Ashes Cricket 2013 General Discussion

[Chief]

Ha ha, I agree. I get the yorker thingy. Was just having a query. As you said, MSD does that to a pretty full ball and not an exact toe crusher. Agreed on it being over rated too but, hey it brings some excitement to the game. I loved it when another MS (Mohammad Shahzad) tried it at T20WC.

SHAHZAD! - Best onomatopoeic name in Cricket IMHO. Although, to be fair, his looked more like a lack of control of the bat in the follow-through rather than a deliberate flourish!

Hey - I'm all for excitement: I love it when people do new things (except rolling my eyes realizing that's ANOTHER shot we have to put in the game!)

The fact that people are re-inventing technique all the time and T20 has been great for that: new things keep things exciting, and if it goes wrong in a T20 you can get away with a lot more than you could in tests.

I think the only time I've thought "WOW" about the helicopter was when Dhoni (I think it was facing Anderson?) didn't even look up as he played it, or as it sailed into the rafters of the stadium: THAT's a piece of class right there.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Those cosmetics help the game look polished and developed in-depth. So there obviously not first priority but definitely something that i feel could be in the game.

I know that. It's just that being a cricket fan who hasn't had a new cricket game after AC09, and there being so many cricket game announcements but, none really seeing any light, I feel scared. I really want a cricket game to be released but, one with substance. Something that would really get me excited and make it feel like 'Yes, this is it!'

 

[Biggs]

...Something that would really get me excited and make it feel like 'Yes, this is it!'

...and that feeling, my friend, can be done by trickstar putting pigeon animations on the damn WACA outfield.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Although, to be fair, his looked more like a lack of control of the bat in the follow-through rather than a deliberate flourish!

Did you see the satisfaction on his face? That was a pleasant sight!

Hey - I'm all for excitement: I love it when people do new things (except rolling my eyes realizing that's ANOTHER shot we have to put in the game!)

I think the only time I've thought "WOW" about the helicopter was when Dhoni (I think it was facing Anderson?) didn't even look up as he played it, or as it sailed into the rafters of the stadium: THAT's a piece of class right there.

Aha, class! Yes. On a more serious note, I agree with what Biggs says.

...and that feeling, my friend, can be done by trickstar putting pigeon animations on the damn WACA outfield.

This should definitely be very high on the priority list?

 

[SibiNaayagam]

Not to start a row here but...

For me a true yorker is a ball jammed right into the batsman's feet and is basically unplayable. It pitches right at the bottom of the bat and can't be lofted.

PS: That's not to say it won't be in the game... Just my opinion on it!

So would it be possible for the batsman to adjust his position and hit the shot? i.e. we have had sideways movement but what about the batsman moving into the crease towards the stumps and thereby converting the yorker into a half volley?

 

[Chief]

Did you see the satisfaction on his face? That was a pleasant sight!

I think you're mistaking "satisfaction" for "surprise"...

 

[deepuparayil]

Not to start a row here but...

For me a true yorker is a ball jammed right into the batsman's feet and is basically unplayable. It pitches right at the bottom of the bat and can't be lofted.

I've not seen Dhoni do this: I've seen him advance slightly (which for me turns the ball into a full toss rather than a yorker), and I've seen him dig out a very full ball (but not *quite* a yorker) for six, but for the reasons above I don't count those as *yorkers* persay.

Furthermore, a point on technique: I think the "helicopter shot" is massively over-rated. It's actually a pretty orthadox slog (albeit with an unusually short backlift), but with a showy, florrid and completely unnecessary follow-through...

Come at me bro.

PS: That's not to say it won't be in the game... Just my opinion on it!

But only few bowlers in real cricket is able to produce a yorker like what you mentioned, that too once in 3-4 tries. Most supposed yorker balls actually end up as low full tosses which can easily hit for six or 4.

 

[Chief]

But only few bowlers in real cricket is able to produce a yorker like what you mentioned, that too once in 3-4 tries. Most supposed yorker balls actually end up as low full tosses which can easily hit for six or 4.

Aye: that's my point. Attempting a yorker doesn't make it a yorker. My point is that I've never seen an ACTUAL yorker hit for six. Ever.

 

[venkniralac]

Replies please

 

[deepuparayil]

Aye: that's my point. Attempting a yorker doesn't make it a yorker. My point is that I've never seen an ACTUAL yorker hit for six. Ever.

It's possible for some one like Ross Taylor who can cross bat it with pure timing and power or someone who plays the scoop shot(B.McCullum).

 

[AsadAbrar]

Well isn't MOTM a subject of suspense? If the power to choose the player for nomination was in our hands then it would loose its purpose.
But its just my opinion.

Well, most of the times we already know who will be the MOTM. There is a single performer but sometimes, we have to take choices so...

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"Man of the Match" type stuff, as suggested, can be incredibly hard to implement because the computer (AI) can't 'THINK' like a human, therefore if it's an automatically generated feature it'll go on "Most Wickets" or "Most Runs" and while some might say that makes a game more "polished" I'm of the opinion it's coding that's taking up valuable "play experience" feature space. There's only so many 1's and 0's you can put on a disk... let alone the time-investment.

Remember what Chief has been saying regarding the EXPERIENCE - is a "Man of the Match" gimmick really going to keep you playing a cricket game, does it add to the experience in a truly compelling way?... or is really good ball physics, player animations and fielding AI going to keep you coming back to play? I'd prefer I just used my imagination and "awarded" someone, you know?

Think about what's important, not what would be a cute gimmick.

IMO, Those things you mentioned are important but presentation has a lot of worth for me atleast. Makes the game more realistic and awesome.

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I *really* like the idea of the player being able to influence the MOTM decision somehow. Strong!

Thank you. I hope it's implemented.

Or was that sarcasm?

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So would it be possible for the batsman to adjust his position and hit the shot? i.e. we have had sideways movement but what about the batsman moving into the crease towards the stumps and thereby converting the yorker into a half volley?

A valid point. I really want that in the game.

@Chief
Will that be possible.

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And, what will be the requirements of the game on PC? Will it be a graphic-heavy game like AC09 or a light one like Cricket 07 or Cricket Revolution?

 

[deepuparayil]

Brendon McCullum 116 Not Out vs Australia 2nd T20 2010 HD - YouTube

@Chief If you have time watch the whole video(eg for a special group of batsman in cricket known as 'power hitters' who depend mostly on their timing and power rather than foot work), if u want to see some one hitting six in a yorker ball, see from 7:47 onwards...

 

[Allrounder18]

Hey chief how about giving batsmen a control over the feet movement when approaching for the bowl before playing an actual shot i-e moving towards offstump , advance down the wicket , moving towards leg side , this will really help in countering the swing/seam bowling , suppose bowler has bowled an outswinger and the batsmen just move towards the offstump and plays a cover drive the swing will be counter by feet moving towards offstump.

 

[Biggs]

...if u want to see some one hitting six in a yorker ball, see from 7:47 onwards...

I watched that game, live, and there's not a single "Yorker" that was hit for six. You're imagining things. It's simply not possible and not something that is needed in ANY cricket game.

Guys, stop focusing on little, ridiculous details on the minutia of cricket and focus on the bigger picture regarding actual, meaningful, realistic features for a next-gen cricket game. Not whether or not one specific player in one specific scenario can hit a six or not!!

 

[Lee1981]

Far to many twats on here asking for ridiculous things

No wonder there is hardly ever any new cricket games,