All-Time ODi XI

[Leicester Fox]

Hayden
Gilchrist (+)
Tendulkar.
Richards
Lara
Bevan
Pollock
Hadlee
Akram
Murali
McGrath

I am tempted to put Sobers in on the basis that he did play 1 ODI though
Kallis, Warne, Donald and Ponting all come close too.

 

[max_dillon2007]

You know De Silva only averaged 34 in ODi's don't you? Only made 11 hundreds from over 300 games, Pietersen's already got 7 in 87 games, and a far superior average. Pietersen's strike rate is also higher. Not sure how you can justify picking De Silva tbh.

Well thats not an fair criteria to compare players. Dont hink my post as a comparision but rather as an example of how your method of comparision of de-silva with k.p is faulty.
if k.p got 7 centuries in 87 matches then according to your method he has to play 522 ODI to get pas t current centuries record of tendulkar. Fact is that a player can have a purple patch and score centuries in that period regardless of any law of avgs. Take example of Sachin, he hit peak in 1998 and score 9 centuries in 30 games. That is a century every 3rd game.


Though i agree with your team selection, but i think your team is way too allrounder heavy. I would have gone with just Freddie as allrounder and Shane warne as spinner. Out of Pollock and Macgrath i would have chosen only one as they are pretty much the same type of bowlers. Wher is Malcom Marshal dude, how can you forgot, atleast include one genuine fast bowlers for chin music.

 

[Dare]

Hayden
Gilchrist (+)
Tendulkar.
Richards
Lara
Bevan
Pollock
Hadlee
Akram
Murali
McGrath

I am tempted to put Sobers in on the basis that he did play 1 ODI though
Kallis, Warne, Donald and Ponting all come close too.

that's a long tail.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Sobers scored a duck and went wicketless, so statistically, you would have been better off with Ajit Agarkar...

Sir Richard Hadlee. Nice choice. Kiwis tend to get ignored. Chris Cairns pops to mind too now...

ZoraxDoom added 1 Minutes and 6 Seconds later...

that's a long tail.

For who? Foxy's lineup bats till nine, and Marshall was a decent bat himself...

 

[Cricketman]

Cairns. How could I forget?

Cairns>>>Flintoff.

 

[Dare]

For who? Foxy's lineup bats till nine, and Marshall was a decent bat himself...

Yea but Pollock at #7 and Hadlee at 8 arent that good of batsman.

Wher is Malcom Marshal dude, how can you forgot, atleast include one genuine fast bowlers for chin music.

How are you going to give someone "chin music" in a ODI.

 

[Leicester Fox]

that's a long tail.

True but I doubt they will be needed and all the way down to number 9 they are respectable batsmen. 5 bowlers would bow lthem out and if we batted first then look at the top order. I guess if I felt the need I could send in Flintoff or Kallis but I just felt that those guys all deserved to get in the side. Hard to leave out some of the others too.

Sobers scored a duck and went wicketless, so statistically, you would have been better off with Ajit Agarkar...

Sir Richard Hadlee. Nice choice. Kiwis tend to get ignored. Chris Cairns pops to mind too now...

Hadlee is a must for me, especially as I had such a long tail.

Statistically yes, ok if this was cricsim Sobers might not be the best choice but I'm sure he fielded well in that game

 

[Dare]

True but I doubt they will be needed and all the way down to number 9 they are respectable batsmen. 5 bowlers would bow lthem out and if we batted first then look at the top order. I guess if I felt the need I could send in Flintoff or Kallis but I just felt that those guys all deserved to get in the side. Hard to leave out some of the others too.

True the top order really cancels out any long tail.

 

[Burnsy1]

1)Mathew Hayden
2)Adam Gilchrist
3)Viv Richards
4)Michael Bevan
5)Michael Clarke
6)Jonty Rhodes
7)Andrew Flintoff
8)Richard Hadlee
9)Wasim Akram
10)Allan Donald
11)Muttiah Muralitharan


So strange choices maybe but I think I have justified reasons.

 

[Cricketman]

You've got Clarke but no Tendulkar?

