Tupac Dead?

[Punk_Sk8r]

To sum up, Tupac is a legend, because of his work. Only true HipHop fans can know that, (I know this def metel guy who admires only 1 rapper, pac).. 2pac is dead, he did not kill himself. He got shot, as we know he was involved in all sorts of stuff.

There's tons of other legend rappers. Yes his work was good but nothing to get an errection over. Who said he killed himself? The guy's not dead at all.

 

[manee]

No swearing at all please. Try and keep txt speak to a minimum please too.

Culli, I believe the word you are looking for is crapper, named after Thomas Crapper who invented the mechanised toilet.

 

[usy]

Tupac was more then just a rapper, he was also a social activist.

He was going to help young black kids in streets, so they don't get put in wrong stuff.

"it's not about black and white, coz we're humans" one of his songs lyrics, not much we here that in rap now days eh?

He rapped about what he went through in real life when he was little.

 

[TTUgangster]

No swearing at all please. Try and keep txt speak to a minimum please too.

sorry about that....punk sk8r at the end of the day it matters on own opinion. you think he faked his own death fair enuf. it is all cool ok?

 

[Punk_Sk8r]

Tupac was more then just a rapper, he was also a social activist.

He was going to help young black kids in streets, so they don't get put in wrong stuff.

"it's not about black and white, coz we're humans" one of his songs lyrics, not much we here that in rap now days eh?

He rapped about what he went through in real life when he was little.

All rappers rap about what their backgrounds were like nothing new there. Just because they don't have a song about being black or white doesnt mean they think less of other races.

Sure good thing to try help young kids who are influenced by rap but the only problem is many people have tried to help this matter but non of them suceeded or will ever suceed in the slightest.

sorry about that....punk sk8r at the end of the day it matters on own opinion. you think he faked his own death fair enuf. it is all cool ok?

I was cool the whole time, didnt have a problem with a debate but you did. No problem anyway.

 

[usy]

You are just blaming HipHop as a whole,
You ever heard of, Capital D, Outlandish, Lupe Fiasco, Talib Kweli

 

[Punk_Sk8r]

You are just blaming HipHop as a whole,
You ever heard of, Capital D, Outlandish, Lupe Fiasco, Talib Kweli

Yes I have, well I've heard Outlandish and Lupe Fiasco I used to listen to him a lot befor.

Whats that ment to mean anyway? Is it ment to mean all hip-hop isn't the same, of course it isn't but the majority is the majority that influences people.

 

[usy]

then why does HipHop helps me stay away from all the "bad"?? I mean? am i a crazy psychopathic

 

[Punk_Sk8r]

then why does HipHop helps me stay away from all the "bad"?? I mean? am i a crazy psychopathic

Music can't make you usy, you stay away from bad things because you have the sense of whats wrong and whats right, now people who are weak minded look at these videos (it applys to rock music and other music too, just that other types of music don't talk about killing people and capping people up) so yeah people watch these videos of rappers rapping and acting like their killing someone and get influenced by it thinking oh look thats so cool.

I don't listen to a lot of rap anymore and am I into bad stuff? No. I've been into bad stuff when I wasn't listening to much music at all.

 

[Animator!]

Music has a lot of influence on what people do, you cannot deny that whilst it can motivate and influence some to crime etc, that it cannot do the same to driving people away from these things?

Rap/Hip/Hop/Traditionally black music has in fact turned many children in socio-economically deprived areas away from crime and into an industry in which they can become a success. I won't argue with you that some don't deserve it, because some do simply glorify gun crime, homophobia, sexual abuse however you cannot deny anyone freedom of speech.

I won't endorse the views of anyone who is a bigotted, racist or a homophobe but I would not take his right of freedom of speech away, it's one of the small amount of values that keep us on a level in society and that keeps society from ebbing away.

Personally, I think being influenced by music is the same as being influenced by film etc. Those cases in which children are infulenced by films they really shouldn't have been being outside the age catagory set. Jamie Bulger was tragically killed because some children just into their teens saw a film glorifying murder and child abuse. I'm not saying that people shouldn't get influenced by a normal, balanced person won't. It's the one reason these restrains on the industry exist. I realise Children can get their hands on 18 films when they're a lot younger, but I dont see a problem with it mostly. It's proven that only people with mental instability and the very young are influenced by what they see and hear. People who are mental instable is an obvious case, but children so young that they haven't been able to grow into a set of moral of what is right and wrong is another story.

