the aggressive level to back to what it was. Sorry it didnt pay off well, will send you guys the updated version of Bowling setup files. Meanwhile I think the batting ones are good too but I will send those again as well.

I remember now, I think the fix for Runouts screwed these ones a bit. I will probably preserve a runout a game kind of average. The files have been sent use both the batting as well as bowling files and discard the old ones.

 

[jonah]

No worries Ravi; no need to apologise mate, if these things weren't tried then we wouldn't know if they'd work ...

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 24 2003, 10:15 AM
No worries Ravi; no need to apologise mate, if these things weren't tried then we wouldn't know if they'd work ...

Cheers Jonah, you guys when you post your next scores we can certainly reach a conclusion as to how much aggression is necessary and if there is a way to make CPU chase a target we can try that as well. After this experience I am sure we are that much more wiser now, the values infact will have to fall between the two patches ideally which we can find out by playing few games during this week. Oh yeah congragulations on your first win Jonah, join the party :band: .

 

[jonah]

LOL

 

[jonah]

Next game...
England (me) v Zimbabwe (cpu)..dry wicket, sunny.
England put into bat, got off to a solid start, making 51 before the first wicket went down (Solanki, 11). Vaughan was lbw Price for 23, Troughton came in and made an excellent 63, but the star of the England innings was Tresco, caught on the long off boundary going for his century in style, for 96. Clarke made 11, and a couple of wickets went in the last over, out to slogs. England ended a up a little disappointed on 237 for 7. I was aiming for at least 250, but the Zim bowlers bowled well at the death, especially Marillier.
Definately easier to settle in the batsmen on a dry wicket Ravi...it'll be interesting to see how it compares to a green wicket. Another very enjoyable innings ...
Now to see how the cpu chases...

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 25 2003, 09:03 AM
Next game...
England (me) v Zimbabwe (cpu)..dry wicket, sunny.
England put into bat, got off to a solid start, making 51 before the first wicket went down (Solanki, 11). Vaughan was lbw Price for 23, Troughton came in and made an excellent 63, but the star of the England innings was Tresco, caught on the long off boundary going for his century in style, for 96. Clarke made 11, and a couple of wickets went in the last over, out to slogs. England ended a up a little disappointed on 237 for 7. I was aiming for at least 250, but the Zim bowlers bowled well at the death, especially Marillier.
Definately easier to settle in the batsmen on a dry wicket Ravi...it'll be interesting to see how it compares to a green wicket. Another very enjoyable innings ...
Now to see how the cpu chases...

Good on ya Jonah, you seem to be getting a good hang of batting now. Over the time even when you get used to this patch, I am sure the nature of the patching we have done will not get you to score 400 runs for sure. I guess it will improve by 50-60 runs at the most which will be perfect anywhere between 250-300 on Dry wicket should give you a chance to win. Still if you can win this game it will be perfect as I do not expect Zimbabwe to overhaul 237. Seems like you are batting really well for atleast one batsman in the top order and the middle order also seems to have helped you. Can I ask you this, is this the patch that I sent out to you today or are you playing using the old one. It is very pleasing to know the spinner was the most successfull on the dry wicket, the patch seems to be coming off bloody well. Do keep us updated about your scores and by winning this game you could get on a winning spree. Come on England, bring on the OZs.

I see you scored a six as well, I guess you didnt in your previous game. Which shot fetched you the maximum, let me know.

 

[amber22]

I played the VB series against AUS on a damp wicket

 

[amber22]

Batting stats

 

[amber22]

I think Ravi , the leg side shot with power gives most of sixes at least for me on all pitches