 

[shravi]

+Adam Gilchrist
Sachin Tendulkar
Sir Vivian Richards
Ricky Ponting
Jacques Kallis
Michael Bevan
Lance Klusner
Muttiah Muralitharan
Waqar Younis
Glenn McGrath
Allan Donald

Reserves: Brian Lara, Shaun Pollock, Wasim Akram

Very good opening pair, a blend of aggressiveness and pure class. Richards comes in at three to wreak havoc. Jacques Kallis is there to steady the ship if needed and Michael Bevan is there to finish an innings off and to get the team out of a tricky situation and not only hit a formidable score but stay there till the end when chasing. Lance Klusner is there to take the game away from the opposition and because his bowling is very, very good. He edges out Freddie and Cairns with his batting. Muttiah, he's been the best ODI spinner. Waqar Younis gets in ahead of Wasim due to his superior strike rate. Glenn McGrath is there to force a mistake from the a batsman; a really nagging bowler. Allan Donald because he is fast and he doesn't comprimise quality in going for pace.

 

[ChefMan21]

My side:

Jayasuriya
Gilchrist
Tendulkar
Richards
Lara
Waugh
Bevan
Akram
Warne
Waqar
McGrath

It's a little short on the bowling side with only 4 fulltime bowlers but it is an all time xi and with that batting lineup they should be able to post a decent score. Besides.... it's all class in that bowling lineup. Captain would be Waugh, Gilchrist keeping. Opening the bowling would be Akram & McGrath. Plenty of decent part time options in Waugh & Jayasuriya & worst case Richards & Tendulkar.

 

[King Pietersen]

a) Played in a different era, when 220 was a good score and not 320
b) Played for what was one of the weakest sides in the world when he started
c) Often rescued the side more. He didn't really 'cash in' on easy opportunities, but always played better under pressure.

I've seen tons of him playing (Courtesy 'Cricket Classics' on Ten Sports), and he's an excellent finisher and great under pressure. Plus, he was pure class as a batsman.

And besides, KP's part time bowling isn't so good!

A) Why's that a good reason for picking him? I thought the premise of a World XI is that they are playing today, so the score of 220 isn't enough, and De Silva would just be slowing the run rate. His record just has nothing on KP.
B) Pietersen plays for England. We're rubbish. Pietersen made his debut in a series we got whitewashed in, and still scored 3 hundreds. That's poor reasoning for picking De Silva.
C) Maybe, but with England, if Pietersen fails, we lose. The stats tell this, Pietersen's average in losses is 38, his average in win's is 73. If Pietersen scores well, we generally win, if he fails, we lose.

Also, this is an All-time XI, meaning that you pick 4 bowlers and an all-rounder who are capable of bowling 10 overs a piece to win a game, you shouldn't need part-time off-spin from your batsmen. Again, awful reasoning for denying someone who's 3rd on the all-time ODI batting averages list. Just seems to me that alot of you are just picking players from the past generations for the sake of it. If a modern player is better than one from the past, then he gets in the side, and Pietersen is a fantastic player, and deserves at least consideration, and is definitely far better than De Silva.

 

[ChefMan21]

I thought about KP in my side. Pure class. I think he is still 5 years from really peaking. Scary thought!

 

[Tugga36]

Adam Gilchrist (wk)
Sachin Tendlukar
Ricky Ponting (c)
Viv Richards
Brian Lara
Michael Bevan
Shaun Pollock
Wasim Akram
Shane Warne
Muttiah Muralitharan
Glenn McGrath


Can't have a one day team without gilly behind the stumps, capable of winning a match with one innings as seen in the 2007 World Cup Final. Good match with tendulkar.

Ponting, very good one day player, good enough captain, two World Cups under his belt as captain.

Sir Viv, obvsiously a very very good batsman, picks himself. Similar story with Lara.

Bevan is a must, great great finisher. Never mind his strike rate, in his era matches had much lower scoring games. 225 was often a winning total back then, so you can't just not include him based on the strike rate. Always calm under pressure, won many games for us.

Pollock, the established all rounder, mainly in for his bowling but can bat as well, consistent bowler.

Wasim, very good one day bowler with his swing and accuracy.

Warne and Murali, both such great spinners that they deserve to be in, both can win games in an instant.

McGrath, great consistent bowler, showed he could do it even at the end of his career in the 2007 Cup, was very good in 2003 and 1999 also.