Australia tour of England June-August 2012

[Doodlesweaver]

If Johnson's back in the team wouldn't that screw up the swing ?

I don't think it will make that much difference with 2 balls. Well, hopefully not anyway.

Very disciplined bowling from England. The Aussies are a bit becalmed now.

 

[puddleduck]

Why on earth is Dernbach back in the England team. He's such dross it's ridiculous.

 

[angryangy]

250 up as if by divine intervention. Poor Morgan just got chased by the difficult chances after that relatively easy drop.

 

[Sahil 7]

big wicket there for aussie getting cook early

 

[Aalay]

I expect us to bounce back and take the remaining 4 ODIs after this hit out. Can't remember the last time England won two ODIs in a series against us.

LOL

 

[MUFC1987]

Bopara looked good today. I didn't see too much of Bell's innings, apart from him seemingly pausing towards the end. That's what worries be about Bell, it's one thing putting away the bad balls, but he can't afford to slow down too much in the middle overs, as it puts pressure on Morgan and Co when he gets out.

I didn't realise Watson was so slow bowling wise until this series either. It's essentially medium pace dobbers. Also, when Australia come out with all this 'we have the best pace bowling attack around', the reason that nobody takes that seriously is because Mitchell Johnson still shows up every now and again. I mean fair enough he has pace, but he doesn't even know where it's going to go, shockingly poor at times.

 

[Sedition]

LOL

Still seething from the drubbings handed out by the Aussies and Bengals I see Doesn't look like we're taking this series too seriously, just giving our T20 players some game time before the WC. Typical English weather will roll in, shortened games, and we'll take the series and leave the poms whinging.

 

[sifter132]

Is there a particular reason Smith is in the side? While I'm sure his 8 runs and not bowling were essential to the aussie cause, what has he ever done?

SPD Smith (31 ODIs)

351 runs @ 21.94 (HS 46no, SR 86.24)
22 wkts @ 33.50 (BB 3/33, SR 38.41, ER 5.23)

That's essentially what Andrew Symonds' record looked like before the 2003 World Cup. Symonds had made only 2 small 50s in 50-odd ODIs, one when he was promoted to open vs Zimbabwe. Definitely NOT saying Smith = Symonds, but I'm guessing that's the idea. They think he's one for the future and are willing to use him basically as a specialist fieldsman in the meantime. Watson's presence means that it doesn't matter who plays at #7 as long as they can bat a bit.

Nah. Ideally Johnson plays. I know nobody wants to hear that but it is totally true.

You are right He didn't do particularly well last night, but no one else really did either. If you eliminate Mitch's no-balls then his RPO would have been about 5 - only McKay was better.

Badly needs his lower order batting though, and preferably someone to have the balls to move either he or Lee up to pinch hit when Australia are really struggling. eg. in the 15th over there last night, Forrest gets out - why not send Lee/Johnson out to attack the bowling PP? Not earthshattering if they get out and it might change the game.

Because SOMETHING needs to happen in that middle order to get England's bowlers off their length. Australia was actually LUCKY last night because England speared so much down leg side - that was the only way Australia were scoring for a while. Finn in particular was just hammering on his length and no batsman could really do anything about it. Would love to see someone come down the wicket for a ball or two at him, make him change something. Forrest trying to drop the ball at his feet for a quick single 10 times in a row is NOT working.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

That's essentially what Andrew Symonds' record looked like before the 2003 World Cup. Symonds had made only 2 small 50s in 50-odd ODIs, one when he was promoted to open vs Zimbabwe. Definitely NOT saying Smith = Symonds, but I'm guessing that's the idea. They think he's one for the future and are willing to use him basically as a specialist fieldsman in the meantime. Watson's presence means that it doesn't matter who plays at #7 as long as they can bat a bit.




You are right He didn't do particularly well last night, but no one else really did either. If you eliminate Mitch's no-balls then his RPO would have been about 5 - only McKay was better.

Badly needs his lower order batting though, and preferably someone to have the balls to move either he or Lee up to pinch hit when Australia are really struggling. eg. in the 15th over there last night, Forrest gets out - why not send Lee/Johnson out to attack the bowling PP? Not earthshattering if they get out and it might change the game.

Because SOMETHING needs to happen in that middle order to get England's bowlers off their length. Australia was actually LUCKY last night because England speared so much down leg side - that was the only way Australia were scoring for a while. Finn in particular was just hammering on his length and no batsman could really do anything about it. Would love to see someone come down the wicket for a ball or two at him, make him change something. Forrest trying to drop the ball at his feet for a quick single 10 times in a row is NOT working.

Johnson wasn't that bad after his first two overs but the problem is that he had done the psychological damage already. They were well on the back foot after four overs and that was without Bell and Cook having to make much of an effort.

Watson, Bailey, Forrest and at times Dussey really struggle to rotate the strike so we are up **** creek if they aren't getting the ball to the boundary. Nothing much that can be done about that apart from shoving Johnson up the order to bat at 4 if they insist on playing him again. He'll get out or get the score moving.

It just looks iike a massive gulf in talent between the teams.

 

[Aalay]

Still seething from the drubbings handed out by the Aussies and Bengals I see

I don't even care about the match against Bangladesh because we did beat the other 2 teams which are considered very good at the international level. Aussie was lets just say it was horrifying dream, same one you guys had in 2010 when you toured India and lost both test and ODI as well

 

[6ry4nj]

That's essentially what Andrew Symonds' record looked like before the 2003 World Cup.

Perhaps that's because Symonds was an alcohol-powered early prototype version of Yusuf Pathan...

 

[War]

Definitely Johnson over Christian and that is coming from a Johnson basher!

I dont think in a best AUS ODI XI, Christian and Johnson are essentially battling for one spot.

If god forbin Johnson can get his mojo together, Johnson for me would battle with Cummins/Pattinson/Bollinger/Harris for the second new-ball spot.

Johnson's batting with have to become more solid, since Christian brings far more solidity in that area as a late-order hitter.

 

[angryangy]

The biggest mistake was at the toss; electing to bat in overcast and eventually drizzling weather that cleared at the break. If it had blown over sooner, it might have been a good place to set a target, but as things stood, there wasn't really a single shot that suggested they should have scored more runs. It wasn't threatening, but hitting through the line proved difficult. Runs were chiefly offered through bad bowling. Bailey and Hussey worked hard, while Watson and Lee got very lucky. England could have done even better had their good bowlers bowled more than Dernbach.

 

[puddleduck]

He seems to be written in with thick ink to bowl during all potentially difficult spells and invariably takes no wickets and gets spanked. I just don't see how his numbers keep earning him a spot.

 

[War]

AUS biggest problem is having a ODI batting line-up with Bailey, Forrest type players in in along with Clarke.

Although since the tri-nation series earlier this year they are probably the form batsmen are deserved their chance, but AUS can't build their one-day team with two batsmen like that.

Cameron White is showing good signs of form again and he needs to be recalled after this series or even in this series if AUS lose the third ODI and the current series. Shaun Marsh can't be too far away also.