West Indies in Bangladesh Oct 2011/12

How is Sammy the weak link when he has 46 wickets @ 29.28 with an economy of 2.7 in 16 tests? His career stats are better than all the names mentioned.

As captain he has 19 wickets at 31.47, economy of 2.34

And besides, compare the averages Edwards, Rampaul and Roach in the matches under Sammy compared to their career averages. (Taylor hasn't played under Sammy yet).

Edwards: 19 wickets @ 20 in 3 matches, economy 3.32
Rampaul: 21 wickets @ 22.8 in 5 matches, economy 2.60
Roach: 14 wickets @30.28 in 5 matches, economy 3.09

Clearly he's been bringing the best out of them.
 
How is Sammy the weak link when he has 46 wickets @ 29.28 with an economy of 2.7 in 16 tests? His career stats are better than all the names mentioned.

As captain he has 19 wickets at 31.47, economy of 2.34

And besides, compare the averages Edwards, Rampaul and Roach in the matches under Sammy compared to their career averages. (Taylor hasn't played under Sammy yet).

Edwards: 19 wickets @ 20 in 3 matches, economy 3.32
Rampaul: 21 wickets @ 22.8 in 5 matches, economy 2.60
Roach: 14 wickets @30.28 in 5 matches, economy 3.09

Clearly he's been bringing the best out of them.
I said this same thing a few month back.
that even Sammy had the best avg than all West Indies leading bowlers in test.
but the Question is Sammy is know as an allrounder. yet. his performance with the bats is poor.
His bowling may have a good avg, but he click in one match and next few match he don't click.
Sammy is a good captain just with a few minor errors in fielding setting, he is a capable captain, but he is unbalancing the team. because we would be losing out on a batsman or a bowler.
I still support Sammy no doubt, but if we need to progress in cricket something need to be done.
 
West Indies landed in Bangladesh and the Bangladeshis squad for the warmup one dayers on the 7th and 9th have been named.

Shahriar Nafees, Junaid Siqqique, Ashraful, Alok Kapali, Raqibul Hasan, Naeem Islam, Nasir Hossain, Shuvagoto Hom, Saghir Hossain, Rabiul Islam, Alauddin Babu, Kamrul Islam, Shohag Gazi and Mominul Haque.

Source: Newspaper
 
The practice one-day match today between West Indies and BCB XI has been turned into a 45-overs-a-side affair.

According to a source in the BCB, the visitors requested a 9:30am start due to the distance from their hotel to the match venue, the Fatullah Cricket Stadium. They agreed to shorten the match after realising that the late start wouldn't cover a 50-over game.

Shahriar Nafees will lead the home side that is loaded with nine batsmen, most of whom have a shot at the ODI and Test series this month.

Sunday's warm-up match between the same sides has also been shortened at the visitors' request. Now it is a Twenty20 match which begins at 1:00pm.

I don't get the reason for shortening the first match to 45 overs.:facepalm
 
I can only guess it's either because they can't use floodlights or because it takes so long to get back to the hotel that they're worried about missing dinner :p
 
Tour Match: Bangladesh Cricket Board XI v West Indians at Fatullah, Oct 7, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

Disappointed with the BD XI batting. It seems WI were having some trouble against spin, so I am all down for a 3-man spin attack in Shakib, Shuvo, and Sunny with the likes of Naeem, Mahmudullah, and Kapali supporting them. Don't want Razzak to be in the team.

Bangladesh news: Shane Jurgensen appointed Bangladesh bowling coach | Bangladesh Cricket News | ESPN Cricinfo

Good news this. He should mainly work with Shafiul, Rubel, and Shahadat. He was an excellent bowling coach for New Zealand and I'm hoping he will do better than Ian Pont.
 
Heres an interesting stat: The match is on 11 October 2011, the same day last year we won against New Zealand. In 2009 on Oct 11 we won against Sri Lanka. Lets hope we get the hattrick.:D
 
How is Sammy the weak link when he has 46 wickets @ 29.28 with an economy of 2.7 in 16 tests? His career stats are better than all the names mentioned.

As captain he has 19 wickets at 31.47, economy of 2.34

For test cricket Sammy is not better than option than any of Roach, Taylor, Edwards, Rampaul, when considering the best make-up. So lets not delude ourselves to think otherwise.

If the whole fiasco with Gayle and the WICB & coach Gibson didn't start during that 2010 tour to SRI, Sammy would never be playing ahead of any of those players in the test side. He is simply playing because he is the default skipper and thus is keeping out a better fast-bowler.

Yes you can argue he bowled well vs India and his stats look good blah blah blah. But simple rebuttal to that is if a bowler of his limited ability can manage to take wickets vs IND - imagine what a more aggressive and attacking bowler like Taylor or Roach could have done.



And besides, compare the averages Edwards, Rampaul and Roach in the matches under Sammy compared to their career averages. (Taylor hasn't played under Sammy yet).

Edwards: 19 wickets @ 20 in 3 matches, economy 3.32
Rampaul: 21 wickets @ 22.8 in 5 matches, economy 2.60
Roach: 14 wickets @30.28 in 5 matches, economy 3.09

Clearly he's been bringing the best out of them.

I have seen no evidence that Sammy has been bringing out the best in those three bowlers. AFAIS it is just convenient that their good form has coincided with Sammy's captaincy.

Before the tests vs IND, Edwards had not played internationally since mid 2009. He had barely come back into Windies domestic cricket during the 2010/11 4-day season in January of this year for Barbados.

The windies played him in a hastily arranged practise game before the 1st test vs Pakistan in Guyana, but then they didn't play him the test. Afterwards they didn't select him for any of the ODIs/T20 vs IND before the 1st test vs IND in Jamaica. So basically you had a situation where the WI selection threw him into a test series against the then # 1 team in the world with no international cricket behind him. It didn't backfire because Edwards himself lifted his game - nothing to do with Sammy.

Same thing goes for Rampaul, his game in all formats has just lifted since he took that 5 wicket-haul vs India in the world-cup. If anyone can be credited with Rampaul's rise is his country captain Darren Ganga.

Roach to a degree wasn't bowling as lethal as he did during the windies home season, compared to when he broke Ponting's hand in AUS 09/10 - likely a simple case of 21 year old feeling tired after carrying the bowling attack for 2 years on his own in the absence of Taylor & Edwards. So its a lazy statistical conclusion to deduce that Sammy was bringing out the best him, especially when Sammy was keeping him out of the team during those three (3) tests vs IND.
 
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I don't think Roach has really gone downhill, it's just that there's more to Test cricket than bowling short and fast at out of form batsmen. Consistency was the key for Rampaul and Edwards, because they always had that skill factor.
 
Bangladesh all over WI now. Hopefully they can chase the target down.
 
Not having Gayle is a big setback for WI.
 

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