Whilst I'm not a great listener to rap/hip/hop whatever, I don't think there are "Tonnes of Legends" legends is very much an overused word. Very much. Tupac was a legend. He was someone who came from nothing into being a success preaching to people about how to drag themselves away from crime and the poverty line. Tupac actually didn't want to be involved in the whole East Coast/West Coast violence that ensude because of record labels squaring off, he really didn't, but like everyone else around the areas at the time he was dragging into it and he couldn't get away.

Anyway, there is conclusive enough evidence that he is dead. His DNA matches that of the body they found, it looked exactly the same. The body had the same tattoo's etc. It's a closed case, but like most incidents it's only takes one person who heavily doesn't want to believe in their death for one reason or another to be able to spring a story that others will pick upon as blind faith, it's why people believe in religion. A vast majority of people want to be lead by things they don't understand and cannt prove conclusively. Blind faith is a very powerful thing, but Tupac is dead.

 

[tassietiger]

Look up the Paul McCartney is dead rumours. There are so many people that believe he actually died in the 60s that its scary. And they've found a ridiculous amount of evidence from Beatles songs produced after then to say he's dead, most of which were probably planted by the Beatles as a joke.

 

[lancashire666]

Music has a lot of influence on what people do, you cannot deny that whilst it can motivate and influence some to crime etc, that it cannot do the same to driving people away from these things?

Rap/Hip/Hop/Traditionally black music has in fact turned many children in socio-economically deprived areas away from crime and into an industry in which they can become a success. I won't argue with you that some don't deserve it, because some do simply glorify gun crime, homophobia, sexual abuse however you cannot deny anyone freedom of speech.

I won't endorse the views of anyone who is a bigotted, racist or a homophobe but I would not take his right of freedom of speech away, it's one of the small amount of values that keep us on a level in society and that keeps society from ebbing away.

Personally, I think being influenced by music is the same as being influenced by film etc. Those cases in which children are infulenced by films they really shouldn't have been being outside the age catagory set. Jamie Bulger was tragically killed because some children just into their teens saw a film glorifying murder and child abuse. I'm not saying that people shouldn't get influenced by a normal, balanced person won't. It's the one reason these restrains on the industry exist. I realise Children can get their hands on 18 films when they're a lot younger, but I dont see a problem with it mostly. It's proven that only people with mental instability and the very young are influenced by what they see and hear. People who are mental instable is an obvious case, but children so young that they haven't been able to grow into a set of moral of what is right and wrong is another story.

Whilst I'm not a great listener to rap/hip/hop whatever, I don't think there are "Tonnes of Legends" legends is very much an overused word. Very much. Tupac was a legend. He was someone who came from nothing into being a success preaching to people about how to drag themselves away from crime and the poverty line. Tupac actually didn't want to be involved in the whole East Coast/West Coast violence that ensude because of record labels squaring off, he really didn't, but like everyone else around the areas at the time he was dragging into it and he couldn't get away.

Anyway, there is conclusive enough evidence that he is dead. His DNA matches that of the body they found, it looked exactly the same. The body had the same tattoo's etc. It's a closed case, but like most incidents it's only takes one person who heavily doesn't want to believe in their death for one reason or another to be able to spring a story that others will pick upon as blind faith, it's why people believe in religion. A vast majority of people want to be lead by things they don't understand and cannt prove conclusively. Blind faith is a very powerful thing, but Tupac is dead.

sorry animator but i couldnt disagree more, music/films/any art form what so ever doesnt make people do what they do, people should take responsibility for there own actions, if the person is young and impresionable then they shouldnt be shown such material, in which case there actions should be blamed on the parents/gardians not any film/music. you did put forward a some very well put points insted of just shouting views by the way like most people do so i respect that, i just disagree lol

 

[Animator!]

I agree with you. I've worded my post very badly, I think, it was like 2 in the morning. But yeah, I just trying to make the point that I dont believe that people who are mentally stable and have built up a set of moral won't be influenced.

 

[usy]

sorry animator but i couldnt disagree more, music/films/any art form what so ever doesnt make people do what they do, people should take responsibility for there own actions, if the person is young and impresionable then they shouldnt be shown such material, in which case there actions should be blamed on the parents/gardians not any film/music. you did put forward a some very well put points insted of just shouting views by the way like most people do so i respect that, i just disagree lol

I agree with this, Like if someone is stupid enough to do all that... what can i say.

 

[TTUgangster]

can i ask who gave me a black reps point saying "idiot"