The Ashes (Australia tour of England)

[Villain]

Even when a batsman is wrongfully given out/not out? Kinda defeats the purpose of DRS then which was implemented to weed out wrong decisions.

If all decisions could be overturned why would you've umpires in the game. This is why you use your reviews carefully. Although something more intelligent can or should be implemented given the stage of the game.

 

[CerealKiller]

Which is why I believe umpires should be more willing to refer close LBW calls just like contentious catches with the same system of soft signal.

Then they will start referring everything. Why take a risk by making a decision when there's technology to decide for you? Might as well take all decision making away from on field umpires.

 

[Punk_Sk8r]

Was designed to give teams an insurance policy against shockers, not speculative trys to ones outside leg[DOUBLEPOST=1566756980][/DOUBLEPOST]Picked a great day to take my little one to Whipsnade. Didn’t see a ball.

By a miracle though I finally got decent enough 4G by the Asian Elephants to follow the winning runs on cricinfo ha ha

I was watching until lunch then my stream cut off and some family came over and hogged the living room. So I decided to rot in bed nursing my hangover from last night. Gutted I missed it.

Stokes is truly incredible, he's becoming an all time great if he carries on.

 

[Bevab]

Then they will start referring everything. Why take a risk by making a decision when there's technology to decide for you? Might as well take all decision making away from on field umpires.

I do not believe that this will happen to the extent of referring everything, although we will see a definite increase in the number of lbw calls being referred which is for the better if it eliminates controversies.

A similar argument was made against the introduction of VAR in football, claiming that it would ruin the narrative of a game, the flow of it and take away the power of a referee, but it has been a undoubted success till date with the only controversies from it arising due to referees themselves rather than technology.

Surely you would agree on the fact that something needs to be done, given how many umpiring errors have occurred over the last few months?

 

[LiveLoveABD]

I was watching until lunch then my stream cut off and some family came over and hogged the living room. So I decided to rot in bed nursing my hangover from last night. Gutted I missed it.

Stokes is truly incredible, he's become an all time great if he carries on.

I fixed that for you. He's played a knock similar to the likes of Dhoni in a World Cup final and Laxman in the Kolkata test. He's already a legend!

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Which is why I believe umpires should be more willing to refer close LBW calls just like contentious catches with the same system of soft signal. This ensures that the initial decision of the umpire still holds some power if the final verdict is umpire’s call, while ensuring that the truly abysmal calls do not occur.

The only reason why the Aussies are being mocked now is because they wasted their review out of desperation. What if their review had been used up on a fairly close lbw decision where the ball misses by a few millimetres or a catch where there is no conclusive evidence despite a small spike? This is not the first time I have suggested the above process either. It will lead to much less pressure on umpires and fewer errors in the future.

Coming back to the game, I think England clearly deserved this victory. They were horrendous with the bat in the first innings under conditions that clearly did not favour bowlers massively, but they batted well with proper test batting in their second innings unlike the Aussies who underperformed in both of their innings. Stokes was monumental with both bat and ball, to come back with such fierce spirit after a torrid first innings performance from him shows incredible character. He is one player who should certainly be one of the frontline candidates for the inevitable captaincy role that will become vacant soon.

I mean if Wilson thought it was close he could've given it knowing England had a review and would use it no matter what. Like someone mentioned earlier, I think he got carried away in the moment, which is not the sign of a good umpire. Judging by a lot of his decisions in this series that's not much of a stretch

You don't want bad decisions and that's why teams have reviews. I completely agree, even that might not always mean all errors are rectified but in this case the fault lies with Paine. He either listened to terrible advice or choose to take a chance on something that no one would've thought about reviewing under normal circumstances. Nasser Hussain said they'd lost the plot and that was the perfect example. Same goes for Lyon's fumble. The LBW wouldn't have been an issue if he'd have taken the ball cleanly.

 

[Bevab]

Stokes is truly incredible, he's becoming an all time great if he carries on.

Is he not an all time great already, given his pivotal role in your maiden ODI World Cup victory?[DOUBLEPOST=1566759127][/DOUBLEPOST]@LiveLoveABD beat me to it!

 

[Willoughby63]

I do not believe that this will happen to the extent of referring everything, although we will see a definite increase in the number of lbw calls being referred which is for the better if it eliminates controversies.

A similar argument was made against the introduction of VAR in football, claiming that it would ruin the narrative of a game, the flow of it and take away the power of a referee, but it has been a undoubted success till date with the only controversies from it arising due to referees themselves rather than technology.

Surely you would agree on the fact that something needs to be done, given how many umpiring errors have occurred over the last few months?

The inconsistency of the umpiring decisions is a part of the game! Why take away something that can cause a level of excitement and anticipation almost unrivalled in sport? This is why I oppose the introduction of VAR in the PL

 

[wasteyouryouth]

The inconsistency of the umpiring decisions is a part of the game! Why take away something that can cause a level of excitement and anticipation almost unrivalled in sport? This is why I oppose the introduction of VAR in the PL

I don't think when careers and millions of pounds are on line that human error being an exciting part of the game is a real justification for not trying to eradicate it. Personally, I'd be happy if they just had two reviews each session (like they renew them each set in tennis). The game will not be slowed down anymore than it already is by slow over rates, drinks breaks, glove changes and now concussion tests.

 

[Aislabie]

Picked a great day to take my little one to Whipsnade. Didn’t see a ball.

By a miracle though I finally got decent enough 4G by the Asian Elephants to follow the winning runs on cricinfo ha ha

I love Whipsnade! I was there for a couple of months at A-level time and can honestly say their attention to detail for animal welfare is top class. Even the tiniest and least pleasant creatures, namely the hissing cockroaches, are regularly checked and their enclosures enriched. I know that because it was one of my jobs on week two!

 

[Yorkshireman]

I love test cricket so much. I really hope it doesn’t die out on us.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

I love test cricket so much. I really hope it doesn’t die out on us.

I was having that conversation in my head after the game. There's really no other sport like it. Warne, Botham and Gower were saying similar after the match. I don't think any of them said it explicitly, but I was expecting one of them to say: 'if we lost test cricket, we'd lose cricket as we know it.'

 

[Ed Smith]

I was having that conversation in my head after the game. There's really no other sport like it. Warne, Botham and Gower were saying similar after the match. I don't think any of them said it explicitly, but I was expecting one of them to say: 'if we lost test cricket, we'd lose cricket as we know it.'

Really need to get at least one test per summer on free to air TV. Game needs eyes on it to thrive

 

[blockerdave]

I love Whipsnade! I was there for a couple of months at A-level time and can honestly say their attention to detail for animal welfare is top class. Even the tiniest and least pleasant creatures, namely the hissing cockroaches, are regularly checked and their enclosures enriched. I know that because it was one of my jobs on week two!

That must have been awesome.

We had an absolutely great time.

 

[Dutch]

I don't think when careers and millions of pounds are on line that human error being an exciting part of the game is a real justification for not trying to eradicate it.

Except Aussies!